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Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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#219858 Mar 17, 2014
Chris Clearwater wrote:
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True. It brings me back to something the poster WIP posted years ago. Paraphrasing, she said she was witness to Christian missionaries in poor nations offering food but withholding it if people didn't convert to Christ. At the time I think I said this was a lie. Still think it is because no Christian would do that. Would like to stay longer but having some computer issues. Take care.
Yeah that'd be a really garbage thing to do and I'd certainly hope nobody would try to hold attending to physical needs over someone's head to get them to convert. I can't see it being a genuine conversion under those circumstances and obviously whoever would do something like that isn't teaching the gospel properly. In the Good Samaritan, there was no strings attached to the help

(T) Peace

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#219859 Mar 17, 2014
Cool. New evidence of the Big Bang...

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Physicists have found a long-predicted twist in light from the Big Bang that represents the first image of ripples in the universe called gravitational waves, researchers announced today. The finding is direct proof of the theory of inflation, the idea that the universe expanded extremely quickly in the first fraction of a second after it was born. Whatís more, the signal is coming through much more strongly than expected, ruling out a large class of inflation models and potentially pointing the way toward new theories of physics, experts say.

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--Scientific America

On the announcement today of the discovery.

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#219860 Mar 17, 2014
Darwins Stepchild wrote:
Cool. New evidence of the Big Bang...
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Physicists have found a long-predicted twist in light from the Big Bang that represents the first image of ripples in the universe called gravitational waves, researchers announced today. The finding is direct proof of the theory of inflation, the idea that the universe expanded extremely quickly in the first fraction of a second after it was born. Whatís more, the signal is coming through much more strongly than expected, ruling out a large class of inflation models and potentially pointing the way toward new theories of physics, experts say.
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--Scientific America
On the announcement today of the discovery.
I love this discovery in that it adds some answers and validity of the big bang and yet and gives us even more questions.

It does take us that much closer to the start though and that I find fascinating.

Catcher1

Since: Sep 10

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#219861 Mar 17, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
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Just let someone walk in and not take their hat off. They'll practically tase them.
Ask any honest observer of the court. The judges and lawyers are more criminal than the defendants who stand in front of them.
No exaggeration. The judges and lawyers are crooks, from top to bottom.
You must be a Communist.

Or a traitor of some sort.

No patriotic American would besmirch our judicial officers that way.

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#219862 Mar 17, 2014
BenAdam wrote:
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I tend to agree only because of my personal experiences. Spiritual belief is a revelation that defies explanation. Right, wrong or delusion; it is something beyond the rational world and (also IMHO) need to remain that way.
"Many are called but few are chosen."
I think that means that we should not look down on those we feel "don;t get it" but rather to have compassion for them. Al the shile realizing that we may indeed be one of "The many" rather than one of "the few".
I think belief has a similar process to falling in love

You can't plan it. You can't force someone to. Someone does have to open their heart to the idea or its very unlikely. And the information and circumstances and the type of person someone is play a big role in whether that emotion is triggered. But it can't be made to happen by another person

And I think looking down on someone for believing something different is silly because people can't help what they believe. Sure there are some belief systems I find less plausible than others, some maybe to the degree that the belief system itself may seem silly to me. I find Scientology silly. But that's just how I think personally. I don't think I'm better or smarter than anyone else for believing Christianity instead

. I may find certain people undesirable even for personality reasons but I wouldn't think it made me a better person because I was in love with someone else than someone who loves the person I personally wouldn't be interested in. People can't help who they love

And I agree with the compassion. If its a belief someone has or a person they love that you think is wrong for someone and it is hurting them and you would rather see them with the 'right' person or belief then the natural reaction should be sympathy not mockery. And besides, maybe we are the ones that got it wrong.

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

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#219863 Mar 17, 2014
IPSEC wrote:
<quoted text>So, I'm a Topix atheist and I protested that your blanket recitation of the beliefs of Topix atheists were not mine, so that makes you a liar. You countered, dishonestly, actually, that the post was in response to IANS. It wasn't. It was a silly call to arms to Dipshit Crick. So, IANS answers and illustrates that they are not his statements either. You further lie and then claim you weren't responding to IANS but issuing a blanket statement of belief of Topix atheists. So, which is it, Dipshit Redneck?
You really are not very bright.
If I may...

"Atheist's Statement:

1. There is no evidence to support the existence of any deity.

2. Therefore, there is no reason to believe in any of them.

3. Therefore, I don't.

RiversideRedneck

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#219864 Mar 17, 2014
Darwins Stepchild wrote:
Cool. New evidence of the Big Bang...
Quote
Physicists have found a long-predicted twist in light from the Big Bang that represents the first image of ripples in the universe called gravitational waves, researchers announced today. The finding is direct proof of the theory of inflation, the idea that the universe expanded extremely quickly in the first fraction of a second after it was born. Whatís more, the signal is coming through much more strongly than expected, ruling out a large class of inflation models and potentially pointing the way toward new theories of physics, experts say.
End quote
--Scientific America
On the announcement today of the discovery.
And you have a blind faith in whatever a science magazine spits out, don't ya?

What researchers? What are their credentials? Do they have an agenda? Was their funding dependent of "finding" this new evidence? Where's the proof that the universe expanded extremely quickly in the first fraction of a second? Who conducted those tests?

You ask none of that. You think it's in a scientific journal, it MUST be true.

Catcher1

Since: Sep 10

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#219865 Mar 17, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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YUUUUP!
And what's up with "you can't wear shorts"??
In jury duty, a guy got kicked out and forced to reschedule because he had shorts on, like the courtroom is a place of honesty and integrity or something...
That's nothing.

In one of my cases, the court was selecting a jury from the pool of prospective jurors.

One juror got dismissed.

He was wearing a t-shirt that said, GUILTY, in large letters.

RiversideRedneck

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#219866 Mar 17, 2014
Catcher1 wrote:
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You must be a Communist.
Or a traitor of some sort.
No patriotic American would besmirch our judicial officers that way.
Even the PenisPump judge?

allnurses-breakroom.com/world-news.../okla-ju... ;

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#219867 Mar 17, 2014
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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Would you agree that irrational biases - prejudgements not based in evidence - are counterproductive and/or unjust, but that wisdom is a series of accurate judgments borne of experience rightly understood?
Is it a bias to dislike a restaurant that frequently serves bad meals served at the wrong temperature on dirty dishes? If you use the word bias that way, then rationals bias is the best way to judge things. If you reserve the meaning of the word bias only to irrational judgments, what do you call the other kind?
I agree a bias doesn't necessarily mean irrational. I simply think one should go into something objectively. And then if someone is biased for whatever reason after, that should be taken into consideration when using them as a reference. Particularly if all the reasons that went into their bias are unknown.

Lets say I provide a quote that says "illegal immigration might provide a short term boost to a local economy but in the long run its a leading cause for the crumbling of a society"

Now someone might be somewhat intrigued and inclined to take it somewhat at face value. Now what if after I told you I quoted it from a book called "dirty Mexicans - the termites of society". Would you then be more likely to think maybe that bias should have been expected and that perhaps it is a bias and not objective?

Now does it mean definitely all their conclusions are wrong? Of course not. But I would tend to take it with a grain of salt

P.S.

I'm only using Mexicans because I don't know off hand who would be a bigger demo as far as immigrants in the U.S. It literally has no other implication for why I picked that group

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#219868 Mar 17, 2014
River Tam wrote:
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That's why I only pray to Regis Philbin.
If my prayers are answered, Cool !!
If not, it's OK. He's still so cute.
Hey!!

I was gonna wait till I posted to ask Ians if you had been around!

Great to see ya!

And yeah, might as well go with good looking if all things are equal! I try to get girls to pray to me all the time! Most of them are too stuck up or think I have done sort of ego problem. They are clearly insane:)

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#219869 Mar 17, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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No.
I condone killing, in particular instances, for ACTIONS, not beliefs.
I support killing anyone who takes 30 items or more into the 15 or less express lane and then pays by check that they only decided to use because they didn't have exact change!

Ok maybe not kill. But at least it should be legal to pop one of their tires!

“let's do this thang!”

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#219870 Mar 17, 2014
Rosa_Winkel wrote:
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You're selling it cheap, rent boy.
i just don't know why we can't be friends, Rosa hon:-(

“let's do this thang!”

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#219871 Mar 17, 2014
Happy Lesbo wrote:
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.. did you miss the point of my quizzes ??..
.. since Christians advocated the enslavement of a race, promoted the vile institution, claimed Blacks were only 3/5 human and quoted the bible to substantiate their position, wouldn't it be the Christians' responsibility to overturn the inhumane doctrine ??..
.. back then, materialistic Christians held the power and atheists were a huge closeted minority, politically bankrupt. It took a Civil War, the deaths of 600,000+ soldiers, to end this vile institution invented by good Christian men like George Washington. Rest assured, some of the troops that died were atheists or humanists ..
.. before posting the drivel that Christians eliminated slavery while atheists did nothing, think your position through. Lincoln, a humanist, ended the repulsive system of slavery ..
. guffaw ..
it seems you're getting quit bigoted and blatantly antichrist with every passing year/month/day!

let me guess - philosophically you're a socio-political liberal/fascist/socialist, right?

2+2 = 4 everytime!:-)

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#219872 Mar 17, 2014
ChristineM wrote:
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And it seems that you are ignoring the facts of the matter as stated in my posts, itís not just the church who the press have a downer on.
You are focussing on the church for you own reasons. To me it doesnít really matter who the abusers are just so long as they are made an example of so potential abusers may at least think about the consequences and the abused can have the understanding that there abuses have been punished for there crimes.
Just because it is a church or a priest does not mean that it should be hidden, just the opposite in fact, justice should be seen to be done.
I haven't said anything even remotely close to it should stay hidden because its a church or priest. In fact I have said the opposite repeatedly and said any abuse in the church should be exposed and I want to see a bigger effort to expose all abuse and not just the abuse some feel is "newsworthy" because to the victims, its terrible no matter where it happened.

Maybe on the 4th try you can figure out a way to make this a disagreement? Sheesh

RiversideRedneck

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#219873 Mar 17, 2014
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>If I may...
"Atheist's Statement:
1. There is no evidence to support the existence of any deity.
2. Therefore, there is no reason to believe in any of them.
3. Therefore, I don't.
If there was evidence, there's be no reason to believe.

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#219874 Mar 17, 2014
Happy Lesbo wrote:
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.. if a member of the Yaqui tribe takes a peyote trip and has a spiritual awakening, they're told not to reveal the experience to anyone and it will acquire a life of its own, guide them mystically throughout their life ..
.. Christians are encouraged to share their personal experience, their testimony. What do you think that's all about ??..
in my estimation, HL stopped talking to me around the time when she was explaining how her super hansome & gay cousin can be attracted to females and ejaculate with them, but his "release" is much more intense with males.

to this i said something to the affect "do you mean to tell us that this narcasisitic horn-dog is holding society hostage over condoning his more intense sexual release???"

and that seems to have been the end of our cyber relationship....:-(

RiversideRedneck

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#219875 Mar 17, 2014
Catcher1 wrote:
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That's nothing.
In one of my cases, the court was selecting a jury from the pool of prospective jurors.
One juror got dismissed.
He was wearing a t-shirt that said, GUILTY, in large letters.
There's this butthole judge in the Riverside court that would've dismissed him, then make him do another jury service.

He's the same idiot judge that asks people if they have vacation time at work or how much they have in savings (when they say they can't afford to be on a jury).

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#219876 Mar 17, 2014
ChristineM wrote:
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What a load of bollocks, there are about 150 paparazzi hogging the royal family looking for farts
http://www.strangecosmos.com/content/item/117...
Sigh

Didn't pick up on the sarcasm I guess

Yes I know. That was my point. That despite your contention the UK and its people are so much more focused on stopping child abuse and don't get caught up in simply cranking out stupid "news stories" to appease the masses, I don't believe that to be the case

And I had to delete to other part because its too hard to copy quotes on my phone but you made a distinction between tabloids and more respectable journalism. So what? The tabloids wouldn't exist if there were not people in the UK that wanted to read them. So much for the idea the people in the UK care more about stopping child abuse.

Your nationalism and arrogance concerning an issue that any decent human being anywhere wants to see come to an end was just silly. But if you want to continue with the "my country cares more than yours does" attitude I guess suit yourself

RiversideRedneck

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#219877 Mar 17, 2014
Skombolis wrote:
I support killing anyone who takes 30 items or more into the 15 or less express lane and then pays by check that they only decided to use because they didn't have exact change!
Ok maybe not kill. But at least it should be legal to pop one of their tires!
HA HA!!

I support the killing of cellphones that are caught texting while driving.

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