Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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“Ditat Deus”

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#222919 Apr 4, 2014
NightSerf wrote:
<quoted text>The way I read the post, the point was that prayers that disrupt the educational process are not constitutionally protected, not that they violate the Constitution. The difference is not even all that subtle. Since they are not so protected, school policies that limit or forbid disruptive prayers are valid and may be enforced.
Saying grace at the cafeteria table is thus protected, while loudly reciting the 23rd psalm during math class is not. The student who does the former should be left alone while doing the latter can (and should) result in disciplinary action.
Your logic is sound.

I agree with you.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#222920 Apr 4, 2014
Aquarius-WY wrote:
<quoted text>Do you always read things into, and add totally unrelated crap to the posts of others which are simply not there?
The only thing I said was that the climate models are not accurate as the evidence does NOT support the theory.
Of course we are to be good stewards and reduce our impact on our environment.
That goes without saying.
Clowns like you cackling Chicken Little fools would serve your own stated purpose far better, if you actually made sure that the evidence fits the "conclusion" before accusing your fellow man of things which are simply a lie.
Grow up. Learn about the real facts.
Ok. You too.

http://co2now.org

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#222921 Apr 4, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>If she chose sex and chose to be irresponsible about it, yes.

But she wasn't "forced" into becoming a mom, she CHOSE to risk it and therefore CHOSE it.

[QUOTE] Don't you think it would be much better if she did NOT become a mother at 13? "

Absolutely! She shouldn't be having sex in the first place.

[QUOTE] Do you think a 13 yo boy makes a good supportive father? "

Hell no. That's why he shouldn't be having sex and risking knocking a girl up.

[QUOTE] Who buys diapers, pays the doc and hospital, formula, food? Grandma and grandpa? "

What?! Hell no. That boy and that girl made their choices. They need to man-up about it, get jobs and take care of their "accident". The grandparents didn't force them to try sex, the grandparents aren't financially responsible.

[QUOTE] Maybe they don't want to become parents again at close to retirement age. "

Huh? They wouldn't become parents again, their kid's would be.

[QUOTE] If you think these kids are not experimenting with sex at that age, you are nuts. If a condom will stop 2 kids from a hell of a life, its worth it. "

I agree. If they're gonna do it, they're gonna do it.

It's their choice if they choose to be responsible about it.

Ever stop to think that actions and choices have consequences? Ever consider that a 13 year old having sex is illegal and immoral?
I'm guessing you never had sex until you were married.

Right?

“Ditat Deus”

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#222922 Apr 4, 2014
ChristineM wrote:
<quoted text>
Not precious but true, it has a very strong Christian heritage and that heritage is at least partly responsible to a lot of the atrocities committed in Englandís name over the centuries.
Part of the reason why that heritage is in serious decline.
You will also note the UK holds some responsibility for the popularity of christianity in the US. Early settlers left the UK and sailed to the US to avoid the religious tolerance that was beginning to permeate society here. The Puritan movement is a perfect example.
You really need to take a class in US history. The settlers that left England and headed for the US did it for religious freedom, not because of supposed religious tolerance. Back then in England, there was no religious tolerance, if you were an English citizen, you were a Christian. Period.

“Ditat Deus”

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#222923 Apr 4, 2014
ChristineM wrote:
So you are all for the spread of hiv and underage pregnancies?
Thanks for making that clear, you religion is so tolerant.
No, I'm not saying that at all. I'm all for early teens not having sex at all.
Just because you choose age limits under which certain activities should be banned make no difference to whether those activities occur or not. We are talking about peopleís lives here not party political politics
I don't choose the age limits, darling. The laws of the United States do. United States federal law says at the age of sexual consent is 18. The majority of states see it as 16, but some are 17 and others stick with the federal 18 year mark.

So handing out condoms to 15-year-olds and allowing legal abortions without the parents knowledge or consent to a 13-year-old girl should be a federal crime.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#222924 Apr 4, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>Your logic is sound.

I agree with you.
So do I.

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#222925 Apr 4, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
It makes no difference.
Nobody has any constitutional right to not hear a prayer.
does the school not have a policy on vulgarity
?

“Ditat Deus”

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#222926 Apr 4, 2014
Aquarius-WY wrote:
<quoted text>
And just what are you teaching your own kids on that subject?
What are you teaching them which will insulate them from all the mayhem?
Are >you< equipping every child you come into contact with as a mentor or relative or friend with what they need to make their own decisions which will keep them "safe"?
Ya know just bitching about what others are doing gets one no where fast.
You keep pointing out problems. WHERE are your solutions sir?
My solution is keeping my kids occupied on other things and monitoring, heavily monitoring, any and all Internet activity.

All a parent needs to do is spend time with their kids and make them understand responsibility, starting from a very early age. For a long time now I've been teaching my kids about bills, about money, and about taking care of themselves and how it's done.

I've also warned them, countless times, that if they ever do knock a girl up that they're on their own. I've given them a coldhearted promise that I will not buy them one single diaper if they can be that irresponsible.

It's called Toughlove. I don't think many parents nowadays are capable of doing that. My sister-in-law for example, she's told her kids that they don't ever have to move out, but they can live with mommy and daddy forever. Doing stuff like that will give the child absolutely no motivation to excel or succeed in their own lives. They'll remain dependent on their parents as long as they can. I completely and wholeheartedly disagree with that kind of child rearing.

“Ditat Deus”

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#222927 Apr 4, 2014
Aerobatty wrote:
I'm guessing you never had sex until you were married.
Right?
No, I messed up too.

Kids are stupid, inexperienced. They need to be reminded of that constantly or they'll get their head up their ass thinking they know better, like a lot of us did.

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#222928 Apr 4, 2014
Aerobatty wrote:
<quoted text>
If it's disruptive in a public school classroom, they certainly do have a right to not have to hear it.
most schools have policy forbidding spoken obscenity and profanity.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#222929 Apr 4, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>My solution is keeping my kids occupied on other things and monitoring, heavily monitoring, any and all Internet activity.

All a parent needs to do is spend time with their kids and make them understand responsibility, starting from a very early age. For a long time now I've been teaching my kids about bills, about money, and about taking care of themselves and how it's done.

I've also warned them, countless times, that if they ever do knock a girl up that they're on their own. I've given them a coldhearted promise that I will not buy them one single diaper if they can be that irresponsible.

It's called Toughlove. I don't think many parents nowadays are capable of doing that. My sister-in-law for example, she's told her kids that they don't ever have to move out, but they can live with mommy and daddy forever. Doing stuff like that will give the child absolutely no motivation to excel or succeed in their own lives. They'll remain dependent on their parents as long as they can. I completely and wholeheartedly disagree with that kind of child rearing.
So you're an "abstinence only" type?

Yeah. That works.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#222930 Apr 4, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>No, I'm not saying that at all. I'm all for early teens not having sex at all.

[QUOTE] Just because you choose age limits under which certain activities should be banned make no difference to whether those activities occur or not. We are talking about people’s lives here not party political politics
"

I don't choose the age limits, darling. The laws of the United States do. United States federal law says at the age of sexual consent is 18. The majority of states see it as 16, but some are 17 and others stick with the federal 18 year mark.

So handing out condoms to 15-year-olds and allowing legal abortions without the parents knowledge or consent to a 13-year-old girl should be a federal crime.
How old were you your first time?

“Evolved hunter/gatherer”

Since: Jan 08

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#222931 Apr 4, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
My solution is keeping my kids occupied on other things and monitoring, heavily monitoring, any and all Internet activity.
All a parent needs to do is spend time with their kids and make them understand responsibility, starting from a very early age. For a long time now I've been teaching my kids about bills, about money, and about taking care of themselves and how it's done.
I've also warned them, countless times, that if they ever do knock a girl up that they're on their own. I've given them a coldhearted promise that I will not buy them one single diaper if they can be that irresponsible.
It's called Toughlove. I don't think many parents nowadays are capable of doing that. My sister-in-law for example, she's told her kids that they don't ever have to move out, but they can live with mommy and daddy forever. Doing stuff like that will give the child absolutely no motivation to excel or succeed in their own lives. They'll remain dependent on their parents as long as they can. I completely and wholeheartedly disagree with that kind of child rearing.
Interesting.
" that if they ever do knock a girl up that they're on their own."
" I've given them a coldhearted promise that I will not buy them one single diaper if they can be that irresponsible."

So, it is OK to you to endanger your own grandchild(ren), disown and alienate your own kids in the process, and smugly proclaim that they must be perfect and if they are not ... they get tossed aside like a candy wrapper.
How loving and benevolent of you.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#222932 Apr 4, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>No, I messed up too.

Kids are stupid, inexperienced. They need to be reminded of that constantly or they'll get their head up their ass thinking they know better, like a lot of us did.
Like ALL of us did.

Trying to force abstinence is a fool's errand.

Don't encourage, but accept reality and keep them safe.

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#222933 Apr 4, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
ID is the pursuit of valid science. It rises or falls on the science.
Nobody should be against that.
Incidentally, the largest creationist organizations vehemently oppose ID.
ID is a christian in liar clothing

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#222934 Apr 4, 2014
Aquarius-WY wrote:
<quoted text>Interesting.
" that if they ever do knock a girl up that they're on their own."
" I've given them a coldhearted promise that I will not buy them one single diaper if they can be that irresponsible."

So, it is OK to you to endanger your own grandchild(ren), disown and alienate your own kids in the process, and smugly proclaim that they must be perfect and if they are not ... they get tossed aside like a candy wrapper.
How loving and benevolent of you.
He beats kids and women.

“Ditat Deus”

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#222935 Apr 4, 2014
Aerobatty wrote:
<quoted text>
So do I.
If you would've put it as logically as he did, you and I would've never debated it.

“Why does my ignorance”

Since: Mar 11

justify your deity?

#222936 Apr 4, 2014
waaasssuuup wrote:
<quoted text>
that's funny, cuz i did the same with yours!
"i'm the only psuedo-quazi mumbo-jumbo hindamuslabudajewian in the world!" Duane
I just want you to know that I plagiarized the following. In any case, it's entirely true:

"It helps me get to the end of your eye-rollingly shitty posts by imaging your head is a big meatloaf with red pepper lips, an olive nose and hard boiled egg eyes. Then I read your dumbnuts post in the voice of the mom vulture in bugs bunny. Voila. Tolerable."

“Ditat Deus”

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#222937 Apr 4, 2014
[QUOTE who="Aerobatty"
So you're an "abstinence only" type?
Yeah. That works.[/QUOTE]

No.

I'm a "responsible sex only" type.

My post made it clear.

“Ditat Deus”

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#222938 Apr 4, 2014
Aerobatty wrote:
How old were you your first time?
3rd base, 15.

Home run, 16.

You?

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