Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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Buck Crick

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#220204 Mar 19, 2014
Aerobatty wrote:
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... a man living in the belly of a whale, burning bushes that talk, walking on water...you know...foolish stuff.

At least they didn't fake pictures like Dr. Kettlewell.

You know,..peppered moth fake pictures,...proving Darwin,....you can still see them in the science textbooks for high school kids,...



Buck Crick

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#220205 Mar 19, 2014
ChristineM wrote:
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This was not the argument – however communism is a political concept of nationalism. Atheist is 'not theist', a rejection of belief in gods, the two are not synonymous.
However many christians (and other gobots) chose to deceive themselves solely on the basis that some forms of communism reject the church completely while others promote the state above the church thus diminishing their belief for the power of their myth. In this is the way of all modern political systems with the exception of Islam.
“A common complaint made by theists, typically those of the fundamentalist variety, is that atheism and/or humanism are essentially socialist or communist in nature. Thus, atheism and humanism should be rejected since socialism and communism are evil. Evidence indicates that bigotry and prejudice towards atheists in America is due in no small part to anti-communist activism by conservatives Christians in America, so this claimed connection has had serious consequences for American atheists.”
Read the rest at http://atheism.about.com/od/atheismmyths/a/Co...
You need to take this in perspective and consider that in China, a communist country comprising of over 50% believers of some religion or other less then 50% atheist or agnostic there are far more believers in a deity than the entire population of the united states.
And Russia, another communist country the difference is closer still to the US with over 80% of the population religious in some way compared to 13% atheist (and a few sitting on the fence)
Some of the Latin American countries have communist style governments and yet are predominantly catholic. Go figure.
Only a godbot would ignore the glaring facts
Joseph Stalin: "...There is no god".

--The historical record of killing for atheism is 182,716 times worse on an annual basis than Christianity's worst year.

--There is a 58 percent chance that an atheist leader will murder a noticeable percentage of the population over which he rules.

--Atheist crime against humanity is 18.3 million percent worse than the very worst depredation committed by Christians, even though atheists have had less than one-twentieth the number of opportunities with which to commit them.

Buck Crick

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#220206 Mar 19, 2014
ChristineM wrote:
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What is you problem?
All that electricity to you brain destroyed you cognitive abilities?
The facts have been shown REPEATEDLY you have even linked them in you replies while deliberately ignoring them, this is the buck way that we have seen often in the past. It actually makes no difference to the facts but I suppose it must make you feel better about yourself.
Stalin’s Russia 1924-53
By the time of Stalin’s death in 1953, 25000 churches had reopened along with a number of monasteries and seminaries
http://hollowverse.com/joseph-stalin/
During World War II, Stalin eased up considerably on religion. He allowed for tens of thousands of Russian Orthodox churches to reopen, adopted an official policy of tolerance toward Muslims, and re-established the hierarchy of leadership in the Russian Orthodox Church.
Svetlana Alliluyeva (Stalin’s Daughter):“It is interesting, that from all Kremlin' residents, maybe, just father believed in God.”
Svetlana Alliluyeva: Father told me that Christ existed in the past.
Svetlana Alliluyeva: In father's library, between other books, were few tomes of "Christ". I said to my father: "But Christ didn't exist!" and he answered "Oh no, Christ, surely existed."
Newsflash Christine: Atheist leaders allow churches.

"Stalin officially adopted the Russian Communist Party’s stance on religion, claiming atheism and continuing the tradition of teaching atheism in schools and propagating the idea that religion was only damaging to a perfect communist society. Stalin even took it further than his predecessor, Lenin, and initiated a nationwide campaign to destroy churches and religious property and even persecute and kill church officials. It is said that under Stalin, the Russian Orthodox Church went from 50,000 to 500 open and operating churches"

-The Religion and Political Views of Joseph Stalin

RiversideRedneck

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#220207 Mar 19, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
Imagine what a real war on Christianity would be like...
It aint necessarily so wrote:
Ask Clearwater and KiMare. They spend most of their time imagining it.
Ya, and atheists spend their time trying to make it happen.

RiversideRedneck

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#220208 Mar 19, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:

Secular does not mean "more important/more pressing belief".
Dumb ass
ChristineM wrote:
What have you been smoking? I never said it meant that, it was sued to try and clarify a the subject to you, it seems to have failed.
How’s the old ED coming along
Oh.

Another ChristineMC2 "what I didn't say" debate......

RiversideRedneck

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#220209 Mar 19, 2014
ChristineM wrote:
Mocking disability again, jeez you must be a good christian

Here is one, more or less as spoken and in the correct order.

RR “You can’t have sex with a woman”
CM “ Brave of you to admit that you can’t have sex with a woman”
Keep up retarded comments like that and I'll keep mocking you and your retarded disability.

Buck Crick

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#220210 Mar 19, 2014
ChristineM wrote:
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More buck make up ignorant BS?
You are not improving with age are you?
“You know, they are fooling us, there is no God.” as claimed by a teenage student of a teenage Stalin while studying to become a priest in the Russian Orthodox
You're funny, Christine. None of the multiple sources proving Stalin's atheism is legitimate, huh?

You wan't Stalin to be a Christian, just like you want Hitler to be a Christian.

You're wishing don't make it so, Chicklett. Here's you another one to rile over:

"The Soviet Union had a long history of state atheism, in which social success largely required individuals to profess atheism and stay away from houses of worship; this attitude was especially militant during the middle Stalinist era from 1929–1939."

Stalin took state atheism farther than Lenin. And Lenin took it a long damn way.

RiversideRedneck

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#220211 Mar 19, 2014
ChristineM wrote:
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Why limit it to a specific time, how’s about after your self imposed dates?
Ahh you won’t do that because it proves the fact that you deny – right limp dick?
http://hollowverse.com/joseph-stalin/
If you would only read the links BEFORE providing it...

From your link (right at the top of the page, too):

"Stalin was raised devout in the Greek Orthodox Church. His parents hoped he would become a priest. He became a religion-suppressing atheist instead."

Thanks for your unwitting help, ya dumb ass dyslexic.

“MEET KIKI -She Seeks Home”

Since: Oct 10

With Established Harem

#220212 Mar 19, 2014
KiMare wrote:
1. They are not really searching.
2. There is no God.
3. There is a God who does not want to know them.

Happy Lesbo wrote:
It screams, "You're not good enough. Something is inherently wrong with you. I don't care about your hopes, fears or pain. You are a reject."
This toxic rationale is the polar opposite of humanism and spirituality.
KiMare wrote:
KiMare wrote:
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It is in fact, a theist position.
You are assuming a god who considers humans distinct from other animals.
That is in fact, the assertion of Reason #1. A God who forces Himself on no one.
Darwin thought all species were part of The Tree Of Life. I agree with him. If there is a God,(s)he would not consider humans separate from other species, everything would be part of creation.

If an organism seeks this Creator and is rejected,(s)He would consider it subpar, not good enough, correct?

If all life is the perfect expression of an omnipotent Creator, nothing is faulty. Your claim that a God might not want to know something or someone means (s)He finds fault with a part of this perfect creation therefore a perfect Creator cannot be perfect.
Anon

Lakewood, OH

#220213 Mar 19, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
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At least they didn't fake pictures like Dr. Kettlewell.
You know,..peppered moth fake pictures,...proving Darwin,....you can still see them in the science textbooks for high school kids,...
Not defending the peppered moth hoax, but I've seen many pictures of the Shroud of Turin over the years. There, something new to Google...

RiversideRedneck

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#220214 Mar 19, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:

I noticed your extended post about the meaning of belief. No doubt she will not understand what your saying and accuse you of cheating on your wife (or something).
ChristineM wrote:
You ignorant moron just because you are embarrassed about having you erectiile dysfunction is no need to get all christian and nasty on me,
My bad, I thought you'd make up something about adultery, not ED.

RiversideRedneck

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#220216 Mar 19, 2014
ChristineM wrote:
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Why not, that’s what he believed at the time. And he admitted it was a mistake
Unlike you who would not dream of such a climb down.
Oh.

Einstein believed it.

o.O

RiversideRedneck

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#220217 Mar 19, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
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When did all that happen and how did I miss it?
If these events are understood by these people with these good minds, why have they never bothered to explain it to the rest of the world?
Last time they talked to me, the origin of the universe still involved a high degree of mystery, and all the evolving relied on a simple mechanism whose innovative power is widely questioned, with little demonstrative evidence to the contrary, and that's after the still mysterious introduction of life, for which no person has a clue.
The Topix Atheist! knows all...

“When you treat people as they ”

Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#220218 Mar 19, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
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Newsflash Christine: Atheist leaders allow churches.
"Stalin officially adopted the Russian Communist Party’s stance on religion, claiming atheism and continuing the tradition of teaching atheism in schools and propagating the idea that religion was only damaging to a perfect communist society. Stalin even took it further than his predecessor, Lenin, and initiated a nationwide campaign to destroy churches and religious property and even persecute and kill church officials. It is said that under Stalin, the Russian Orthodox Church went from 50,000 to 500 open and operating churches"
-The Religion and Political Views of Joseph Stalin
That not news, that’s olds and complete wrong in that it deliberately focuses on one period, cherry picks and omits the final figures.

It omits the FACT that before Stalin died he was instrumental in restoring the priesthood and 25000 churches.

RiversideRedneck

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#220219 Mar 19, 2014
Happy Lesbo wrote:
Can I call you 'friend'??..
You gotta get better at those sammiches first.

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#220220 Mar 19, 2014
ChristineM wrote:
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More buck make up ignorant BS?
You are not improving with age are you?
“You know, they are fooling us, there is no God.” as claimed by a teenage student of a teenage Stalin while studying to become a priest in the Russian Orthodox
Give Buck some credit - he's made his life much easier by creating his own reality. Words mean something different in Buckworld, facts don't matter in Buckworld...its a crazy place, but it keeps him off the streets...

“When you treat people as they ”

Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#220221 Mar 19, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
RiversideRedneck wrote:
Secular does not mean "more important/more pressing belief".
Dumb ass
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Oh.
Another ChristineMC2 "what I didn't say" debate......
Nope and I have never said it does but you are welcome to delusion yourself

Not surprising really you are a deliberately ignorant godbot with almost as much pedantism as buck and a serious ED problem,

RiversideRedneck

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#220222 Mar 19, 2014
Happy Lesbo wrote:
Can I call you 'friend'??..
There once was a nympho named Jill
who tried dynamite for a thrill.
They found her vagina
in North Carolina
and bits of her tits in Brazil.

“When you treat people as they ”

Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#220223 Mar 19, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Keep up retarded comments like that and I'll keep mocking you and your retarded disability.
Honey, you said it, not me and it seems that you protest too much

Feel free continuing your god given mockery of disability. I would expect nothing more from you. Can I ask have you kicked any cripples yet today?

How about poking the blind guy in the eye

Or chatting about sex to the guy with ED then shouting fuckit?
tricki

Douglassville, PA

#220224 Mar 19, 2014
FOOLS

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