Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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#224064 Apr 12, 2014
Aquarius-WY wrote:
<quoted text>Aquarius-WY wrote:

<quoted text>You are simply incorrect.
I have raised and conducted a chicken breeding program for decades. I can show you the progression of a controlled breeding program which has in fact bred out certain traits and bred in other certain traits.
Since that is true and has been demonstrated to be successful in changing the entire appearance so much so that an entirely new breed is named as a result, then reason dictates that over a much greater span of time than just a few decades, even greater "changes" are possible.

Now, can and does, a species morph into a completely different creature and species besides just "breed" characteristic differences within a single species, I can not say. I can only prove what I have witnessed as far as evolution is concerned within a single species ... and it is most certainly "empirical" evidence. Of that you can be sure.

"Now, can and does, a species morph into a completely different creature and species besides just "breed" characteristic differences within a single species, I can not say."

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Try reading.
So these chickens changed into a different kind of animal?

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#224065 Apr 12, 2014
BenAdam wrote:
<quoted text>From your link:

" all diseases are spiritually rooted "

So, God/Jesus could cure them all but doesn't.

WOW! What a POS deity !
God can deal with it by removing sin from the earth.

That also means removing everything which is attached to sin.

Which essentially means your own destruction.

That being the case, and that you also want it wrapped up, are you still willing that God stops holding back his justice, that He should give up on you and end it all?

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#224066 Apr 12, 2014
Divinity Surgeon wrote:
<quoted text>Genghis Khan and the cave men have nothing on the christians as far as rape and massacre goes.

Then add the numbers for the sexual abuse of children, perpetrated by christian clergy.

People were better off without christianity.
As an atheist what absolute moral standard are you appealing to here?

As atheism cannot supply one, would it be the Christian moral standard?

The one you are denying, but appealing to, to make your argument.

You clearly are not really an atheist, just a pretend one...

“LOL Really?”

Since: Oct 10

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#224067 Apr 12, 2014
mtimber wrote:
<quoted text>
As an atheist what absolute moral standard are you appealing to here?
As atheism cannot supply one, would it be the Christian moral standard?
The one you are denying, but appealing to, to make your argument.
You clearly are not really an atheist, just a pretend one...
Blah

Blah, ooooops sorry, burped

Blah

Since: Jan 13

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#224068 Apr 12, 2014
Aerobatty wrote:
<quoted text>Nobody is trying to destroy our future by invoking unicorns, superheroes or lava monsters.
What future?

You are an atheist, your life is pointless, if you of course actually believe in atheism.

All you are is a chemical accident, that will be forgotten in a very short time after your death...

With that in mind why are you rejecting the nihilism that your worldview truly leads you too...

Your life is pointless...

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#224069 Apr 12, 2014
mtimber wrote:
<quoted text>
So these chickens changed into a different kind of animal?
No.

But the Jungle Fowl, with its well-described lineage, certainly became a chicken over time.

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#224070 Apr 12, 2014
mtimber wrote:
<quoted text>
As an atheist what absolute moral standard are you appealing to here?
As atheism cannot supply one, would it be the Christian moral standard?
The one you are denying, but appealing to, to make your argument.
You clearly are not really an atheist, just a pretend one...
Answers in Genesis recommends that you not use that "morals" argument any more.
O G Kush

Jacksonville, FL

#224071 Apr 12, 2014
number four wrote:
<quoted text>.....basically ...SAYING ....you aren't free ....
go a head , and rebel .......you are free to choose Hell .......
You are free to interpret Diderot as you wish.

"No man ever believes that the Bible means what it says; he is always convinced that it says what he means." ~George Bernard Shaw

Hell?
Any person capable of the most basic critical thinking should be able to see very easily that such an idea of a physical paradise where there is no suffering is a completely illogical concept.

I would like to know how it is physically possible for a world with no suffering to exist. And I would specifically like to know whether carnivores would continue to eat herbivores, and how both could exist in a world with no suffering.

I am not interested in talking about metaphysics or fantasy-physics or any bald assertions about God.

I am only interested in the logical consistency of these ill logical claims about paradise.

I wonder whether 'the faithful ' have thought critically about the paradise they claim exists, or whether all of their argumentation about physics and metaphysics leads to nowhere but a concept of paradise which is fundamentally illogical and impossible to begin with.

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#224072 Apr 12, 2014
River Tam wrote:
<quoted text>Blah

Blah, ooooops sorry, burped

Blah
Do you have a rational response to make?

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#224073 Apr 12, 2014
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>No.

But the Jungle Fowl, with its well-described lineage, certainly became a chicken over time.
So a bird became a bird?

And this proves that birds were once dinosaurs?

You don't have any warning lights go off when you examine this argument?

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#224074 Apr 12, 2014
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>Answers in Genesis recommends that you not use that "morals" argument any more.
I am sure your claims of an edict are a little exaggerated...

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#224075 Apr 12, 2014
O G Kush wrote:
<quoted text>You are free to interpret Diderot as you wish.

"No man ever believes that the Bible means what it says; he is always convinced that it says what he means." ~George Bernard Shaw

Hell?
Any person capable of the most basic critical thinking should be able to see very easily that such an idea of a physical paradise where there is no suffering is a completely illogical concept.

I would like to know how it is physically possible for a world with no suffering to exist. And I would specifically like to know whether carnivores would continue to eat herbivores, and how both could exist in a world with no suffering.

I am not interested in talking about metaphysics or fantasy-physics or any bald assertions about God.

I am only interested in the logical consistency of these ill logical claims about paradise.

I wonder whether 'the faithful ' have thought critically about the paradise they claim exists, or whether all of their argumentation about physics and metaphysics leads to nowhere but a concept of paradise which is fundamentally illogical and impossible to begin with.
Your argument is fallacious.

Appealing to the present experience as a proof that an alternative experience cannot exist means the present is sufficient to equip you with omniscience.

Quite a claim...

Basically a variation on the uniformity of nature argument.

How do you know tomorrow will be consistent with today, how do you know gravity will work tomorrow for instance?
Clearwater

Fort Lauderdale, FL

#224076 Apr 12, 2014
River Tam wrote:
<quoted text>
Hush Tard
Smirk
Lets see: intolerance? Check. Name calling? Check. Bad attitude? Check.
Wish to silence other points of view? Check. Do you guys ever ever ever do as you say? Ever?

“LOL Really?”

Since: Oct 10

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#224077 Apr 12, 2014
mtimber wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you have a rational response to make?
Not to you.

Does that make me bad?

“ad victoriam”

Since: Dec 10

arte et marte

#224078 Apr 12, 2014
mtimber wrote:
<quoted text>
So a bird became a bird?
And this proves that birds were once dinosaurs?
You don't have any warning lights go off when you examine this argument?
The Maniraptora line shows it to be so, as does the dna of all avian species.
But many new species that blur the lines between the two species have been unearthed in China in recent discoveries. When you get to those that you can't be sure if they are truly a bird or really a dinosaur , there is no doubt where they came from.
O G Kush

Jacksonville, FL

#224079 Apr 12, 2014
mtimber wrote:
<quoted text>
As an atheist what absolute moral standard are you appealing to here?
As atheism cannot supply one, would it be the Christian moral standard?
The one you are denying, but appealing to, to make your argument.
You clearly are not really an atheist, just a pretend one...
At least one time you are correct I am not a atheist.

Pretend? Lol. This is solely the domain of organized religion aka superstition.

The morality of which you are so proud... occurred long ago. It is fair to say yours was rather late on the scene.

"This is the sum of duty. Do not unto others that which would cause you pain if done to you." -- Mahabharata 5:1517, from the Vedic tradition of India, circa 3000 BCE

Catcher1

Since: Sep 10

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#224080 Apr 12, 2014
Clearwater wrote:
<quoted text>Lets see: intolerance? Check. Name calling? Check. Bad attitude? Check.
Wish to silence other points of view? Check. Do you guys ever ever ever do as you say? Ever?
Woe is you.
Clearwater

Fort Lauderdale, FL

#224081 Apr 12, 2014
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Woe is you.
Have you wished death on anyone today? Told anyone you contribute more to society? Please do keep showing the world where a man that hates God and His children stands. I really pity you sir.
Eagle 12

Edwardsville, IL

#224083 Apr 12, 2014
Last night I went to see the movie,“God is not dead.”

It’s a movie where Atheism and Christianity collide.

Kevin Sorbo plays the role of Professor Radisson (Atheist).
I think he did a outstanding job in this role.

This movie appeals to both Atheist and Christians. Both sides of the argument is presented. If you are looking for something to do tonight, go and see it.
Eagle 12

Edwardsville, IL

#224084 Apr 12, 2014
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Woe is you.
I just want to let you know that I still love you even though you hate me.

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