Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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#221241 Mar 25, 2014
IPSEC wrote:
<quoted text>So you invent something even more complex to explain it, claim it always existed, claim it is outside space and time yet can somehow effect even the minutiae within space and time, and decry others as irrational. Hookay, Sparky.
That is it in a nutshell !

They are either too stupid, too insane or to deceitful to either admit or realize that fact.
IPSEC

Fort Worth, TX

#221242 Mar 25, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
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That's not what he said. You lied again.
What you are too stupid to know is that Darwin's evolution theory would not fit the NAS definition of "scientific theory" in its early decades.
According to Behe, evolution qualified as a scientific theory. According to the NAS, it would not have.
Of course it wouldn't, you pathological liar. Theories always begin as hypotheses. It's how it works. Evolution was a hypothesis long before Darwin. It is pre-Socratic, fer Buck's sake. Besides, you already admitted ID was not falsifiable, and, therefore, useless.

Evolution is simply the irrefutable change of alleles over time. It is not cosmology. It is not abiogenesis. It is not any of the things Apologist, Inc. misrepresents it to be in order yo fill their coffers. ID tries, and fails, to be all those things.

I'm still waiting for you to offer one quality of life improvement or one scientific discovery related to ID. Do geologists use science related to evolution to discover new sources of oil or do they look to a universe poofed into existence by one of a million historical gods and follow that dead end, like flood geology, for example? Do geneticists look to cure disease using evolutionary science or do they presume Goddidit and germ theory is really Devilsoup getting us sick? There are myriad examples as evolutionary science is intertwined with every scientific I discipline from anatomy to zoology and all in between. It is irrefutable.

ID? Nope. Nothing. Nada. Nix. Zilch. It only exists to make charlatans rich on the backs of fools.
IPSEC

Fort Worth, TX

#221243 Mar 25, 2014
BenAdam wrote:
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That is it in a nutshell !
They are either too stupid, too insane or to deceitful to either admit or realize that fact.
There are other possibilities. Have you ever heard of a the Clergy Project of ExChristians.net ? There is an inherent fear to release the demons of indoctrinated dogma. The psychological effect of the various ways that god belief is driven into the minds of children is quite devastating and the release of that belief can take years of counseling before the fear can be ameliorated.
IPSEC

Fort Worth, TX

#221244 Mar 25, 2014
Eagle 12 wrote:
In 1867 Russia sold to the United States Alaska for about 2 cents an acre.
Obviously the seller must have believed this was a good deal for them to make. Alaska was undeveloped, difficult to traverse and harsh.
Many believed the United States had been scammed. Paying something for nothing. The Russians didn’t believe what they sold would ever have any great value.
William H. Seward was the United States Secretary of State who made the deal. He was ridiculed for this action all the way to his grave. It wasn’t until eight years after his death was gold discovered in Alaska.
Gold, Silver, precious minerals of all sorts, oil which is black gold, the fishing industry are just of few examples of this great wealth in Alaska. There was no proof in 1867 that Alaska had all this wealth. Not even one clue.
Even to this day we don’t know Alaska’s full potential. Because much of it remains undiscovered. Unbelievers ridiculed the purchase of Alaska. Something for nothing. But history has shown it was nothing for something.
Because you think we have nothing doesn’t mean it’s so. In the end history will shine favorably on the true followers of Christ. For we have obtained a great treasure and you have obtained nothing. But nothing is what you wanted.
William H. Seward took a risk and that risk paid in Gold. He may have believed that he had failed his country in those last days of his life. His ridiculers certainly believed he was a failure.
But his contribution was far from being a failure. His bold move of faith blessed a entire nation and continues to bless this United States of America.
This is why you believe in a Christ, because of some belief in a potential for "lottery winnings" of some sort? Yeah, that pretty much goes against the teachings of the Christ in the Bible. Now, Republican Jesus, the land rapist and human exploiter, he's right there with you, but Socialist Bible Jesus, He's not. Which one do you think will be sitting on the White Commode of a justice waiting for you to frottle his frenulum?
IPSEC

Fort Worth, TX

#221245 Mar 25, 2014
Rosa_Winkel wrote:
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Save it for your wife, sleazoid. If you have one.
The last pice of ass nutsup got was when his finger went through the toilet paper.
IPSEC

Fort Worth, TX

#221246 Mar 25, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
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Because I am in sympathy with an honest underdog who is being savaged by a large entrenched power structure on the basis of ideology and dogma, and in the process, politicizing science, all the while lying through their teeth about it.
That's the short answer.
Aplologetics, Inc. an honest underdog? Bwahahahahaha. Scientists lying for political purposes? Bwahahahahaha. Man, you're certifiably insane.

What's next, MAS370 flew too high and got stuck in Heaven but the politicians are trying to hide the news? It's all a big conspiracy!!!

You've never, as far as I have seen, delineated exactly what your beliefs are. This cowardice speaks volumes.
IPSEC

Fort Worth, TX

#221247 Mar 25, 2014
Aerobatty wrote:
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If intelligent design was ever accepted as science, what value would it have?
What predictions would it make?
It won't be. It has none. There are none. If there were, Buck would have misunderstood and copied something from Apologetics, Inc already. You know, those "honest underdogs" who rake in billions per year from the backs of fools.

I had no idea Buck was a conspiracy moron but I should have guessed.
Thinking

Stockbridge, UK

#221248 Mar 25, 2014
A magic man dunnit.[sic]
Aerobatty wrote:
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If intelligent design was ever accepted as science, what value would it have?
What predictions would it make?

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#221249 Mar 25, 2014
Catcher1 wrote:
I fully understand your need to distance yourself from Fred Phelps.
Actually, you're closer to him than I am.

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#221250 Mar 25, 2014
Catcher1 wrote:
That, you can get away with.
"Capsice," not so much, PhelpsLite.
Bitch all you want, you're still wrong. I didn't misspell capsize, as you claimed.

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#221251 Mar 25, 2014
IPSEC wrote:
<quoted text>So you invent something even more complex to explain it, claim it always existed, claim it is outside space and time yet can somehow effect even the minutiae within space and time, and decry others as irrational. Hookay, Sparky.
So you concluded all that from my noting the possibility of a outside intelligent force?

You just exposed your ignorant bigotry and bias.

Smile.

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#221252 Mar 25, 2014
BenAdam wrote:
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That is it in a nutshell !
They are either too stupid, too insane or to deceitful to either admit or realize that fact.
LOL, dumb and dumber.

Smirk.

Since: Sep 10

Long Beach, CA

#221253 Mar 25, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Bitch all you want, you're still wrong. I didn't misspell capsize, as you claimed.
But you misspelled, PhelpsLite.

Off to the gym.

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#221254 Mar 25, 2014
IPSEC wrote:
Aplologetics, Inc. an honest underdog? Bwahahahahaha. Scientists lying for political purposes? Bwahahahahaha.
The Piltdown man.

Global warming.

Haeckel's fake drawings.

Happeh Theory.

Steady State.

Bwahaha indeed. This sums you up:

"A MAN WITH A CONVICTION is a hard man to change. Tell him you disagree and he turns away. Show him facts or figures and he questions your sources. Appeal to logic and he fails to see your point."

- Stanford University psychologist Leon Festinger

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#221255 Mar 25, 2014
Aura Mytha wrote:
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Sorry you're a buffoon.
Websters.
finite
1
a : having definite or definable limits <a finite number of possibilities>
b : having a limited nature or existence <finite beings>
2
: completely determinable in theory or in fact by counting, measurement, or thought.
hmm
completely determinable in theory or in fact by counting, measurement, or thought.
You're proving me right.

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#221256 Mar 25, 2014
Aura Mytha wrote:
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I agree Irreducible Complexity and intelligent design is just as valid as Intelligent grappling.
" A Georgia group calling itself Teachers for Equal Time has asked that stickers be placed in all new physics textbooks which note that mutual attraction and relativity are not the only theories available to explain gravity and should not be taken as fact."
Teachers for Equal Time hopes that the addition of the warning stickers will pave the way for the teaching of its alternative theory, Intelligent Grappling, the theory that certain intelligent and conscious agents “push” things together.
Dr Elf M. Sternberg, the originator of the theory of Intelligent Grappling, or “IG” as some call it, and president of Teachers for Equal Time, announced the group’s plans to seek legislation requiring the stickers at a Cobb County school board meeting.
“Mutual attraction has had a monopoly on the truth for too long,” said Dr. Sternberg,“it is time we let children see all of the theories.”
Gravity isn't real, you stay on Earth because the hand of god holds you down!
Irreducible Complexity made it into the scientific publication "Cellular and Molecular Life Sciences" this past December.

Let me know when your IG makes it in.

In fact, why don't you sit in that spot you're in and wait for it, Moron?
IPSEC

Euless, TX

#221258 Mar 25, 2014
KiMare wrote:
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So you concluded all that from my noting the possibility of a outside intelligent force?
You just exposed your ignorant bigotry and bias.
Smile.
No, from everything you have written, this far. There is a record of your miscellaneous ramblings that strangely form the pattern as I described it. Your inherent insanity precludes you from understanding even the nonsense you proffer. You can get help for your condition. Therapy and medication can help you find your way out of your immoral, ideological morass and back to reality.

By the way, you don't just "(note) the possibility of an outside(,)(sic) intelligent source", it is the only play in your ridiculous, non-evidential, defrocked wheelhouse. You can try to deflect your inanity in any manner you wish, but you can't even buy an ally among the anonymous, fellow-deluded you co-mingle with here. Even they find you unpalatable.

“I started out with nothing”

Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#221259 Mar 25, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
RiversideRedneck wrote:
That's like saying Obama created jobs.
Both statements are incorrect.
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I said Obama, not Bush.
Why are you stuck on bush?
Could be because Bush and his cronies created the word recession of 2007/8

Why are you stuck on obama?

Is it because you like to ignore facts and juts cherry pick what suits you?
IPSEC

Euless, TX

#221260 Mar 25, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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The Piltdown man.
Global warming.
Haeckel's fake drawings.
Happeh Theory.
Steady State.
Bwahaha indeed. This sums you up:
"A MAN WITH A CONVICTION is a hard man to change. Tell him you disagree and he turns away. Show him facts or figures and he questions your sources. Appeal to logic and he fails to see your point."
- Stanford University psychologist Leon Festinger
Oh, you're another conspiracy moron. Got it. So noted.

Climate change is confirmed, nitwit, and your handful of examples, while potentially damning, yet, strangely, readily admitted and shown as fraudulent by the scientific community pale in comparison to the abject, utter-immersion fraud of the multi-billion dollar per year Apologetics industry.

You're going to have to do much better than that, since evolutionary science is intertwined with every other scientific discipline and has led to scientific advancement and improved quality of life while ID has only improved the bank accounts of the charlatans who spew it.

Please, still, one scientific advance, one improvement to quality of life based on ID. Just one. Even an oil field discovery. Put up or shut up.

“I started out with nothing”

Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#221261 Mar 25, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Ooooooh! You just called me a monkey.
How racist of you.
Funny how you always balk at payback?

Ape not monkey and no racism involved in an ape with a finger in his butt, you are after all nothing but an intelligent (and I use the word in the loosest possible way) ape sticking your finger into your butt

You don’t like the results of your BS then don’t pots you BS

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