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# Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

There are 258512 comments on the Webbunny tumblelog story from Jul 18, 2009, titled Atheism requires as much faith as religion?. In it, Webbunny tumblelog reports that:

Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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Since: Jan 08

#233865 Jul 29, 2014
Stilgar Fifrawi wrote:

Then by all means, show us an observed black hole.
Any time.
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http://io9.com/the-video-that-revealed-the-bl...
"Only the mass would really reveal whether it was a black hole or not. Luckily, there is a way to discover mass using Kepler's 3 laws of planetary motion. "
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kepler 's_laws_of_planetary_motion
...and just in case you still have a problem with this information:

Here's the equation: Mp^2 = a^3

Translation: mass times period squared equals distance cubed (actually orbital axis cubed, which is where the "a" comes from).

The upshot: If you want to know how massive the object is at the center of our galaxy, all you need to know are the orbital period of a star revolving around it, as well as the star's distance from the object. Then you can solve for the mass.

Luckily, our infrared telescopes allowed astronomers to observe the orbits of those stars around the mystery object over a long period of time, which is what you see in both those videos. So we were able to figure out A) the stars' orbital periods and B) how far away from the object their orbits are. Which is how we discovered that the object is likely 4.1 million solar masses, and 6.2 light hours in diameter (roughly Uranus' orbit around the Sun). That means this object has crammed the masses of 4.1 million Suns into a space that's as small as Uranus' orbit. Holy freakin' moly. <<<<Only a black hole is capable of doing that.>>>>

http://io9.com/the-video-that-revealed-the-bl...

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number four

Since: May 12

#233866 Jul 29, 2014
Stilgar Fifrawi wrote:
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Then by all means, demonstrate something infinite.
Any time.
..it's mathematical ..Pi ..3.14...

and , "Buck Crist" ..never , answered my post ( how 'bout you ).." .Is God's love unconditional " ..ie..infinite ..?

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#233867 Jul 29, 2014
Stilgar Fifrawi wrote:
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That's Cantor's philosophy - the unending list of countable natural numbers. He disagreed with you, called it "countable infinity". It's hogwash. Every number that's naturally countable is finite. There's no way that numbers can count 1,2,3,4,5,6......infinity. No way.
The only thing that's actual about infinity is the concept of it. Outside the concept, infinity doesn't exist.
This is where you fail entirely in human logic, and there is no recourse.

We can only conceptualize the finite by logic, and infinity cannot exist and....
Can never be counted by logical reasoning.
The saddest part of thus realization, is that you want the infinity to explain your creator, but deny it's possibility. While I deny creationist gobbledygook explaining how such infinity can exist.. If I were successful in demonstration , of your false belief.
You will simply cease to exist.

In this way I instill infinite fear on you, and you will never escape me. For I am the reality.

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#233868 Jul 29, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
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If the universe is infinite, it counted to infinity. In a finite amount of time.
It expanded like this: 1,2,3,....infinity.
Why would you say you can't count to infinity but the universe can expand to infinity?
It's the same thing.
Nothing can count that high, but it doesn't mean it hasn't been done.

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#233869 Jul 29, 2014
Stilgar Fifrawi wrote:
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Maybe global warming er, um, climate change affects black holes.
http://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/20...
Are you saying Jesus has no control over such a thing>?

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#233870 Jul 29, 2014
Stilgar Fifrawi wrote:
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Then by all means, show us an observed black hole.
Any time.
http://science.nasa.gov/media/medialibrary/20...

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#233871 Jul 29, 2014
Stilgar Fifrawi wrote:
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Then by all means, demonstrate something infinite.
Any time.
http://science.nasa.gov/media/medialibrary/20...

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#233872 Jul 29, 2014
Stilgar Fifrawi wrote:
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Haha. Nervous, are you?
Posting the fact that a black hole has never been observed is not "attacking science".
Posting the fact that infinity is only a concept is not "attacking science".
Now you can get back to attacking religion, whenever you're ready.

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Catcher1

Since: Sep 10

#233873 Jul 29, 2014
Eagle 12 wrote:
To: Catcher1
You’ve been a big fan of Europe and your Europe has shot down a civilian airliner. Ukraine is in Europe, right?
The godless Europeans seam to be unconcerned because they get a huge amount of oil & gas from Russia. As we say in Texas,“Russia has Europe by the short hairs.”
The Europeans are just going to let the Russians run amuck because they don’t have the fortitude to make a stand for another European country. Ukraine shall fall as did the civilian aircraft. Russia will become even stronger with its latest annexation. This equates to a stronger Ruble.
What European country will be next on the list? I do not care. Let Russia gobble up all it wants. Taking one country after another. Americans have given our blood and buried our dead in Europe in two world wars. What do we get for our efforts?
Godless Europeans disrespecting our sacrifices by making the claim there’s no god even though thousands of crosses of our dead remain in their country. Let the godless atheist defend Europe or let Russia have it all. Like a house of cards let Europe fall.
I'm sorry, dude.

I white-sheeted you some time ago, so you no longer exist.

My jocular reply to you earlier was clerical error.

Vive La France!! Viva España!!

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Since: May 12

#233874 Jul 29, 2014
Aura Mytha wrote:
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LOL It sure looked like slaughter at the petting zoo, sorta though.
Where he was and how he evaded capture shows we have really no friends in the Mid East or any Islamic countries. But I like that "The Turbanators" hahahah!
Now , I see why "Buck Crick" ..always calls you and idiot ... you are ..

Name , Middle East or Islamic countries ,...and which one are we not allies with ...??

Good Sir , you need to think before you push that ' reply ' button ..

Every Islamic nation on Earth is our ally save 2 ..
number four

Since: May 12

#233875 Jul 29, 2014
hpcaban wrote:
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There is no "space" outside the universe. That is why light cannot propagate beyond the limits of the universe. To speak of the "radius" of the "space" beyond the universe makes absolutely no sense because such "space" does not exist. And, by the way, the observable universe is FINITE!
..the ' observable universe ' is finite ...okay... What , of the unobservable universe ....also ..finite ..?

Since: Dec 10

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#233876 Jul 29, 2014
Stilgar Fifrawi wrote:
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This image...
...is evidence of a wake.
What caused the wake and what it looks like can only be speculated.
Much like supposed black holes.
God famine you are stupid!

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#233877 Jul 29, 2014
number four wrote:
<quoted text>Now , I see why "Buck Crick" ..always calls you and idiot ... you are ..
Name , Middle East or Islamic countries ,...and which one are we not allies with ...??
Good Sir , you need to think before you push that ' reply ' button ..
Every Islamic nation on Earth is our ally save 2 ..
Yo even Buck...isn't that stupid.

Since: Sep 08

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#233878 Jul 29, 2014
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A figure 8 situated on its side.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinity_symbol
It is a closed course of finite length.

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#233879 Jul 29, 2014
Dave Nelson wrote:
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It is a closed course of finite length.

This is indeed difficult to grasp. Actually at the center of a black hole spacetime has infinite curvature and matter is crushed to infinite density under the pull of infinite gravity. At a singularity, space and time cease to exist as we know them. The laws of physics as we know them break down at a singularity, so it's not really possible to envision something with infinite density and zero volume

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#233880 Jul 29, 2014
Aura Mytha wrote:
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This is indeed difficult to grasp. Actually at the center of a black hole spacetime has infinite curvature and matter is crushed to infinite density under the pull of infinite gravity. At a singularity, space and time cease to exist as we know them. The laws of physics as we know them break down at a singularity, so it's not really possible to envision something with infinite density and zero volume
http://simple.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Higgs_fiel...

Tie that and a few dozen other things to your infinite density and gravity in a zero volume, especially considering there was a pre-existing volume filled with that superdense particle.

Go.
Eagle 12
#233881 Jul 29, 2014
Catcher1 wrote:
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I'm sorry, dude.
I white-sheeted you some time ago, so you no longer exist.
My jocular reply to you earlier was clerical error.
Vive La France!! Viva España!!
White sheet?

Like surrender?

Your surrender is accepted my Dear Comanchero as was Santa Anna’s at San Jancinto, April 21, 1836.

Viva TEXAS!

[tipping cowboy hat]

Since: Dec 10

arte et marte

#233882 Jul 29, 2014
Dave Nelson wrote:
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http://simple.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Higgs_fiel...
Tie that and a few dozen other things to your infinite density and gravity in a zero volume, especially considering there was a pre-existing volume filled with that superdense particle.
Go.
Are you trying to sat a Higgs field exists inside a singularity?

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#233883 Jul 29, 2014
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> Are you trying to sat a Higgs field exists inside a singularity?
?
Where is your gravity in a zero volume coming from?

Aura, you are terribly confused in your physics and understanding of volume and singularities.

Since: Dec 10

arte et marte

#233884 Jul 29, 2014
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Where is your gravity in a zero volume coming from?
Aura, you are terribly confused in your physics and understanding of volume and singularities.
Gravity comes from mass not volume, Dave.
Infinite mass = infinite gravity

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