Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent. Full Story

Since: May 12

Las Vegas, NV

#230820 Jun 17, 2014
Aura Mytha wrote:
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You assume the universe required a cause, but understanding the singularity requires you to understand it does not require a temporal dimension to exist.
Quite simply Einstein solved this riddle with general relativity, as space/time was created in the initial expansion of the universe. The singularity does not require time, but the big bang unleashed it. In human terms we require time and it is hard to imagine something that does not require it. But there is a set of conditions where a thing can exist where the arrow of time does not exist. See def no. 5.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/singul...
Yes , time is a dimension one of many , most likely .

And , I do find it unfair that I demand a beginning to the Cosmos ..but , If a Atheist then in turn demands a beginning to God ...I simply state God had no beginning ..

( Thanks for the link , but I gotta start getting ready for work , or the phone will blowup with people demanding their newspapers .)
Thinking

Stockbridge, UK

#230821 Jun 17, 2014
No they weren't, teeth just are.
number four wrote:
<quoted text>..ah , come on ..teeth were made to be expendable .

“I started out with nothing”

Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#230822 Jun 17, 2014
waaasssuuup wrote:
<quoted text>
hi crissy-poo!
do the words "as it was in the days of Noah, so shall it be in the end" sound threatening to you?
if so, don't do the crime if you can't do the time:-)
Hi waaaahtsh|tttt, honey, you want to call names then please be man enough to expect like for like return.

Considering that noah is a myth, the flood did not happen, impossible in at least 12 different ways then nope, certainly not as threatening as the average godbots of little intelligence who used bronze age mythology to justify his violence, abuse and threats.

“I started out with nothing”

Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#230823 Jun 17, 2014
waaasssuuup wrote:
<quoted text>
"In muslim countries sodomy is barred to all "
just out of curiosity, do you take full advantage of this freedom in your country?;-)
I do not have a catholic priest so itís not compulsory

“I started out with nothing”

Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#230824 Jun 17, 2014
waaasssuuup wrote:
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since you think sharia law is a gracious as Christian influenced democray, i will buy you a one way ticket to somalia to watch soccer with a group of hospitable Christians minding their own business:-)
Say what, christian influenced democracy, do not make me laugh. Oh the irony is astounding. Democracy existed 500 years before christianity was even a twinkle in Panteraís eye and there is evidence that democracy existed in several areas of the world even before ancient Athens in Mesopotamia and parts of India

Democracy under christian influence is not democracy, it is dictatorship.

Of course you are so enamoured with your god dun it wiv magic faith to realise this in exactly the same way as an extremis muslim is.

“I started out with nothing”

Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#230825 Jun 17, 2014
KiMare wrote:
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You point blank lie.
The last sodomy laws were struck down by the Supreme Court in 2003.
Any state laws prohibiting atheists from public office are illegal.
Even more atrocious is throwing women under the bus as if they don't qualify for human rights!
http://www.hrw.org/world-report/2013/country-...
There we have it folks, the typical moral ethics of a 'rational atheist' oxymoron upheld by Queen Blondie!!
Smirk smile.
I went by what is documented and factual not by what you say
ď12 states still ban sodomy a decade after court rulingĒ

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/201...

ďWhere Atheists Canít Hold OfficeĒ

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/...

So laws may have been changed by the supreme court but the US constitution gives individual states the right to ignore government mandate

So I guess you owe me an apology, oops, canít be done, you are a christian and you never apologise when you fook up.

Ahh you mean like http://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/20121227/sunn... when a woman threw a guy under a train because he looked muslim?

Even more atrocious is two christians attempting to throw my (at the time 3 year old twins) under a moving bus then running to hide in a church where the vicar who was standing on the steps as they ran past him denied all knowledge of them

Donít come crying to me with the good will of christianity, I know for a fact that itís all bollocks.

“I started out with nothing”

Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#230826 Jun 17, 2014
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
Oppression, I can honestly say I have never had a muslim verbally abuse and threaten me for being a Christian. I have never had a muslim attempt to kill my children, I have never had a muslim explode a bomb while I have been near by. I have never had a muslim spit on me because I choose a different lifestyle. I cannot say that same for atheists, including you, though.
Smile.
Plagiarism becomes you even if you have to doctor the words to make yourself feel good in the face of your god.

But truthfully, when has any atheist exploded a bomb near you? When has an atheist attempted to kill your children? When has an atheist ever spat on you?

Never, so this confirms that you are a liar in the name of your god but hey, we already knew that.
EXPERT

Redding, CA

#230827 Jun 17, 2014
ChristineM wrote:
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Say what, christian influenced democracy, do not make me laugh. Oh the irony is astounding. Democracy existed 500 years before christianity was even a twinkle in Panteraís eye and there is evidence that democracy existed in several areas of the world even before ancient Athens in Mesopotamia and parts of India
Democracy under christian influence is not democracy, it is dictatorship.
Of course you are so enamoured with your god dun it wiv magic faith to realise this in exactly the same way as an extremis muslim is.
So you are going with Col. Mustard in the Library with a candlestick, huh?

“I started out with nothing”

Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#230828 Jun 17, 2014
Rosa_Winkel wrote:
<quoted text>
And that is the bottom line in the whole debate. Kudos to you.
Sure is.
But I notice there is at least one christian extremist who shows his disagreement by judging your post span, clueless and nuts. Completely expected I suppose and pretty much vindicates the bottom line

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Since: Nov 10

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#230829 Jun 17, 2014
number four wrote:
<quoted text>...THAT'S BELOW THE BELT ...!!..It's sucks to almighty Heaven , to be a ward of the state ....!!
on the plus side ; sometimes those voices in my head , have really good ideas ...!
Of course voices in your head always have Ďgoodí ideas, it is after all the basis of religion once struck with the bug you cannot help but agree with everything the god voice in your head tells you

“I started out with nothing”

Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#230830 Jun 17, 2014
number four wrote:
<quoted text>..what a silly post ..obviously , you have penis envy ...
Care to explain your reasoning here?

No, you canít... fair enough.

“I started out with nothing”

Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#230831 Jun 17, 2014
number four wrote:
<quoted text>...The material I have access to , actually asserts that millions of abortions are carried out in a single year ..the genocide attributed to God involves a dozen tribes living on a small strip of land on the Mediterranean coast ....It's hard for me to believe that they numbered in the millions .
as , for the laws of a sovereign state ...you , should know better than I . Laws can be unjust ( slavery , woman's suffrage etc.)
look , this debate of who is most moral betwixt you and I ..can easily be settled as adults ..
..Rock..Paper..Scissors ..
Please provide a link to this material. Of course it could be church anti abortion propaganda in which case you will be unwilling to provide a link or it could actually be validated academic material in which case you would be only too happy to provide it.

Yes I have also seen anti abortion propaganda claims of 1.47 million abortions each year in the US. Consider that there are a few over 300 million people, half women thatís 150 million women, around 24 million are under 13 and 75 million are over 40 so not really in child baring age. Around 4 million children are born each year. That leaves, broadly speaking, around 47 million women of child baring age. So you are saying that 3% of all women who donít give birth in a single year in a country where almost 70% of the population are devout christian have abortions? And if pigs could fly the price of bacon would go up...

Pro rata, the genocide attributed to god involved 100% of all human beings 100% of all land animals and 100% of all sea animals except a small handful of buddies and around 18 million animals who all fitted on a wooden boat, impossible to make even today, never mind in the bronze age for almost a year.
But good to see you admitting that your god was a genocidal maniac, not many godbots actually have the bottle to admit that.

As to the laws of a sovereign state, whether they are unjust or not they are the laws.

Yes it can easily be settled, prove your belief in magic or admit you making false claims in the name of your god.

“I started out with nothing”

Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#230832 Jun 17, 2014
EXPERT wrote:
<quoted text>
So you are going with Col. Mustard in the Library with a candlestick, huh?
Ha ha, so funny and completely typical of the nothing people like you have in defence of facts. In your deliberate ignorance you cannot put forward a rationally counter so you make fun as though it will earn you extra god points.

“let's do this thang!”

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#230833 Jun 17, 2014
Rosa_Winkel wrote:
<quoted text>
Self-righteous in your own lunchbox, Pharisee.
au contraire, my love! self righteousness is just that; a custom stylized sense of 'right' based on one's own prerogative.

the only other form of righteousness (the true & just one) is the gift of righteousness which comes trhough faith in Christ, the Righteousness of God Incarnate!:-)

“let's do this thang!”

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#230834 Jun 17, 2014
ChristineM wrote:
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Hi waaaahtsh|tttt, honey, you want to call names then please be man enough to expect like for like return.
Considering that noah is a myth, the flood did not happen, impossible in at least 12 different ways then nope, certainly not as threatening as the average godbots of little intelligence who used bronze age mythology to justify his violence, abuse and threats.
lol! i can take whatever you call me, but i LOVE it when you call me "honey" honey!:-)

the flood did happen, but in order to understand how it could, one must also understand that the earth, sea and sky/ozone was different prior to the flood then it is now.

however, you may remain ignorant if you so please, but don't come knocking on my 'ark' when the wrath of God falls again;-)

“let's do this thang!”

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#230835 Jun 17, 2014
ChristineM wrote:
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I do not have a catholic priest so itís not compulsory
LOL!

if you found the right person, do you think you could enjoy it consensually?;-)

“let's do this thang!”

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#230836 Jun 17, 2014
ChristineM wrote:
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Say what, christian influenced democracy, do not make me laugh. Oh the irony is astounding. Democracy existed 500 years before christianity was even a twinkle in Panteraís eye and there is evidence that democracy existed in several areas of the world even before ancient Athens in Mesopotamia and parts of India
Democracy under christian influence is not democracy, it is dictatorship.
Of course you are so enamoured with your god dun it wiv magic faith to realise this in exactly the same way as an extremis muslim is.
hon buns, i'm a Christian and i favor democracy much more than the current 'liberal' socialist party in my country does! this fascist dictator we have is superceeding congress and is applying executive order to establish more control on a daily basis over here.

if there is another winston churchill-type over there across the pond, PLEASE SEND HELP!!!

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#230837 Jun 17, 2014
Thinking wrote:
I believe teeth that don't heal themselves are an example of Unintelligent Design.
<quoted text>
Teeth do heal themselves in a number of ways.

But please continue in your quest to be right about something.

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#230838 Jun 17, 2014
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>
You assume the universe required a cause, but understanding the singularity requires you to understand it does not require a temporal dimension to exist.
Quite simply Einstein solved this riddle with general relativity, as space/time was created in the initial expansion of the universe. The singularity does not require time, but the big bang unleashed it. In human terms we require time and it is hard to imagine something that does not require it. But there is a set of conditions where a thing can exist where the arrow of time does not exist. See def no. 5.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/singul...
The universe requires causality regardless of the presence or absence of time.

You are tap dancing around the problem with bull shit.

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#230839 Jun 17, 2014
ChristineM wrote:
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In Muslim countries that adhere to Sharia law atheism is banned, so is christianity. Your point was what?
In muslim countries sodomy is barred to all (thatís ALL), not just a specific subset of hounded individuals.
Oppression, I can honestly say I have never had a muslim verbally abuse and threaten me for being atheist. I have never had a muslim attempt to kill my children, I have never had a muslim explode a bomb while I have been near by. I have never had a muslim spit on me because I choose a different lifestyle. I cannot say that same for christians though
Nope, christian countries do not instil freedom, they impose their own rules just as Islamic countries do, it just so happens that they are the rules you want, just as they are in Islamic countries.
And freedom under you command is not freedom, it really does not matter what country you are in or what religions you choose to follow.
I have never been mauled by a grizzly bear.

Are you saying grizzly bears are not dangerous?

Are you saying it is not prudent to avoid them when they're pissed off?

Thanks, Drizzled Buns. More sound logic from the Looney Atheist Channel.

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