Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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RiversideRedneck

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#217332 Mar 6, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
Really? I thought RR got the better of the exchange. HFY's defense of Harris was preposterous.
As for me, I annihilated her as usual.
Remember when Feltcher1 used to be funny, witty and not always up in your face?

No, neither do I.

“Turning coffee into theorems”

Since: Dec 06

Trapped inside a Klein Bottle

#217333 Mar 6, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
RiversideRedneck wrote:
The Bible does not instruct a Christian to kill.
<quoted text>
No it doesn't.
<quoted text>
The Bible does not instruct a Christian to kill.
I know you've been to the googlers about this....
There you go, cherry picking the Bible again.

RiversideRedneck

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#217334 Mar 6, 2014
Darwins Stepchild wrote:
No, RR, I did not say there was "no evidence". I said there was "no fossil evidence", which is different. There is evidence, particularly in the form of DNA.
But then, I guess you would think that if there was no fingerprint evidence in a trial you would conclude there was no evidence whatsoever.
Please, enlighten me. Show this evidence of your mysterious common ancestor, "LUCA".

RiversideRedneck

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#217335 Mar 6, 2014
Darwins Stepchild wrote:
RR, YOU cherry pick the Bible. Every Christian I have ever met does.
My cherry picking is more like cherry picking through a lumber pile to pick the best.

Topix Atheist! cherry picking is more like nit picking or painting with a broad brush.

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#217336 Mar 6, 2014
Darwins Stepchild wrote:
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Yeah. Note the "as long as the quoted words convey the same meaning" part. What you have been doing does not convey the same meaning.
That means you are misquoting.
BTW...If you actually read the whole quote...and made an effort to understand it...what you said about Al Qaeda shows you think the same thing as Harris does on the subject.
You're an idiot. My quotes, and those of David Barton, conveyed the exact same meaning as the original. And they would not be "misquotes" even if they did not. They would be a fallacy of deleted context, which has a name I cannot recall at this moment.

I read Harris' whole quote, which is out of context, according to you, which makes it a "misquote", according to you. To avoid being a misquote, it would have to quote the whole book, according to you.

He suggests killing for thoughts is justifiable. I suggested killing in response to actions is justifiable.

Not the same thing. Endeavor to be less of an idiot.

RiversideRedneck

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#217337 Mar 6, 2014
River Tam wrote:
Are you saying his peepee is cute?
No sir. I'm saying he thinks it is.

RiversideRedneck

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#217338 Mar 6, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:

The Bible does not instruct a Christian to kill.
<quoted text>
No it doesn't.
<quoted text>
The Bible does not instruct a Christian to kill.
I know you've been to the googlers about this....
Darwins Stepchild wrote:
There you go, cherry picking the Bible again.
Where was the cherry picking there, Dilbert?

And why did you not criticize Hiding for cherry picking Deuteronomy like she did?

RiversideRedneck

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#217339 Mar 6, 2014
Catcher1 wrote:
At ease, Redneck.
I think Hiding is gone.
Now pick yourself up, dust yourself off, clean the blood off your face, take a deep breath, and try to pull yourself together.
Ok, don't lie.

I know you didn't think.

Since: May 10

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#217340 Mar 6, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Remember when Feltcher1 used to be funny, witty and not always up in your face?
No, neither do I.
There is a sort of atheist fan club around Hiding, because she has some academic bonafides in biology and anthropology. She's not very bright, from a logical and rhetorical standpoint. But she's able to swing around a lot of technical jargon, which impresses them.

She and I have a long history. We went at it for weeks on Intelligent Design.

I beat her till her hide wouldn't hold corn shucks, and forced her to retract half the assertions she made about the science of ID.

She'll take the opposite of any position I take, just for spite. Fun stuff.

“Turning coffee into theorems”

Since: Dec 06

Trapped inside a Klein Bottle

#217341 Mar 6, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
Killing a man for his beliefs cannot be justified.
Agree?
So you are saying God was wrong to tell people to kill an entire village if one person in it believed in a different god? Or is killing an entire village for one man's belief justified?

See Deuteronomy 13:13-19.

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#217342 Mar 6, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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1. Beliefs are not actions. Actions are not beliefs. While it's true that our actions can be based on our beliefs and vice versa, the two are totally different things.
Killing a man for actions can be justified.
Killing a man for his beliefs cannot be justified.
Agree?
2. Harris is talking about his opinion that beliefs, propositions, can be so dangerous to others, a preemptive murder is justifiable to save others. As I said, that's tantamount to insanity. I can see no justifiable reason to kill someone for their thoughts, beliefs, ideas, propositions, plans, etc.
Your analysis is 100% accurate.

Catcher1

Since: Sep 10

Fremont, CA

#217343 Mar 6, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
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Really? I thought RR got the better of the exchange. HFY's defense of Harris was preposterous.
As for me, I annihilated her as usual.
Give RR a hug for me, will you?

And tell me, with Dave's departure, is the Redneck now the second smartest person on the thread?

“Turning coffee into theorems”

Since: Dec 06

Trapped inside a Klein Bottle

#217344 Mar 6, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
You're an idiot. My quotes, and those of David Barton, conveyed the exact same meaning as the original. And they would not be "misquotes" even if they did not. They would be a fallacy of deleted context, which has a name I cannot recall at this moment.
I read Harris' whole quote, which is out of context, according to you, which makes it a "misquote", according to you. To avoid being a misquote, it would have to quote the whole book, according to you.
He suggests killing for thoughts is justifiable. I suggested killing in response to actions is justifiable.
Not the same thing. Endeavor to be less of an idiot.
BS...pure and simple. But you will never see it. Something is broken in your brain. Likely an extreme version of antiprocess.

In other words, it goes in one ear and out the other.

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#217345 Mar 6, 2014
Darwins Stepchild wrote:
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RR, YOU cherry pick the Bible. Every Christian I have ever met does.
While the majority of Christians don;t know anything about the Bible or Christianity, Topix Christ-Stains like RR and others nake stuff up and pass it off as "The word of God".

In reality, these Topix Christians are pretending to be God themselves.

“Turning coffee into theorems”

Since: Dec 06

Trapped inside a Klein Bottle

#217346 Mar 6, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
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Your analysis is 100% accurate.
So you agree, when God ordered the killing of people because of their belief he was wrong.

Catcher1

Since: Sep 10

Fremont, CA

#217347 Mar 6, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Remember when Feltcher1 used to be funny, witty and not always up in your face?
No, neither do I.
That's because your memory is weak.

And the the result is that you continually change the facts in your stories.

This is what happened to you with the circumstances of your violence toward a six-month-old baby, your physical attack on your wife, and your assault with a club on a helpless motorist.

Fortunately for the rest of us, you wrote what you wrote and we remember what you wrote.

Have you dusted yourself off yet, as I advised?

RiversideRedneck

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Since: Jul 12

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#217348 Mar 6, 2014
Darwins Stepchild wrote:
<quoted text>
So you are saying God was wrong to tell people to kill an entire village if one person in it believed in a different god? Or is killing an entire village for one man's belief justified?
See Deuteronomy 13:13-19.
There you go nit picking again.....

Catcher1

Since: Sep 10

Fremont, CA

#217349 Mar 6, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
There is a sort of atheist fan club around Hiding, because she has some academic bonafides in biology and anthropology. She's not very bright, from a logical and rhetorical standpoint. But she's able to swing around a lot of technical jargon, which impresses them.
She and I have a long history. We went at it for weeks on Intelligent Design.
I beat her till her hide wouldn't hold corn shucks, and forced her to retract half the assertions she made about the science of ID.
She'll take the opposite of any position I take, just for spite. Fun stuff.
The science of Intelligent Design.

Justice Scalia.

Two of my favorite oxymorons.

“ad victoriam”

Since: Dec 10

arte et marte

#217350 Mar 6, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
What better justice for killing a known terrorist is killing him?
If we resort to this, then governments can kill anyone without trial and say anything was the reason.
Cowboy justice only works under very extreme circumstances , as there is much potential for the abuse and circumvention of justice than there is the application of justice.
Which in short means that desperate measures only work in desperate situations, and they should never become normal.

Catcher1

Since: Sep 10

Fremont, CA

#217351 Mar 6, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
Your analysis is 100% accurate.
Thanks, man.

I knew you'd come around.

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