Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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blacklagoon

Jamaica Plain, MA

#226690 Apr 23, 2014
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
The only churches shrinking are the liberal ones that excuse immorality and desecrate marriage.
As to intelligence levels, I've been consistently noting 'rational atheist' oxymorons like you...
Wrong again dipshit, on of these churches was a baptists church, known for their rigid doctrine, the other was a Catholic church. You loose child!!!!

You have no idea what your "noting," It is a proven fact that non-believers have a higher intelligence level that Theists look it up numbnuts!!!

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#226691 Apr 23, 2014
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>Wrong again dipshit, on of these churches was a baptists church, known for their rigid doctrine, the other was a Catholic church. You loose child!!!!
You have no idea what your "noting," It is a proven fact that non-believers have a higher intelligence level that Theists look it up numbnuts!!!
I don't believe you.

I think that is a really intelligent response.

Smile.
blacklagoon

Jamaica Plain, MA

#226692 Apr 23, 2014
Eagle 12 wrote:
<quoted text>
My good Doctor, we are all going to take the last ride across the river Jordan. I would love for you to join those of us who are going onto a much better place but as much as I would love to save you, I can't.
No thanks, you go right ahead and ride across that river, from what I understand about eternity, it's going to end up actually being hell for you. People need challenges, goals, things to achieve, we are conditioned to a beginning and an end, putting someone into an eternal situation which automatically negates challenges, goals, and any kind of achievements will become a hell in the end. Nothing to aspire to, time upon endless time, no beginning and worse, no end. No thanks I'll except my end as a part of life, making way for those behind, content with the accomplishments and the good I have achieved, the small bit of beauty I brought to others, the lasting pieces of me left for those future generations to listen to. I'll accept my end with dignity knowing that this is the reality I live in, and not whine and cry like an infant so afraid of the dark and the end. So afraid that creating a fictitious place to ease your fears becomes necessary. Why are all of you people so insanely afraid of death?

I'll have a vikings funeral, light my sailboat on fire and push me out into my beloved Atlantic Ocean.

Since: Jul 08

Columbus, OH

#226693 Apr 23, 2014
Aquarius-WY wrote:
<quoted text>
So does all flora.
I've never seen a Sinning Cedar, but there are Weeping Willows. I wonder what the willow knows that the cedar does not eh.
It is true of the entire biota.

At least I am aware of no exceptions.

Since: Jul 08

Columbus, OH

#226694 Apr 23, 2014
number four wrote:
<quoted text>..You weren't drunk ..??
"No Shiite" came to your aid , and you attacked him ..?On purpose ?
Just who in the f**k do you think you are ..??..Israel..?..Sparta..?
I do not suffer fools.

That includes you.

It also includes anyone who enters the fray with, "Oooh, Oooh, I know. The fair wage for sex slavery is tiny-dicked Christians who couldn't get laid in a women's prison with a stack of pardons and a Jesus mattress finally getting a woman to submit, because, after all, paths. Booble tells me so. Whoop! "

http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TUGI0DV...

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#226695 Apr 23, 2014
Catcher1 wrote:
I reject the concept of killing Christians.
I don't subscribe to the eye-for-an-eye philosophy.
So if I don't kill you, you won't kill me?

Well what happens if I kill you, will you kill me back?

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#226696 Apr 23, 2014
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>No thanks, you go right ahead and ride across that river, from what I understand about eternity, it's going to end up actually being hell for you. People need challenges, goals, things to achieve, we are conditioned to a beginning and an end, putting someone into an eternal situation which automatically negates challenges, goals, and any kind of achievements will become a hell in the end. Nothing to aspire to, time upon endless time, no beginning and worse, no end. No thanks I'll except my end as a part of life, making way for those behind, content with the accomplishments and the good I have achieved, the small bit of beauty I brought to others, the lasting pieces of me left for those future generations to listen to. I'll accept my end with dignity knowing that this is the reality I live in, and not whine and cry like an infant so afraid of the dark and the end. So afraid that creating a fictitious place to ease your fears becomes necessary. Why are all of you people so insanely afraid of death?
I'll have a vikings funeral, light my sailboat on fire and push me out into my beloved Atlantic Ocean.
Amusing.

You are so silly.

You are so afraid of death you hope and pray it is the real end.

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#226697 Apr 23, 2014
blacklagoon wrote:
Bullshit piled on top of more bullshit never makes it true.
That just makes the atheist taller....

See below.
There is ONLY one kind of evidence
LMMFAO!!!

Since: Jul 08

Columbus, OH

#226698 Apr 23, 2014
KiMare wrote:
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
Today we pride ourselves with daughters in porn, or closer to home, free sex to any mongrel in the neighborhood.
And you condemn cultures that still protect their daughters from being labeled sluts?
Oh wait, not 'all' cultures, just ancient Abrahamic cultures!
Bigot.
Smile.
<quoted text>
Oh honey, I wasn't speaking about human trafficking, I was talking about the general public morality that uses abortion and the pill to do what used to be labeled being a slut.
You ignore and excuse that to condemn cultures that seek to prevent a woman from being so labeled, many times something the woman willingly participated in!
Major hypocrisy that exposes your bigotry and immorality.
Smile.
First, I'm not your honey, dimwit.

Second, quite frankly, you are lying.

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#226699 Apr 23, 2014
sweets2360 wrote:
<quoted text>
That's right, only the ministers, priests, whatever religious leader got to read to his crowd, what ever part of the book he wishes to, almost like now. Most people never open their bible until they are in church and reading along with the preacher. They may as well be illiterate.
The preacher chooses the subject, reads and then tells everybody what he just read meant.
Been that way since the beginning of the religion. The book is sacred to the illiterate, they trust what the minister says and what the meaning is.
Yes, and that was his error. IANS said that the Bible was written for the illiterate, which makes absolutely no sense.

What you say is correct, that the ministers, priests or whoever were the ones reading to Bible to the illiterate, and THAT's who the Bible was originally written for.

To say a book was written for those who can't read or write is just as dumb as having braille on our ATM machines. Maybe IANS had a part in that...

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#226700 Apr 23, 2014
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>
You go ahead and handle the sheetrock/sheet wall.
I'm much better with demurrers and motions to strike.
Yes, I know. You'd rather play with criminals all day.
blacklagoon

Jamaica Plain, MA

#226701 Apr 23, 2014
Eagle 12 wrote:
<quoted text>
My good Doctor, we are all going to take the last ride across the river Jordan. I would love for you to join those of us who are going onto a much better place but as much as I would love to save you, I can't.
Going to a much better place? Really, WTF is wrong with this place? I can't imagine a better place than what we have right here. A beautiful gem of a planet.

I am already surrounded by those that I love and those than love and or respect me, and my work. I'm financially secure, have multiple challenges, still have things to achieve and goals to acquire, my ability on my instrument are still of high professional calibre, my health is good, and I'm about to upgrade my sailboat to something a bit larger so more of my friends can experience to joys of sailing the Atlantic is a stiff 18-20 knot blow. I can't imagine how things could possibly be better. Kneeing at the foot of a demon God and being subservient just doesn't do it for me. Good luck with your "endless" existence. Although I quite sure you will be disappointed.

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#226702 Apr 23, 2014
Aura Mytha wrote:
You only play happy.
Oh.

Hey, while you're reading my mind when you tell me what else I'm feeling?

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#226703 Apr 23, 2014
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>I don't own a TV so I have never seen Cosmos, obviously you have never watched it, or if you did you didn't understand anything that was presented.
Um..... You just said that you have "never seen Cosmos", so how can you tell me that I didn't understand what was presented? You've never seen it.

Since: Jul 08

Columbus, OH

#226704 Apr 23, 2014
KiMare wrote:
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
The morality God established is sin leads to bondage and death. Always.
How did that shift?
<quoted text>
No shit sherlock.
However, we were talking about God's morality shifting.
Man up and admit you were wrong.
Smile.
Why would I admit something that's patently false?

The human species is subject to death for the exact same reason nonhuman members of the biota are. Folks die, in fact, precisely because they are part of the biota, which imposes a limited lifespan for all its known members. And claiming in the case of human members that limited lifespan is because of sin is simply absurd.

Just as important, your canon demonstrates changing views on death, what sin is, and what the consequences are.

Prof. James D. Tabor, Chair of the Department of Religious Studies at the University of North Carolina, Charlotte, in addressing the plethora of canonical views on death and afterlife, including postmortem rewards and punishment, writes:
Tabor wrote:
<quoted text>

There is no simple and single response to the question of what the Bible really says about death and life beyond the grave. What one finds is just what one would expect in any book composed of documents from many times, places, circumstances, and authors–variety and development. There are a lot of both, although by “development” I mean here simply change.

http://jamestabor.com/2012/08/26/what-the-bib...

The operative word in the above quote is *change*. Just as change is the very essence of the canon's view of sin.

Is it really still a transgression to eat shellfish? Rabbit? Pork? It would seem according to Acts 10 it no longer is. Does one still offend BibleGod by mixing fabric? Apparently not, since one need merely to follow two broad rule involving the love of god and man according to BibleJesus. Does one risk punishment by ignoring the circumcision process now? Not according to Paul in 1 Cor. 7:18. Does one run afoul of BibleGod's rules by working on the Sabbath? Seems now, according to Jesus, the Sabbath is made for man and not man for the Sabbath. Is it a sin now to slaughter captive young boys and old women and divvy up captive virgin girls after victory in war if you think BibleGod or one of his prophets tells you to? Seems it was OK when Numbers 31 was penned. How's that sit with BibleJesus' command to love one another? Is it still OK to have multiple wives? It was in the OT.
And what is the punishment awaiting the sinner in the afterlife? Annihilation? Simple banishment from the presence of BibleGod? Temporary punishment in hell followed by reconcilliation with BibleGod? Or endless torment in a fiery pit? Is whatever punishment there awaits the same for all or meted out in different measure depending on the nature of the sin? Do children burn in hell or no?

For every version of postmortem punishment represented in the above paragraph, there are Christian sects holding hold that view. Why so many modern views of punishment for sin? Because Tabor is correct. The canon was written over roughly a millennium. Its scores of major contributors and countless redactors had differing points of view on these matters. They came from different times, cultures, and circumstances. Modern Christians trying to harmonize these diverse and often contradictory views naturally harmonize them differently, since such harmony is not something that actually is there on this subject.

BibleGod and his rules are changelings.

Dimwit.
blacklagoon

Jamaica Plain, MA

#226705 Apr 23, 2014
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
Dogs growling at unseen thingies.
Your hair standing up on the back of your neck with nothing in sight.
Quite natural.
I refuse to carry on conversations with the mentally unstable!!!

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#226706 Apr 23, 2014
blacklagoon wrote:
Wrong again dipshit, on of these churches was a baptists church
What about the other on?

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#226707 Apr 23, 2014
blacklagoon wrote:
It is a proven fact that non-believers have a higher intelligence level that Theists look it up numbnuts!!!
"that" should be "than".

"Theists" should be "theists".

There should also be a comma after your incorrect use of the word "Theists".

You're welcome, Mr. HigherIntelligenceLevel

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#226708 Apr 23, 2014
blacklagoon wrote:
I'll have a vikings funeral, light my sailboat on fire and push me out into my beloved Atlantic Ocean.
Nope. Can't have an open flame like that. Try again.

Catcher1

Since: Sep 10

Redondo Beach, CA

#226709 Apr 23, 2014
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
Why does the hair stand up on end and your skin crawls when you get "spooked"?
Does the hair "smell"? Or "see".
No, it is attuned to EM influences. Sensors on full alert and shields up.
Why?
Jesus?

Satan?

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