Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent. Full Story

“too hard to handle”

Since: Jun 11

butler, pa

#229784 May 24, 2014
Just saying;

My son is in the military. If he came home in a casket and Westbrook baptist somehow was there protesting, there would be Soooooo many lawsuits. The things they do are so despicable.

“Michin yeoja”

Since: Oct 10

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#229785 May 24, 2014
superwilly wrote:
Just saying;
My son is in the military. If he came home in a casket and Westbrook baptist somehow was there protesting, there would be Soooooo many lawsuits. The things they do are so despicable.
http://westbrookbaptistchurch.org/

I don't think they protest soldiers.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

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#229786 May 25, 2014
The 2010 Silver Spring, Maryland Discovery Channel
shooter (James Jae Lee) a registered Democrat, eco-terrorist / eugenicist, and wrote against George Bush (chose suicide by police).
The 2011 Tucson, Arizona shooter (Jared Lee Loughner) is a registered Democrat and wrote extensively against George Bush (currently serving seven life sentences).
The 2012 Newtown, Connecticut school shooter (Adam Lanza) hated Christians and was a registered Democrat (committed suicide).
The 2012 Aurora, Colorado Movie Theatre shooter
(James Holmes) was a staff worker on the Obama campaign and took part in Occupy Wall Street. His severe mental illness was well-known and he was being treated with numerous psychotropic drugs. His psychiatrist felt he was a clear danger to society, yet never reported this to law enforcement. He is a progressive leftist and a registered Democrat (serving multiple life sentences and still in the appeals process).
The February 2013 California ex-police officer shooter
(Christopher Dorner) advocated entitlements, had public anger management problems, was major Obama supporter and a registered Democrat (chose suicide by police / police incendiary grenades purposefully used by police to set fire to cabin during gunfight – confirmed by radio communications recordings).
The February 2013 California shotgun-spree shooter
(Ali Syed) was a radicalized-Muslim, and produced left-leaning political viewpoints on his face book postings (committed suicide).
The April 2013 suspected Mississippi ricin poison letter
mailer (Paul Kevin Curtis) a registered Democrat and an Obama supporter (suicidal tendencies / person of interest / primary suspect).
The April 2013 Boston Marathon Bomber (Dzhorak Tsarnaev) is an Occupy Wall Street and social justice advocate, a registered Democrat, and openly supported Obama for President in the 2012 election (repeated gunfights with police, wounded three times, recently captured, awaiting trial).
The September 16, 2013 Washington Naval Yard
(NAVSEA HQ bldg 197) mass killer of 12 civilians (Aaron Alexis) was a former Navy Aviation Electrician's Mate 3rd Class, cited 8 times by the Navy between 2007-2011 for misconduct yet given an honorable discharge, claimed he left the Navy because he was “not liked by others and was 'disrespected'”, was arrested in 2004 for shooting out the tires of a car in Seattle because he was being “disrespected”, was arrested in 2010 for shooting through the ceiling of his apartment into the apartment of a noisy neighbor with whom he had regular disagreements, was being treated for serious mental illness by the VA for paranoia and “hearing voices”, was currently being treated with psychotropic drugs for PTSD and “nightmares” developed from his rescue experiences during the 9/11/2001 World Trade Center attack in New York, was known by his father and relatives as having severe “anger management problems”, was an avid fan of “shooting” video games, was recently given “secret” clearance and given employment as an IT contractor with SharePoint Technologies at the Washington Navy Yard, was remotely attending Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University towards a BS degree, was given a Concealed Carry Weapon permit in Texas, was a registered Democrat who last voted in 2000 and openly supported Obama for President in both the 2008 and 2012 elections, spent most of his free time in a Buddhist Temple and promoted “social justice” on his LinkedIn web page. Smuggled a shotgun into the facility , then shot and stole two pistols from security guards inside the Navy Yard to continue shooting his fellow employees from a 4th floor balcony overlooking the cafeteria (chose suicide by police with no obvious plan or design made for his personal escape). He did not have an AK-15 as has been erroneously reported by the rabid anti gun lobby….

“The..”

Since: Dec 12

"..who whating how with huh?"

#229787 May 25, 2014
The latest on christian "love".

<quoted text snipped>
(RNS) Two pastors have left a Reformed evangelical group after a pastor from the Maryland megachurch they oversaw confessed to covering up sex abuse claims, the latest chapter in a public struggle over evangelicals coming to terms with abuse within their ranks.

Pastors Joshua Harris and C.J. Mahaney left the leadership council of The Gospel Coalition, a central hub for the Reformed evangelical movement, after a trial involving child abuse at Covenant Life Church in Gaithersburg, Md., which both men have overseen.

A criminal trial that concluded last week raised questions about what pastors at Covenant Life knew about the abuse and why steps weren’t taken to stop it.

Nathaniel Morales, 56, was convicted Thursday (May 15) of sexually abusing three underage boys between 1983 and 1991 when he was a youth leader at Covenant Life.

During testimony, former Covenant Life pastor Grant Layman suggested that he withheld information from the police about the abuse allegations against Morales.

“Did you have an obligation to report the alleged abuse?” public defender Alan Drew, who represented Morales, asked during cross-examination.“I believe so,” Layman said.“And you didn’t,” Drew responded.“No,” Layman said.
<quoted text snipped>
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/5353776...

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#229788 May 25, 2014
Divinity Surgeon wrote:
The latest on christian "love".
<quoted text snipped>
(RNS) Two pastors have left a Reformed evangelical group after a pastor from the Maryland megachurch they oversaw confessed to covering up sex abuse claims, the latest chapter in a public struggle over evangelicals coming to terms with abuse within their ranks.
Pastors Joshua Harris and C.J. Mahaney left the leadership council of The Gospel Coalition, a central hub for the Reformed evangelical movement, after a trial involving child abuse at Covenant Life Church in Gaithersburg, Md., which both men have overseen.
A criminal trial that concluded last week raised questions about what pastors at Covenant Life knew about the abuse and why steps weren’t taken to stop it.
Nathaniel Morales, 56, was convicted Thursday (May 15) of sexually abusing three underage boys between 1983 and 1991 when he was a youth leader at Covenant Life.
During testimony, former Covenant Life pastor Grant Layman suggested that he withheld information from the police about the abuse allegations against Morales.
“Did you have an obligation to report the alleged abuse?” public defender Alan Drew, who represented Morales, asked during cross-examination.“I believe so,” Layman said.“And you didn’t,” Drew responded.“No,” Layman said.
<quoted text snipped>
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/5353776...
Hardly 'Christian', more like gay pedophiles covering for each other.

“Blue Collar Philosopher”

Since: Nov 08

Texas, USA

#229789 May 25, 2014
KiMare wrote:
The 2010 Silver Spring, Maryland Discovery Channel
shooter (James Jae Lee) a registered Democrat, eco-terrorist / eugenicist, and wrote against George Bush (chose suicide by police).
The 2011 Tucson, Arizona shooter (Jared Lee Loughner) is a registered Democrat and wrote extensively against George Bush (currently serving seven life sentences).
The 2012 Newtown, Connecticut school shooter (Adam Lanza) hated Christians and was a registered Democrat (committed suicide).
The 2012 Aurora, Colorado Movie Theatre shooter
(James Holmes) was a staff worker on the Obama campaign and took part in Occupy Wall Street. His severe mental illness was well-known and he was being treated with numerous psychotropic drugs. His psychiatrist felt he was a clear danger to society, yet never reported this to law enforcement. He is a progressive leftist and a registered Democrat (serving multiple life sentences and still in the appeals process).
The February 2013 California ex-police officer shooter
(Christopher Dorner) advocated entitlements, had public anger management problems, was major Obama supporter and a registered Democrat (chose suicide by police / police incendiary grenades purposefully used by police to set fire to cabin during gunfight – confirmed by radio communications recordings).
The February 2013 California shotgun-spree shooter
(Ali Syed) was a radicalized-Muslim, and produced left-leaning political viewpoints on his face book postings (committed suicide).
The April 2013 suspected Mississippi ricin poison letter
mailer (Paul Kevin Curtis) a registered Democrat and an Obama supporter (suicidal tendencies / person of interest / primary suspect).
The April 2013 Boston Marathon Bomber (Dzhorak Tsarnaev) is an Occupy Wall Street and social justice advocate, a registered Democrat, and openly supported Obama for President in the 2012 election (repeated gunfights with police, wounded three times, recently captured, awaiting trial).
The September 16, 2013 Washington Naval Yard
(NAVSEA HQ bldg 197) mass killer of 12 civilians (Aaron Alexis) was a former Navy Aviation Electrician's Mate 3rd Class, cited 8 times by the Navy between 2007-2011 for misconduct yet given an honorable discharge, claimed he left the Navy because he was “not liked by others and was 'disrespected'”, was arrested in 2004 for shooting out the tires of a car in Seattle because he was being “disrespected”, was arrested in 2010 for shooting through the ceiling of his apartment into the apartment of a noisy neighbor with whom he had regular disagreements, was being treated for serious mental illness by the VA for paranoia and “hearing voices”, was currently being treated with psychotropic drugs for PTSD and “nightmares” developed from his rescue experiences during the 9/11/2001 World Trade Center attack in New York, was known by his father and relatives as having severe “anger management problems”, was an avid fan of “shooting” video games, was recently given “secret” clearance and given employment as an IT contractor with SharePoint Technologies at the Washington Navy Yard, was remotely attending Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University towards a BS degree, was given a Concealed Carry Weapon permit in Texas, was a registered Democrat who last voted in 2000 and openly supported Obama for President in both the 2008 and 2012 elections, spent most of his free time in a Buddhist Temple and promoted “social justice” on his LinkedIn web page. Smuggled a shotgun into the facility , then shot and stole two pistols from security guards inside the Navy Yard to continue shooting his fellow employees from a 4th floor balcony overlooking the cafeteria (chose suicide by police with no obvious plan or design made for his personal escape). He did not have an AK-15 as has been erroneously reported by the rabid anti gun lobby….
So what exactly are you trying to say? Is it in the water? The fluoride? The Communists? Aliens? Great 'crazy list'... good job!

“The..”

Since: Dec 12

"..who whating how with huh?"

#229790 May 25, 2014
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>Hardly 'Christian', more like gay pedophiles covering for each other.
Anglican preachers?

Wow.

“ The Lord of delirious minds.”

Since: Dec 10

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#229792 May 25, 2014
Rodny wrote:
It is amusing how these mad atheists are trying to convince anyone that all the bad people are Christian while all the "good" people are atheists.
Better have a good laugh than start a flame war.
I would have to say Rodny,
Bad people are bad people, good people are good people.
Religion, or the lack of it....has absolutely nothing to do with it.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#229793 May 25, 2014
RHill wrote:
<quoted text>
So what exactly are you trying to say? Is it in the water? The fluoride? The Communists? Aliens? Great 'crazy list'... good job!
How interesting.

You got words the article didn't even include, but ignored words that were repeated in every incident.

The only explanations are that you are really, really dumb, or that you are in severe denial.

Snicker smile.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#229794 May 25, 2014
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>
I would have to say Rodny,
Bad people are bad people, good people are good people.
Religion, or the lack of it....has absolutely nothing to do with it.
History hardly affirms your assertion.

People who pursue bettering themselves through their faith recognize their own frailties.

Bad people sometimes use that cover to pursue evil.

One group recognizes human brokenness, the other ignores it.

“ The Lord of delirious minds.”

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#229795 May 25, 2014
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
History hardly affirms your assertion.
People who pursue bettering themselves through their faith recognize their own frailties.
Bad people sometimes use that cover to pursue evil.
One group recognizes human brokenness, the other ignores it.

History as well as reality confirms it. Revisionist history and propaganda tries to cover it up.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#229796 May 25, 2014
superwilly wrote:
<quoted text>Despite what they say, the most charitable thing I can say about Westbrook baptist church and the kkk is that theyare not christian. They fail the first test, which is to treat unbelievers with the utmost respect and love.

As forPalin, Bachmann, Perry, Santorum etc, my faith does not dependent on what comes out of thier mouths but what god says in his word.
They're Christian as long as they call themselves Christian.

Since: May 12

Las Vegas, NV

#229797 May 25, 2014
Divinity Surgeon wrote:
The latest on christian "love".
<quoted text snipped>
(RNS) Two pastors have left a Reformed evangelical group after a pastor from the Maryland megachurch they oversaw confessed to covering up sex abuse claims, the latest chapter in a public struggle over evangelicals coming to terms with abuse within their ranks.
Pastors Joshua Harris and C.J. Mahaney left the leadership council of The Gospel Coalition, a central hub for the Reformed evangelical movement, after a trial involving child abuse at Covenant Life Church in Gaithersburg, Md., which both men have overseen.
A criminal trial that concluded last week raised questions about what pastors at Covenant Life knew about the abuse and why steps weren’t taken to stop it.
Nathaniel Morales, 56, was convicted Thursday (May 15) of sexually abusing three underage boys between 1983 and 1991 when he was a youth leader at Covenant Life.
During testimony, former Covenant Life pastor Grant Layman suggested that he withheld information from the police about the abuse allegations against Morales.
“Did you have an obligation to report the alleged abuse?” public defender Alan Drew, who represented Morales, asked during cross-examination.“I believe so,” Layman said.“And you didn’t,” Drew responded.“No,” Layman said.
<quoted text snipped>
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/5353776...
...this ..is a boon ,

I'm roman catholic ..If , we have shown you .........."ANYTHING" ....?

.do not trust ...anybody ..with your children ...( triple exclamation point )

Since: May 12

Las Vegas, NV

#229798 May 25, 2014
Aerobatty wrote:
<quoted text>
They're Christian as long as they call themselves Christian.
..not , at judgment ...LOL.

Since: May 12

Las Vegas, NV

#229799 May 25, 2014
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>
History as well as reality confirms it. Revisionist history and propaganda tries to cover it up.
..well , revisionist , AND propaganda ..history .

Claims , the Crusades and Inquisition ..actually occurred ..

We're , pretty honest with our flaws ...

“The..”

Since: Dec 12

"..who whating how with huh?"

#229800 May 25, 2014
number four wrote:
<quoted text>...this ..is a boon ,

I'm roman catholic ..If , we have shown you .........."ANYTHING" ....?

.do not trust ...anybody ..with your children ...( triple exclamation point )
I agree.

Since: May 12

Las Vegas, NV

#229801 May 25, 2014
Aerobatty wrote:
<quoted text>
Really?
Have you ever heard of Westboro baptist church? I'm pretty sure they're Christian.
And I doubt that there are very many KKK members who would dare to claim any religion other than Christianity. In fact, I'll bet claiming you were catholic would be harmful to your health.
Ever listen to Michelle bachmann? Sarah Palin? Rick perry?
.....Yes..you are correct ..KKK...are good people ..

I hope ..they burn in Hell .,.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#229802 May 26, 2014
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>
History as well as reality confirms it. Revisionist history and propaganda tries to cover it up.
You mean the reality that it is Christian organizations at the forefront of serving needs in your community and around the world?

Smile.

“ The Lord of delirious minds.”

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#229804 May 26, 2014
number four wrote:
<quoted text>..well , revisionist , AND propaganda ..history .
Claims , the Crusades and Inquisition ..actually occurred ..
We're , pretty honest with our flaws ...
But the devil is in the details, It's not so much that the revisions are complete denial, they are revised not omitted, hand flowered, rolled, twisted and sugar coated. Some parts are swept under the rug, I'll give you a huge example.

You didn't hear about Churchill's decision till it was uncovered by historians.

http://video.pbs.org/video/1492157105/

Which asks you a question about the crusades and inquisition , was the history you learned about those two subjects learned from research done by historians, or was the story told by
the leaders in the days of it's event? Another example is the conquest of the Americas, all the things that sound pretty horrible are not really included. But I bet the French version of WW2 is a bit different in light of what Churchill did.

“The Bible is no science book”

Since: Jan 08

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#229805 May 26, 2014
waaasssuuup wrote:
<quoted text>
BTW - i have been known to handle "six" of the opposite 'sex' and satisfy them all simultaneously! so how did you know???
I bet your ever watching God and Jesus, got a thrill out of that. Bet they now have a special place to send you when you die. And you talk to us about morals, and just proved you have none. They will be sending you on the down elevator.

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