Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#222031 Mar 28, 2014
Skombolis wrote:
<quoted text>As for the senses I don't if we disagree more on a semantic or fundamental level. Maybe both. Maybe neither.
Let me explain what I believe a "sixth" sense to be. I agree our senses are sharper when we are not distracted. But I also believe we have the ability but not the knowledge on how to use out senses to do much more with them then we do now.
It doesn't even necessarily have to be a "sense". Is perception or intuition a "sense"? I don't know how you would define either. But I believe there exists a disconnect between man and his perceptions due to the lack of developing the ability to use it or learning how to be more in tune with it.
Maybe that is what you would define as a sixth sense. If so then we would disagree. But I believe some people has the ability to perceive things most people never have and probably never will be able to as they don't even know its something they are lacking. That is why I mentioned even small things we take for granted like animals knowing when someone is sick or when danger is around. It's a perception that transcends just normal observation. Or I should say what we know to observe. I think out perceptions have the ability to be so much greater than they are, but we just don't know how.
I think I see what you are saying, here-- it's not that you are claiming some magical "other sense" that is unknown, it's that you are saying some folk pay better attention to the senses they do have, than other people.

And I whole-heartedly agree.

For example, your average person can glance at a chess board, with a game-in-progress, and just see a jumble of pieces.

But for a chess master? That same glance, will tell the master who's winning, who's losing, who has the advantage, and so on-- in fact? He(she) will likely be able to replicate that game-in-progress, on another board, without looking back to the first game, all from a casual glance.

The chess master's glance is more **perceptive** of the various nuances of chess, than an untrained observer would be.

So, certainly-- some folk are more perceptive than others, given specific conditions.

Another example, is the fictional character Sherlock Holmes-- based on real-world people, of course. Holmes, has trained himself to observe every little detail in a given scene. This is possible to do, as real-world crime scene detectives can be so trained (maybe not as incredible as the fictional Holmes, but certainly well above a casual observer).

There is much about human perception that we still do not understand--that much is certain.

The future can be a very bright one, as we unlock more of these secrets about ourselves.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#222032 Mar 28, 2014
Phantom2010 wrote:
<quoted text> Well you're an atheist. How were you indoctrinated?
I was indoctrinated against my will, as a baby, to belong to the cult that is Genuine Christianity™.

I remained brainwashed in that cult for most of my life, finally able to set myself free from the brain-damage that is faith, by simply reading the **whole** bible, and not just the pretty bits (as you no doubt do).

Once I realized how incredibly ugly and evil the bible is? I also realized that no god who GAVE A DAMN would have permitted the ugly bible to even exist at all.

So, clearly, there is no such being.

If god exists? God does not care one bit about the collective fate of humanity.

The proof is the very existence of the bible, the quoran, the book of mormon, the <insert religious book here> ...

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#222033 Mar 28, 2014
wilderide wrote:
<quoted text>
Gays and lesbians more popular than evangelical Christians:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/28/gays...
:D
BTW, the only place a homosexual agenda exists is in the mind of the ignorant and paranoid like yourself.
They use Mein Kampf replacing "Jew" with "gay".

The Christ-Stains are the ones with an agenda.

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#222034 Mar 28, 2014
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
Or, perhaps had a little deamon inside?
Maxwell's ?

LOL

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#222035 Mar 28, 2014
BenAdam wrote:
<quoted text>
You, RR, Buck, etc.
It seems to be requirement to be a "Real Christian".
Indeed.

They are proof that no god who cares can possibly exist-- for what god would suffer such as they, to represent it?

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#222037 Mar 28, 2014
wilderide wrote:
<quoted text>
Gays and lesbians more popular than evangelical Christians:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/28/gays...
:D
BTW, the only place a homosexual agenda exists is in the mind of the ignorant and paranoid like yourself.
Progress!

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#222036 Mar 28, 2014
Still asking questions - good - you should be, because most of what you seem to know, isn't all accurate. Let's take another look at these "questions"....

tricki wrote:
Oranges
TEST THREE
A. From the atom to the universe, is there order?
___ YES ___ NO
- Well based upon mutations that occur - which is not "order" I would have to say, NO there isn't.

B. Did it happen by accident?
___ YES ___ NO
- Possibly - but that isn't one of the choices, huh? Why isn't it? I know for sure that you have no proof on how the universe was created, so again, you are looking at all of this through your own world goggles and not taking into consideration the facts - which is - THAT YOU DON"T KNOW EITHER.

C. Or, must there have been an intelligent mind?
___ YES ___ NO
- Again - there is no proof that a specific being created the universe. Why can't you understand this? Why do you promote something you have no clue or knowledge of?

D. What are the chances of 50 oranges falling by chance
into ten rows of five oranges?_________
If you answered "YES" for any of the above, give details.
- None - except only with HUMAN INTERVENTION.

Another set of your questions that really have no bearing upon the world.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#222038 Mar 28, 2014
wilderide wrote:
<quoted text>
Bob, it's not torture, it's love. Don't you find slavery, genocide, ethnic-cleansing, misogyny, homophobia, racism, and infanticide loving behavior? Because if not, I'm afraid I know a deity which will love you to death for all eternity.
<raises one eyebrow in response>

<and then chuckles at the above wit>

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

Location hidden

#222039 Mar 28, 2014
waaasssuuup wrote:
<quoted text>you are COMPLETELY off in your doctrine and are NOT at all represetning the Truth of God!

allow me to break this down:

skom - "Salvation is not based solely on obedience. It also requires faith"

salvation is based soley on our faith in the obedience of Christ!

skom "Man could live a sinless life and still not be saved according to Christian ideology"

man is born a sinner and therefore cannot be sinless before God unless he gets regenerated in spirit/nature through the new birth!

now - either embrace these very basic tenants of the Christian faith or i'll continue to expose you as a wolf in sheeps clothing!
Were you as slimy on your rebirth as your first one?

You still seem pretty slimy to me.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#222040 Mar 28, 2014
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
I think I see what you are saying, here-- it's not that you are claiming some magical "other sense" that is unknown, it's that you are saying some folk pay better attention to the senses they do have, than other people.
And I whole-heartedly agree.
For example, your average person can glance at a chess board, with a game-in-progress, and just see a jumble of pieces.
But for a chess master? That same glance, will tell the master who's winning, who's losing, who has the advantage, and so on-- in fact? He(she) will likely be able to replicate that game-in-progress, on another board, without looking back to the first game, all from a casual glance.
The chess master's glance is more **perceptive** of the various nuances of chess, than an untrained observer would be.
So, certainly-- some folk are more perceptive than others, given specific conditions.
Another example, is the fictional character Sherlock Holmes-- based on real-world people, of course. Holmes, has trained himself to observe every little detail in a given scene. This is possible to do, as real-world crime scene detectives can be so trained (maybe not as incredible as the fictional Holmes, but certainly well above a casual observer).
There is much about human perception that we still do not understand--that much is certain.
The future can be a very bright one, as we unlock more of these secrets about ourselves.
Hey Bob - another good and helpful post by you.

Thanks!

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

Location hidden

#222041 Mar 28, 2014
waaasssuuup wrote:
<quoted text>do you realize how ridiculous you sound?

the heavens of heavens cannot completely contain the Person of Jesus/God so how on earth could He possibly be contained in a Book, glorious as the Bible is?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Oh...

You were being serious.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

Location hidden

#222042 Mar 28, 2014
tricki wrote:
<quoted text>What do you believe?
I believe you are seriously mentally impaired.
tricki

Birdsboro, PA

#222043 Mar 28, 2014
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
Hell is not real, you silly buffoon.
Neither is your ugly torturer-god.
Prove it.

My beloved atheists are struggling to find arguments these days. Diarrhea is settling down. Krazi's been caught in so many lies, she's getting tongue tied. None of them dare answer the simple atheist test! They do, however, know how to make me laugh.

HELL isn't real and you will know for sure in no time. No one built the sun, either. It just stopped in one day and decided to hang around. No one ever baked a cake

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

Location hidden

#222044 Mar 28, 2014
Skombolis wrote:
<quoted text>I was never terrorized with threats of hell as a child. I went to a parochial school and they didn't even get into it until like 7th and 8th grade. And even then it was conveyed as something Jesus died to spare us from. I only know like 2 people on Topix where it seems like hell was used as a threat when they were a child and even then it came from the parents. I think it is pretty rare teachers or priests get into hell with children and not as a threat. I know many people in the faith obviously and have never heard that from any of them. Why do you think otherwise and what is your basis for thinking that?
Because "believe or burn in hell" can't be reasonably seen as anything BUT a threat.
tricki

Birdsboro, PA

#222045 Mar 28, 2014
Told ya.

NEXT!
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
Still asking questions - good - you should be, because most of what you seem to know, isn't all accurate. Let's take another look at these "questions"....
tricki wrote:
Oranges
TEST THREE
A. From the atom to the universe, is there order?
___ YES ___ NO
- Well based upon mutations that occur - which is not "order" I would have to say, NO there isn't.
B. Did it happen by accident?
___ YES ___ NO
- Possibly - but that isn't one of the choices, huh? Why isn't it? I know for sure that you have no proof on how the universe was created, so again, you are looking at all of this through your own world goggles and not taking into consideration the facts - which is - THAT YOU DON"T KNOW EITHER.
C. Or, must there have been an intelligent mind?
___ YES ___ NO
- Again - there is no proof that a specific being created the universe. Why can't you understand this? Why do you promote something you have no clue or knowledge of?
D. What are the chances of 50 oranges falling by chance
into ten rows of five oranges?_________
If you answered "YES" for any of the above, give details.
- None - except only with HUMAN INTERVENTION.
Another set of your questions that really have no bearing upon the world.
tricki

Birdsboro, PA

#222046 Mar 28, 2014
Aerobatty wrote:
<quoted text>
Because "believe or burn in hell" can't be reasonably seen as anything BUT a threat.
Of course it's a threat. Duh.

Don't touch a burning stove you moron.
tricki

Birdsboro, PA

#222047 Mar 28, 2014
No. Go ahead. Put your hand on a burning stove. Good move. I say this with Satan's love in my heart.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

Location hidden

#222049 Mar 28, 2014
tricki wrote:
<quoted text>I don't know anyone this stupid.

There is no proof anyone built the golden gate bridge or Apollo 11 or the empire state building, or an M-16 or an automobile.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Oh...

You were being serious.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#222050 Mar 28, 2014
waaasssuuup wrote:
<quoted text>
"Consider therefore the kindness and sternness of God: sternness to those who fell, but kindness to you, provided that you continue in his kindness. Otherwise, you also will be cut off"
based on the above scripture that you used, i'm telling you not to fall from grace back into works/our ability to obey AND not to promote works/obedience as the way of salvation to others or you will be cut off from God's kindness:-)
The good thing for you I guess is that you don't understand the scripture you also don't know or follow or believe

:)

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#222051 Mar 28, 2014
wilderide wrote:
<quoted text>
Gays and lesbians more popular than evangelical Christians:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/28/gays...
:D
BTW, the only place a homosexual agenda exists is in the mind of the ignorant and paranoid like yourself.
"Gays and lesbians more popular than evangelical Christians" wilderide

"as it was in the days of Sodom so shall it be in the end" Jesus

put your seatbelts on folks cuz you're in for a wilderide!

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