Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent. Full Story

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#220667 Mar 21, 2014
Anon wrote:
It's only fair.
We had to read your "prove you have hands" nonsense for months...
That's because it took the idiots here months to understand that nothing can be proven in this particular venue, even your hands.

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#220668 Mar 21, 2014
IPSEC wrote:
<quoted text>Are you drunk already this morning. Your attempt at "making fun" is stupid when the poster already described which one he was referring to. It is not your heretic, jack-legged non-description of Dear Leader who is really just your childish ego and ugly id.
Ya but, which god?

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#220669 Mar 21, 2014
Aerobatty wrote:
I'm a full time atheist.
So is my boot.

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#220670 Mar 21, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:

Christianity isn't a cult.
Tide with Beach wrote:
Yes it is.
No it isn't.
I lack belief in all deities, including those that nobody believes in or has ever imagined.
Congratulations.

You expect a prize or something?
Christianity is a cult based on mythology.
You keep using that word.

I do not think it means what you think it means.

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#220671 Mar 21, 2014
Darwins Stepchild wrote:
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Some have suggested picketing his funeral. I disagree. That would be stooping to his level, which is something I refuse to do.
Oddly, in his last days as pastor he seemed to be taking a half step back from his intolerance of gays. The board of the church "excommunicated" him...tossed him out for this view. They also were of the opinion that women have a subservient position in the church and tossed out his daughter who had been their long-time media contact. And one of the board members that tossed her out of her position was her own son.
From what I have heard, the quality of their communications has degenerated to about the level of RR's discourse.
Do you know that the board of his church (not THE church) is like 3 people?

Do you know the WBC has about 40 people in its congregation?

40.

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#220672 Mar 21, 2014
Aerobatty wrote:
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"Reason" is not a word you've earned the right to use.
how does one earn it and from whom? thou self-righteous judge and jury of everything!

“Credulity is not a virtue”

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#220673 Mar 21, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Everyone will be judged by God. Everyone. Even you.
It's the Topix Atheist's! fools idea that thinks all a person has to do his claim that they believe in Jesus and they automatically get a free pass straight to heaven. That's not how it works.
Most people understand that doing evil can keep us out of heaven. But few realize the Bible also teaches that doing good isn't necessarily good enough to get us in.
Are you getting any of this?
So you fall into the faith and works camp? Well, then by extension the sacrifice of Jesus was insufficient in itself.

Are you sure that is your final answer? I have lots of Bible quotes which say faith alone is sufficient.

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#220674 Mar 21, 2014
Aerobatty wrote:
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Cain is a fictional character in an ancient fable.
but isn't it interesting that you seem to be exhibiting his very same spiritual DNA?

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#220675 Mar 21, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Then you can't listen to a song if you already know the words.
o.O
Sorry, but your reply made no sense. Let's try again, shall we?

If God knows your fate in advance, then obviously you have no free will. If you really had free will, then you could surprise God, and God could be wrong.

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#220676 Mar 21, 2014
Aerobatty wrote:
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What do you think about equal rights?
equal rights for who/what: for theives, murders, gluttons, adulterers, fornicators...etc?

i think they should all have the equal right to repent of their destructive behavior before they perish! but, i don't think that they should have the right to bring the rest of society down with them...

“Credulity is not a virtue”

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#220677 Mar 21, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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I trust my intuition more than anything, don't you?
Objective evidence is not the answer to everything, some things just exist without having any evidence at all. You dream every night, did you dream about a boat or about flying? There's no way to objectively prove either one, but your dream did happen. Sometimes subjective evidence is the way to find the answer.
Skepticism is just doubting the truth of something. You can doubt all you want, but that confirms or denies nothing.
I trust my intuition to a degree, but certainly not more than anything. Turns out, facts are more likely to be right than intuition.

Skepticism is not simply doubting the truth of something, It is also the expectation that claims are upheld by objective evidence. You are correct that skepticism in itself does not confirm or falsify anything. It is a tool, in fact the first one that should be used, to determine whether something is true or false. Without skepticism you would simply believe everything presented to you. So everyone uses skepticism to some degree; I just don't see why one would be afraid to apply it consistently.

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#220678 Mar 21, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
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Yes, you can.
The choice cause the foreknowledge, not vice-versa.
Nope. What you are talking about is prediction, not knowledge. If God could merely predict the future based on our choices, then there would always be the possibility that God could be wrong. If God knew the future as a fact, then God would never be wrong but you would not have free-will anymore. It's really not that hard to figure out.

“Credulity is not a virtue”

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#220679 Mar 21, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
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I'm skeptical of your skepticism.
I don't think it exists.
You've never seen any evidence that I've applied skepticism before? Well, I think that get's back to those reading and comprehension issues of yours that we've discussed in the past.

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#220680 Mar 21, 2014
IPSEC wrote:
<quoted text>He was a scumbag, you know, a Fundie.
http://www.vice.com/read/fred-phelps-has-died
you mean he was a so-called 'liberal', but in reality a socialist/fascist?

dude - they're the worst fundies of ALL FUNDEMENTALIST CONTROL FREAKS!!!

they can't go a day without lobbying to pass a zillion more anal retentive laws!

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#220681 Mar 21, 2014
waaasssuuup wrote:
<quoted text>
equal rights for who/what: for theives, murders, gluttons, adulterers, fornicators...etc?
i think they should all have the equal right to repent of their destructive behavior before they perish! but, i don't think that they should have the right to bring the rest of society down with them...
Once again you make yourself the judge of others. Something that your deity explicitly forbids.

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#220682 Mar 21, 2014
wilderide wrote:
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So you fall into the faith and works camp? Well, then by extension the sacrifice of Jesus was insufficient in itself.
Are you sure that is your final answer? I have lots of Bible quotes which say faith alone is sufficient.
lol! then, you'll argue with me when i say that faith alone is sufficient!

you know ssssoooo much dude, so sssssoooo much will be required of you!

i'd get out there and start preaching the Gospel if i were you.......

“Credulity is not a virtue”

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#220683 Mar 21, 2014
waaasssuuup wrote:
<quoted text>
you mean he was a so-called 'liberal', but in reality a socialist/fascist?
dude - they're the worst fundies of ALL FUNDEMENTALIST CONTROL FREAKS!!!
they can't go a day without lobbying to pass a zillion more anal retentive laws!
I think part of the problem is that you don't have a good grasp of what terms like "liberal", "socialist", and "fascist" mean. For one thing, you lump socialism and fascism together, when those two things are polar opposites politically (socialism is left, fascism is right).

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#220684 Mar 21, 2014
wilderide wrote:
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Sorry, but your reply made no sense. Let's try again, shall we?
If God knows your fate in advance, then obviously you have no free will. If you really had free will, then you could surprise God, and God could be wrong.
Correct. But, the illusion of free will might be worth giving so that people felt important, and to decide their fate,... godlike.

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#220685 Mar 21, 2014
wilderide wrote:
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Once again you make yourself the judge of others. Something that your deity explicitly forbids.
yes, i am your judge, sir wilderide!

i hereby judge you loved of God, so much so that He sent His only Son to take your place in judgement:-)

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In the macro world.

#220686 Mar 21, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>So is my boot.
Ooooo...

Good comeback.

Your kids help you with that?

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