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Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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“ad victoriam”

Since: Dec 10

arte et marte

#229819 May 26, 2014
superwilly wrote:
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I'll do you better. I'll remind you not of the atheist terrorists, but of atheists who carried out pograms against christians through thier government because of their positions of power. Vladimir Lenin and Joseph Stalin. They were both very committed atheists. Both murdered christians by the millions.
They the poor and working class fought a revolution and civil war where the church was also the aristocracy and absolute monarchy, this same thing happened in France and England but you don't complain about the little guy killing the abusing rulers who sat fat in their rich lives while the people starved. It was harder for the Russians to win against the aristocracy which had large support in the Russian Orthodox Church with an army led by the monarchy. This is what created them and why the Russians embraced atheism, but make no mistake to gain freedom from the monarchy , the church had to be destroyed. Stalin furthered this goal when after winning the revolution the church regrouped into the "White Party" which sent him in a insane drive to destroy and burn the churches out of fear and the desire to take absolute control.

It would be no different if they had embraced another form of Christianity it would have been an entirely christian war then with you good Christians killing one another for freedom from oppression. As it worked out in thier case they turned away totally from religion having been abused by it so bad. You know America did nearly the same thing in it's revolution against England, which was an absolute monarchy with the crown behind the Church of England.
America choose to give religious freedom of any religion rather than reject religion altogether.
But it could have happened here like in Russia had there not been separation of the sea between the Church of England and the established churches here it may well have.

Anytime you have a two tiered society with the royals and commoners, if the commoners are starving and have nothing, while the royals have plenty. Well you can understand why the Russians did what they did.

Since: Apr 14

San German, Puerto Rico

#229820 May 26, 2014
As an atheist I have only intellectual curiosity as to why believers in deities hold such beliefs in the absence of any evidence or valid arguments to support them. However, believers seem to have very antagonistic feelings, even hatred, for atheists, even though many deny it. Can anyone shed some light on this?

“ad victoriam”

Since: Dec 10

arte et marte

#229821 May 26, 2014
hpcaban wrote:
As an atheist I have only intellectual curiosity as to why believers in deities hold such beliefs in the absence of any evidence or valid arguments to support them. However, believers seem to have very antagonistic feelings, even hatred, for atheists, even though many deny it. Can anyone shed some light on this?

Atheists are the most hated people in the world, because they wont drink the kool aid with them.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#229822 May 26, 2014
hpcaban wrote:
As an atheist I have only intellectual curiosity as to why believers in deities hold such beliefs in the absence of any evidence or valid arguments to support them. However, believers seem to have very antagonistic feelings, even hatred, for atheists, even though many deny it. Can anyone shed some light on this?
Why are you bothering with such a weak belief system then?

“When you treat people as they ”

Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#229824 May 27, 2014
waaasssuuup wrote:
<quoted text>
ignored on the grounds of extremely angry and bigoted
So you ignore the stuff that gets too close to the fact and shows you for what you are?

So I will ask again, why you should you consider me lesbian because I have no intention of letting an ignorant fookwit big mouth and no trousers moron like you into my panties?
waaasssuuup wrote:
<quoted text>
BTW - i have been known to handle "six" of the opposite 'sex' and satisfy them all simultaneously! so how did you know???
Ahh right so not ignored at all, such a liar you are turning out to be

Have you actually asked if you satisfied them? From your personality shown here on topix I would think not, I would however think you dream that you fooked them real good (in your own mind) so they should be satisfied otherwise they must be lesbian?

And of course we only have you word as a god fearing man (LOL) for this feat of sexual gymnastics. and who the hell would believe a machine gun mouth like you?

BTW, Your verbalisations lets you down, you come across as having no idea of what constitutes satisfaction to the opposite sex. Stick your dick in, wiggle it about a bit and voila, there she is satisfied, time to tell the world about it!!!!– you really are a pathetic example of manhood (and I use the word manhood in the loosest possible sense)
waaasssuuup wrote:
<quoted text>
not ignored on the grounds that now i kinda wanna wrestle with you naked;-)
So you are a raving poofter trying to hide your sexuality from your fellow godbots, thanks for telling us.

“The Bible is no science book”

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#229825 May 27, 2014
hpcaban wrote:
As an atheist I have only intellectual curiosity as to why believers in deities hold such beliefs in the absence of any evidence or valid arguments to support them. However, believers seem to have very antagonistic feelings, even hatred, for atheists, even though many deny it. Can anyone shed some light on this?
We break the foundation of a belief they have held since childhood and nobody wishes to be made to look a fool. They will hold on to their beliefs regardless of all mounting scientific evidence that the bible is a book of fairy tales. Imagine you have spend your life believing in something that was supposed to be infallible and truth personified proven wrong. Anger and lashing out is their only defense of their wasted years.

Lets just stick our heads in the sand, and we cant hear you, and you are a liar, is their response. Many many wasted years following a myth and no heaven to look forward to despite their complete adoration and worship.

How would you feel? The poor and ignorant especially, they live a miserable life and nothing to look forward to.

Since: Dec 12

Location hidden

#229826 May 27, 2014
ChristineM wrote:
<quoted text>
So you ignore the stuff that gets too close to the fact and shows you for what you are?
So I will ask again, why you should you consider me lesbian because I have no intention of letting an ignorant fookwit big mouth and no trousers moron like you into my panties?
<quoted text>
Ahh right so not ignored at all, such a liar you are turning out to be
Have you actually asked if you satisfied them? From your personality shown here on topix I would think not, I would however think you dream that you fooked them real good (in your own mind) so they should be satisfied otherwise they must be lesbian?
And of course we only have you word as a god fearing man (LOL) for this feat of sexual gymnastics. and who the hell would believe a machine gun mouth like you?
BTW, Your verbalisations lets you down, you come across as having no idea of what constitutes satisfaction to the opposite sex. Stick your dick in, wiggle it about a bit and voila, there she is satisfied, time to tell the world about it!!!!– you really are a pathetic example of manhood (and I use the word manhood in the loosest possible sense)
<quoted text>
So you are a raving poofter trying to hide your sexuality from your fellow godbots, thanks for telling us.
Because like many here, he idiotically assumes that if a woman is assertive, cares about human rights and rejects his filth ---> she must be a lesbian?

“When you treat people as they ”

Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#229828 May 27, 2014
Rodny wrote:
<quoted text>
So that is why you post on Topix all day, instead of doing work at the office.
And you want to preach about ethics?
Pardon me while I have a good laugh.
You really are clueless and so need to guess to fill the void left by your ignorance, how very christian of you.

I don’t want to preach about anything, that’s your job as a good godbot and it also seems to be your job to vomit hatred about what you are completely incapable of comprehending

BTW, if my employees did not deserve to leave work early on full pay (at my expense) then I can assure you that it would not have happened.

Can I ask, has such a benefit ever been provided for your good work?

You know, I will never appreciate why blithering idiots like you are simply not too embarrassed to post about what you will never understand?
number four

Since: May 12

Las Vegas, NV

#229829 May 27, 2014
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> But the devil is in the details, It's not so much that the revisions are complete denial, they are revised not omitted, hand flowered, rolled, twisted and sugar coated. Some parts are swept under the rug, I'll give you a huge example.
You didn't hear about Churchill's decision till it was uncovered by historians.
http://video.pbs.org/video/1492157105/
Which asks you a question about the crusades and inquisition , was the history you learned about those two subjects learned from research done by historians, or was the story told by
the leaders in the days of it's event? Another example is the conquest of the Americas, all the things that sound pretty horrible are not really included. But I bet the French version of WW2 is a bit different in light of what Churchill did.
...What's wrong with you "Aura Mytha" ..( I still have watch this )..but, how could to take a biased Church of England statesman describing Catholic history ....hmmm..?

I'm curious have you ever heard of The War of Northern Aggression ...it was the bloodiest American war ..fought in 1861.

“When you treat people as they ”

Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#229830 May 27, 2014
Rodny wrote:
<quoted text>
It's no use replying to such grossly ignorant atheists.
I suggest that ChristineM go live in a Muslim country to see what it's like.
She takes her privilege of being free in a Christian country for granted.
Yet you reply, I have only known you a short time but it is becoming more and more obvious just how hypocritical you really are.

Suggest what you want, it will make no difference to reality. Unlike you and your deliberately ignorant guesses I have spent time in Muslim countries so I know what it’s like. And just like the USA there are vast swathes of ignorant godbots like you, however also like the USA, there are areas of decent HUMAN BEINGS.

Privilege? You dumbo, you total fookiwit, what privilege? The privilege of mockery of children with disability? How about injury during a christian bomb attack? Surely you don’t mean the privilege of attempted murder or was it verbal and physical abuse?

Or the privilege of having to endure the stupid and moronic lies and hatred of deliberately ignorant T\/\/ATS like you?

P.S. the UK has a state religion but it is a multicultural country and far from a christian country. Latest census gives around 2.5% of brits as church goers.

Honey, give me honest anything in comparison you ignorant, hateful, lying christians.

“When you treat people as they ”

Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#229831 May 27, 2014
Rosa_Winkel wrote:
<quoted text>
I'll put it on my reading list, when I finish my studies for this semester. Get back to you.
To me, Pantera is a heavy metal band. But you said that he was Jesus' real father, right?
So the documentation goes and that documentation includes the Hebrew holy books from which the OT was selectively cloned.

‘Tiberius Julius Abdes Pantera of Sidon’

“When you treat people as they ”

Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#229832 May 27, 2014
Rosa_Winkel wrote:
<quoted text>
Of course they're not all terrorists!
Islam is not a religion I'm greatly impressed with, but some of the people are OK. Some are really nice and polite. I just don't want to live under Shariah law.
To quote their holy book: "I do not worship what you worship...Nor will I be a worshipper of what you worship."
http://quran.com/109
Hindus are good, like the bloke I used to work with. You can have a good discussion on theology with them - and they don't try to ram it down your neck. Funnily enough they believe in a trinity: Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva.
But so many non Muslims consider (and treat) them as if they were.

Islam is pretty much like christianity, they even worship the same deity. The god stories are similar with amendments that show a few hundred years of progress. But still written over one and a half millennia ago.

Not many muslims want to live under Shariah law either however just like in christianity there are funnymentalists. As far as I know only about 15 of more than 50 Islamic countries apply full sharia law.

Sure the god book will have an influence but it’s personality and hence interpretation of the god books that define how a person reacts to that god book. Examples abound on this very thread. Some good christians (so they claim) rejoice in vomiting hatred to anyone who does not worship as they choose to worship. That very same accusation that they apply to Islam.

I sometimes PM with a Muslim who is currently very upset because he want on a christian thread to try and learn something about christianity and offer his views on Islam to anyone interested enough to correspond. Those good christians ganged up on him (you know what it’s like) vomiting hatred and abuse to reject him from the thread, they just did not want to know, did not even want to listen and did not want to provide their view. Such ignorance is what defines them. I don’t know which thread it was but I would not be in the least surprised if such good, wholesome christians as Rodny were among the mob.

Unlike you and me, he is not inured to the behaviour of good christian folks and has not returned to the thread since.

“When you treat people as they ”

Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#229833 May 27, 2014
Rosa_Winkel wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm beginning to think that Christian morality is an oxymoron. Oh, and Ethics is not a county in England.
:-)
LOL

“When you treat people as they ”

Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#229834 May 27, 2014
superwilly wrote:
<quoted text>
She isn't an american. Also, like a good many of us here she needs therapy.
Speak for yourself, my psychiatrist says I am completely normal

That may be a bit above you but if you do get it feel free to comment – sensibly

“When you treat people as they ”

Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#229835 May 27, 2014
Divinity Surgeon wrote:
<quoted text>
Because like many here, he idiotically assumes that if a woman is assertive, cares about human rights and rejects his filth ---> she must be a lesbian?
Or it could just be that he is a legend in his own mind
uncle joe

Butler, PA

#229837 May 27, 2014
ChristineM wrote:
<quoted text>
Speak for yourself, my psychiatrist says I am completely normal
That may be a bit above you but if you do get it feel free to comment – sensibly
Its good that you are seeing a psychiatrist.

“When you treat people as they ”

Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#229838 May 27, 2014
Rodny wrote:
<quoted text>
I respect you as a person. So I will not use your same offensive language.
But could you please make your posts more legible and tell us exactly what you are talking about, because there is nothing but confusing blabbery in them, mixed with a lot of name calling.
There is absolutely no logic in them.
Your name calling doesn't bother me at all. What bothers me is the confusion that you have in your head. And your unexplained anger iisues.
No you don’t respect me you lying T\/\/AT, If you respected me you would not issue snide and lying comments about me to other posters. And your previous posts have proven that too therefore you are not only a hypocrite but a lying hypocrite.

But here let me help you

“Yet you reply”– easy to understand that you claimed my post were not worth replying to and yet you replied.

It is becoming more and more obvious just how hypocritical you really are.– also easy to understand, the very fact that your hypocritical abuse is increasing on an exponential scale proves that.

Unlike you and your deliberately ignorant guesses I have spent time in Muslim countries – once again so easy to understand. Let me define it more definitely for you - I have been to several muslim countries, It is my contention that you have not and therefore garner all your hatred from supermarket tabloids and similar sensationalist hate press

Ahh I think I have found it -“there are areas of decent HUMAN BEINGS.”, go on, tell me it’s the “human beings” that threw you?

No ones fault but you own that you are so stupid you don’t even know you are stupid. You should know that there is a name for your illness, it’s called the ‘dunning kruger effect’, I suggest you look it up and if it’s not too difficult for you then why not try educating yourself with a little research.

Honey, at the moment you would not know logic if it sat on your face and farted.

And coming to the last paragraph of your post you prove your lies once again, by opting for the unsubstantiated guesswork of the typical godbot who needs whatever ammunition he can get to try casting doubt on his opponent, even if that ammunition is guesswork and lies. Such a typically good christian you are turning out to be.

For your edification, I do not suffer confusion, I have no god to cast doubts in my mind, I know precisely what I am doing even if you have problems with that. And anger issues? Please don’t make me laugh, I come on topix for fun, to have some enjoyment watching prats like you squirm. But if you think that fun means anger then I suggest you see your shrink before you completely loose it.

“When you treat people as they ”

Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#229839 May 27, 2014
uncle joe wrote:
<quoted text>
Its good that you are seeing a psychiatrist.
It seems that the comment was above you too. never mind, I did expect such stupidity for the odd moron, hence the reason I stated “feel free to comment – sensibly”.

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#229840 May 27, 2014
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>
Referring to humans not dogs and farm animals waaasssuuup.
hater! lol

“When you treat people as they ”

Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#229841 May 27, 2014
hpcaban wrote:
As an atheist I have only intellectual curiosity as to why believers in deities hold such beliefs in the absence of any evidence or valid arguments to support them. However, believers seem to have very antagonistic feelings, even hatred, for atheists, even though many deny it. Can anyone shed some light on this?
The religious are indoctrinated from early childhood to accept their religion without question. Because of that indoctrination and the teachings of their god book, which promotes violence and subjugation to any who do not agree with them, certainly the three abrahamic god books, they are unwilling to accept any point that differs from or casts doubt on their belief. They are only to willing, to the extent of verbal/physical abuse and in some cases even murder/genocide to quiet any opposition to their indoctrination.

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