Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent. Full Story

“Why does my ignorance”

Since: Mar 11

justify your deity?

#231918 Jul 6, 2014
number four wrote:
<quoted text>Besides the proliferation of STD's found in the gay community ..
put , them on an island and come back and visit in 60 years , and behold what kind of society they have built for themselves ..
You might find beautiful homes and well manicured lawns , but as for people ..meh...not so much ..
looks , gays aren't like you and I . They have opened book stores " Look , we are just as refined and sophisticated as our hetrosexual brethren ..!! "
but , the ugly truth is those stores don't actually move any books ...pornography ...is their cash cow ..
STDs travel along lines of inequality - those denied jobs, healthcare, freedom. STDs are most prevalent in poor nations, unprotected prostitutes, women without economic control (most 3rd world nations), and so on - and homosexuals. Why? Because of discrimination.

It's cute you call homosexuals the leading issue here - but the reality is that discrimination and social inequality is.

Worldwide, HIV is the leading killer of women aged 20-45.

Here, read. It's almost always women who bear the brunt here - b/c they usually cannot control their own economics, and so have to have sex under men's terms:

http://www.avert.org/std-statistics-worldwide...

“Why does my ignorance”

Since: Mar 11

justify your deity?

#231919 Jul 6, 2014
number four wrote:
<quoted text>Thanks "Hidingfromyou" ...I NEEDED THAT ..!
Ok, one more time, well done!

/hugs

:)

Since: May 12

Las Vegas, NV

#231920 Jul 6, 2014
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>
Okay, you know the laws we make in the world, that are universal and the quest for equal rights for all men and women, the elimination of slavery, and genocide are what give us the universal moral guidelines to live by. This also gives us the right to say, that in the past human rights were violated by many people.
It's pretty sad that Christians , for the love of god....cannot see it.
You seem to be taking Christian values ..and claiming they are " UNIVERSAL " ...good luck with that .

Slavery is alive and well ..I can't believe , that it is the Atheists ..who can not see it ...

You heathens are just upset God did not specifically condemn slavery , and thereby setting the ancient world on fire ... When , we all know the abolitionists came from the pulpit ..

Since: May 12

Las Vegas, NV

#231921 Jul 6, 2014
Hidingfromyou wrote:
<quoted text>
STDs travel along lines of inequality - those denied jobs, healthcare, freedom. STDs are most prevalent in poor nations, unprotected prostitutes, women without economic control (most 3rd world nations), and so on - and homosexuals. Why? Because of discrimination.
It's cute you call homosexuals the leading issue here - but the reality is that discrimination and social inequality is.
Worldwide, HIV is the leading killer of women aged 20-45.
Here, read. It's almost always women who bear the brunt here - b/c they usually cannot control their own economics, and so have to have sex under men's terms:
http://www.avert.org/std-statistics-worldwide...
...It seems ...You are the one flying the flag for discrimination and the oppression of the weak ..

YOU TURD ..!!...If you actually cared about the oppressed , We'd be discussing Malaria ..

“Why does my ignorance”

Since: Mar 11

justify your deity?

#231922 Jul 6, 2014
number four wrote:
<quoted text>You seem to be taking Christian values ..and claiming they are " UNIVERSAL " ...good luck with that .
Slavery is alive and well ..I can't believe , that it is the Atheists ..who can not see it ...
You heathens are just upset God did not specifically condemn slavery , and thereby setting the ancient world on fire ... When , we all know the abolitionists came from the pulpit ..
Atheists can't see that slavery is alive and well?!?

How little you know!

It's alive and well in the chocolate industry!

Worse, it's alive and well in my damn country - and, yes, I'm doing what I can about it.

Are you???

Since: May 12

Las Vegas, NV

#231923 Jul 6, 2014
Hidingfromyou wrote:
<quoted text>
Atheists can't see that slavery is alive and well?!?
How little you know!
It's alive and well in the chocolate industry!
Worse, it's alive and well in my damn country - and, yes, I'm doing what I can about it.
Are you???
...no...

Since: May 12

Las Vegas, NV

#231924 Jul 6, 2014
Hidingfromyou wrote:
<quoted text>
I am not a Christian.
The religion baffles me. It's so illogical, in the extreme.
Au contraire mon frere , you were exposed to Christianity as a child , therefore by your own scale , you are indeed a Christian .

bless your heart .

Since: May 12

Las Vegas, NV

#231925 Jul 6, 2014
Hidingfromyou wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't really follow most of what you wrote above, but would like to take issue with two.
First, I've been in bars where men and women could use the same bathroom - no issues. It was much more convenient for everyone.
Second, heterosexual marriages only contribute more to society if you're thinking "have kids, must pay." Homosexual marriages contribute as much and more in terms of taxes and spending - the wealthiest couples are 1) gay male couples, 2) heterosexual couples, 3) lesbian couples.
Naturally, the gay males have the greatest discretionary spending. The whole point of creating gay/straight households is to add to the economy - so you want to add households wherever you can. Get them working together, spending together.
So , are you advocating to remove gender from all restrooms ...?.....Didn't think so .

Really , do homosexuals keep the pediatricians on the golf courses ..?

What about those horrendous College tuition' s ..books..?

As , for Homosexuals being in a higher tax bracket , that was because married couples were afforded so many tax breaks ......now , that same sex unions get the very same tax breaks , their so called contribution to society has just taken a precipitous nose dive .

“ The Lord of delirious minds.”

Since: Dec 10

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#231926 Jul 6, 2014
number four wrote:
<quoted text>You seem to be taking Christian values ..and claiming they are " UNIVERSAL " ...good luck with that .
Slavery is alive and well ..I can't believe , that it is the Atheists ..who can not see it ...
You heathens are just upset God did not specifically condemn slavery , and thereby setting the ancient world on fire ... When , we all know the abolitionists came from the pulpit ..
Values are universal, the difference is Christians try to hijack them and claim they aren't.
Which is dishonest, and in topix most are dishonest. Intellectually and to themselves.

http://www.un.org/en/documents/udhr/

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

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#231927 Jul 6, 2014
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
2. NOW you admit your were wrong?
3. Incorrect. Science understands ss sexual behavior in most primates. It does not yet know the cause in humans. Makes it impossible to deem it 'normal' scientifically, doesn't it?
6. There were no Indians attracted to the same sex? There were no Indians who thought they were one gender in the body of another? There were no Indians who were sexually attracted to both genders? Really.
Smirk.
Hidingfromyou wrote:
<quoted text>
2. I actually admitted it a while back. Read carefully though - some cultures fully accepted it and some didn't.
3. I honestly don't believe you understand primatology and evolutionary anthropology to make the claims you're making. If you did, you'd be making different claims.
Do you understand the difference between phylogenetic arguments and ontological arguments?
6. Whoa, you've suddenly changed the discussion from one of gender to one of sex. You're trying to Westernize our understanding of Native Americans - that's never going to work. Their gender system did not work like ours. Their very ideas of masculinity and femininity do not mirror ours.
Clearly, there was same sex sexual behavior. Clearly, same sexes married (in some cases). However, we're talking about gender, not sex. I'm going to use the word "two-spirit" here as a catch all for the various words Natives used. Once again:
Men could marry women and two-spirit males
Two-spirit females could marry women
Two-spirit people did not marry each other. I'm not sure why. I'm going to assume a cultural prohibition on same-gender marriage but not same sex marriage. The defining aspect of Native American sexuality is not their sex, but their gender system.
The fact that there is a conflict in understanding of sex and gender between social sciences and natural sciences only proves my point.

Your position is even weaker in that the vast majority of LGBT's experience their orientation as innate.

Since: May 12

Las Vegas, NV

#231928 Jul 6, 2014
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>
Values are universal, the difference is Christians try to hijack them and claim they aren't.
Which is dishonest, and in topix most are dishonest. Intellectually and to themselves.
http://www.un.org/en/documents/udhr/
Look I'm for equality and justice , and all that other gay stuff ..

look , if you are asserting that morality is not subjective ... you're making a case for God .

and a case for rationalism ... I think you deserve a smiley face sticker by your name .

Since: Jul 08

Columbus, OH

#231929 Jul 6, 2014
number four wrote:
<quoted text>Look I'm for equality and justice , and all that other gay stuff ..
look , if you are asserting that morality is not subjective ... you're making a case for God .
and a case for rationalism ... I think you deserve a smiley face sticker by your name .
God is subjective?

Good to know.

“ The Lord of delirious minds.”

Since: Dec 10

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#231930 Jul 6, 2014
number four wrote:
<quoted text>Look I'm for equality and justice , and all that other gay stuff ..
look , if you are asserting that morality is not subjective ... you're making a case for God .
and a case for rationalism ... I think you deserve a smiley face sticker by your name .
No, I am clearly am telling you morality is a subjective collaboration of universal opinions and decisions decided by the human population of Earth. Not some imaginary being you believe they came from.

Since: Jul 08

Columbus, OH

#231931 Jul 6, 2014
Hidingfromyou wrote:
<quoted text>
Hello Chest!
Yeah...Buck. Underwater basket weaving, maybe....
Everything else - a lie.
Good to see you too!
A PhD in UWBW?

Who'd have thunk it?

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

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#231932 Jul 6, 2014
http://www.slate.com/blogs/outward/2014/06/26...

"With infant gender assignment, in a single moment your baby's life is instantly and brutally reduced from such infinite potentials down to one concrete set of expectations and stereotypes, and any behavioral deviation from that will be severely punishedóboth intentionally through bigotry, and unintentionally through ignorance. That doctor (and the power structure behind him) plays a pivotal role in imposing those limits on helpless infants, without their consent, and without your informed consent as a parent. This issue deserves serious consideration by every parent, because no matter what gender identity your child ultimately adopts, infant gender assignment has effects that will last through their whole life."

Because of a sexual birth defect that affects 4% of the population, we want to foolishly attempt to manipulate the remaining 96% who experience congruity between their sex, gender and genitals.

Why? Because a denial that LGBT is a sexual birth defect requires it.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#231933 Jul 6, 2014
Hidingfromyou wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't really follow most of what you wrote above, but would like to take issue with two.
First, I've been in bars where men and women could use the same bathroom - no issues. It was much more convenient for everyone.
Second, heterosexual marriages only contribute more to society if you're thinking "have kids, must pay." Homosexual marriages contribute as much and more in terms of taxes and spending - the wealthiest couples are 1) gay male couples, 2) heterosexual couples, 3) lesbian couples.
Naturally, the gay males have the greatest discretionary spending. The whole point of creating gay/straight households is to add to the economy - so you want to add households wherever you can. Get them working together, spending together.
What a load of crap.

Sexual assault in the military was up 50% last year. Between woman and gays, we have literally screwed our military denying the power of mating behavior.

If you consider money as the most valuable asset of a society, you are correct. However, rational people consider our children and their best interests as the most valuable asset.

“ The Lord of delirious minds.”

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#231934 Jul 6, 2014
Chess Jurist wrote:
<quoted text>
A PhD in UWBW?
Who'd have thunk it?
More like prison bullsyhte artistry, He has a PHD in PBA

Since: Jul 08

Columbus, OH

#231935 Jul 6, 2014
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> More like prison bullsyhte artistry, He has a PHD in PBA
He has a PhD in PBA, too?

I was aware of his PhD in CST, Copper Scroll Theology, but this takes the cake.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#231936 Jul 6, 2014
Hidingfromyou wrote:
<quoted text>
It's not a controversial subject in social science or primatology. Once again, for the slow of mind and slight of education, same sex sexual behavior is a normal behavior in primates and humans.
So you're just making up bs again, demonstrating how little you know about science.
Third request:

Is rape a normal behavior in primates and humans?

Since: May 10

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#231937 Jul 6, 2014
Hidingfromyou wrote:
<quoted text>
1. Because you're switching the topic b/c you're afraid.
2. You're exaggerating my claims here.
Are you capable of honesty? Oh, wait, no nevermind. honesty won't support your argument.
Fourth request:

Is rape a normal behavior among primates and humans?

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