Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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RiversideRedneck

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#218366 Mar 11, 2014
BenAdam wrote:
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If Jesus said such a thing it was more likely (as a Jew) that he said "I come to obey the Torah, not abolish it." or "I have come to fulfill the Prophets, not to abolish the Torah."
Ya but He didn't say that.

And no purfesir of University gets to rewrite it.
Chess Jurist

Columbus, OH

#218367 Mar 11, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
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Yeah. The one Pittsburgh pipes their shit into, and Ohio drinks it.
Flows right into Kentucky, dummy.

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#218368 Mar 11, 2014
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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Sorry. The bible claims that its content was authored by a deity. Writing in the sense of authorship doesn't mean putting pen to paper or papyrus. It means authoring. It doesn't matter if the bible was dictated, it only matters whose words they were. Milton, who was blind, dictated his works to his daughter. His books were written by Milton, meaning authored, and written down by his daughter, meaning transcribed.
"Above all, you must understand that no prophecy of scripture came about by the prophet’s own interpretation of things. For prophecy never had its origin in the human will, but prophets, though human, spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit." - II Peter 1:20-21 NIV
Your own bible contradicts you.
Your defense is the faith based dance of verbal sophistry. We see it every day on these threads, as with the fulfilled versus abolished matter. When you are simply wrong, have painted yourself into a corner, and are shown to have done so, your only choices are to choose the conclusion supported by the evidence and reason, or to go on defending your faith based preferences with tortured apologetics that betray the effeteness of your argument.
But it's an improvement over just bellying up.
"When the philosopher's argument becomes tedious, complicated, and opaque, it is usually a sign that he is attempting to prove as true to the intellect what is plainly false to common sense”- Edward Abbey
You probably won't think this answer is much better but to be specific, the OT is said to have been written by God putting the words in the author's mouth

The New Testament, half the translations for 2Timothy 2:13 say God-breathed and the other half sat scripture is God-inspired

Normally the vast majority of translations will say the same thing or two words with the same meaning. This particular case does kinda fall into a cattagiry I think you think exists a lot more than it does but it does exist and that is where scripture can support two different views. It may not in actuality and if I was an expert in language I could probably say which translation is more likely accurate but I have no clue. In fact I may try to research that verse as I have known about this for a while

Buck Crick

Since: May 10

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#218369 Mar 11, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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I'm 6'3", depending on what liquor store I'm walking out of.
Buck's something like 6'6".
Safe to say, we destroyed the scarves...
Don't worry, you still have Catcher's AMEX card, yes?
I'm right at 6'8. I call it 6'7 just because I'm so modest.

The boy is 7'2". 17 years old. Signed with Purdue. It's not the SEC, but at least it's not in Ohio.

http://us.yhs4.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search...

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#218370 Mar 11, 2014
Ians

I'd add I personally think its inspired or why the need for other authors or why let Peter allow Silus to help him write the first book as even many authors needed scribes but gonna look into it

Buck Crick

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#218371 Mar 11, 2014
Chess Jurist wrote:
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Flows right into Kentucky, dummy.
But only after you have drunk Pittsburgh's shit out of it.

Buck Crick

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#218372 Mar 11, 2014
Chess Jurist wrote:
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He didn't write "damages". He wrote "damage".
You must be thinking about that '82 claim involving your double-wide, huh?
Your wife seemed to like my double-wide.
Chess Jurist

Columbus, OH

#218373 Mar 11, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
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But only after you have drunk Pittsburgh's shit out of it.
Doesn't flow past Columbus, fool.

Those Kentucky schools need some improvement, huh?

“MEET KIKI -She Seeks Home”

Since: Oct 10

With Established Harem

#218374 Mar 11, 2014
lightbeamrider wrote:
<quoted text> **PORTIONS SNIPPED**Slaves could complain against their masters and masters were accountable to God for their treatment of their slaves.
.. hence, like in heaven, a religious system of hierarchy developed, right? Slaves obey your masters, women obey your husbands, kings obey God ..

.. what happens to the creatures on the low end of the totem pole, say the frog or the butterfly? Who must they obey? Or, do they have free will ??

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#218375 Mar 11, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Ya, that's IANS' idea, that the RCC produces pedophiles.
Pretty retarded...
I think he is too convinced there is some sort of central coordinated cultural ideology and message that all churches agree to perpetuate.

As we know it is much more individual than that. Even the RCC that will pretty much control that what is being taught is consistent with cannon, anything taught outside of scripture is pretty much the personal opinion of the priest

Still not sure how he thinks the church somehow creates deviant behavior but I'd imagine it is somehow connected to the overall idea that bad things are being funneled through the faith into society. In this case I honestly don't even follow the rationale

RiversideRedneck

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#218376 Mar 11, 2014
BenAdam wrote:
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RR thinks that law still applies to 'monkeys'.
Funny you should mention that.

There are more laws for the protection of monkeys than there are for the protection of unborn children.

Go figure.

“MEET KIKI -She Seeks Home”

Since: Oct 10

With Established Harem

#218377 Mar 11, 2014
Skombolis wrote:
<quoted text>In a situation when defending a friend from a violent attack or another situation?
Sociology is heavily impacted by variables such an environment, life experience, personal morality, mitigating circumstances, etc
You need to be more specific
Why would a lesbian mock someone for having sex reassignment?
.. still want me to defend, don't you ??..

.. that's in your game book, not mine ..

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#218378 Mar 11, 2014
Chess Jurist wrote:
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Flows right into Kentucky, dummy.
threads flying all of a sudden and I'm heading out soon

But let you a couples responses to the Numbers post if u get a chance to clarify

RiversideRedneck

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#218379 Mar 11, 2014
It aint necessarily so wrote:
Why? You didn't bother looking at the link.
Yes I did, I watched the video.

He took 2 pieces off of the mousetrap and changed it into a tie clip, a paperweight or a spitwad thrower.

he buried himself because he proved that the irreducible complexity of the simple mousetrap demonstrates that if you remove one of the five components, it's no longer a mousetrap.
< sound of crickets chirping >
Why? I answered you. I told you that many pieces of that arch could be removed and it'd still stand. I also told you that it's a natural thing. Learn to read entire posts.

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#218380 Mar 11, 2014
Happy Lesbo wrote:
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.. hence, like in heaven, a religious system of hierarchy developed, right? Slaves obey your masters, women obey your husbands, kings obey God ..
.. what happens to the creatures on the low end of the totem pole, say the frog or the butterfly? Who must they obey? Or, do they have free will ??
Instead of scarves you ought to move to tablecloths

At least that way you can bring something to the table

:)
Chess Jurist

Columbus, OH

#218381 Mar 11, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Funny you should mention that.
There are more laws for the protection of monkeys than there are for the protection of unborn children.
Go figure.
Well, then your unborn should be safe, eh?

“let's do this thang!”

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#218382 Mar 11, 2014
STOP THE INSANITY!

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS 'REVERSE RASCISM'- RASCISM IS RASCISM NO MATTER WHO'S BEING THE RASCIST!!!

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#218383 Mar 11, 2014
Happy Lesbo wrote:
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.. still want me to defend, don't you ??..
.. that's in your game book, not mine ..
do you rotate making your posts with a monkey and don't know what the other ones say or are you just that big of a clueless hypocrite? Every post you have made to me is trying to ask me to defend

You live in a world of denial

If this is the monkey I apologize, this post is directed at HL

:)
Chess Jurist

Columbus, OH

#218384 Mar 11, 2014
Skombolis wrote:
<quoted text>threads flying all of a sudden and I'm heading out soon
But let you a couples responses to the Numbers post if u get a chance to clarify
Numbers 31. Very aggressive, violent, even obscene, unless you want to pretend the Midianite virgins were merely passed around for domestic chores. INT? Relatively passive. Punishment will await those in the afterlife. The canon tends to follow reality on the ground at the time of its writing.

Buck Crick

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#218385 Mar 11, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Yes I did, I watched the video.
He took 2 pieces off of the mousetrap and changed it into a tie clip, a paperweight or a spitwad thrower.
he buried himself because he proved that the irreducible complexity of the simple mousetrap demonstrates that if you remove one of the five components, it's no longer a mousetrap.
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Why? I answered you. I told you that many pieces of that arch could be removed and it'd still stand. I also told you that it's a natural thing. Learn to read entire posts.
Miller's example took an already complex system and made it less complex.

IC doesn't say anything about whether you can go from a functioning complex system to a functioning simpler one.

IC also says nothing about whether component parts can have a function.

The Behe mousetrap analogy assumes what evolution assumes - sequential addition from simple to complex.

Miller's story amounts to the same as proving a feather could evolve sequentially by taking a complete feather, stripping it, and using the shaft for a toothpick.

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