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Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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“It's just a box of rain...”

Since: May 07

Knoxville, TN

#216249 Mar 2, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
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Are you also one of those who defends him for lying about being able to keep our health care plan?
No. I don't defend Obama in any way--I leave that to people who are much more interested in politics than I am. But I am a bit of a stickler for accuracy. Obama did not promise to lower the ocean's level. He did not even promise to slow the rate by himself. Rather, he expressed confidence the the ability and will of Americans as a whole to do so and belief that this decade would be seen in the future as the time when that change began to take place. That's not the same thing as promising to lower sea levels during his administration. I think that you are allowing your animosity to blind you and keep you from seeing your own error in this matter.

Buck Crick

Since: May 10

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#216250 Mar 2, 2014
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>Kind of a shame that Theists don't have such an elegant spokesman as the brilliant Sam Harris. The best you guys can do are idiots like Ken Hovin and William Lane Craig.
There are other coming up to fill the gap that Christopher Hitchens left, Matt Dillahunty for one, a brilliant young Atheists who host the Atheist Experience out of Austin Texas. His specialty is destroying young earth creationists. He chews em up, and spits em out, really fun to watch.
Almost forgot,...

I heard Dennis Prager make a complete fool of Sam Harris debating him on the radio. Sam should have worn a dunce hat.

“LOL Really?”

Since: Oct 10

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#216251 Mar 2, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
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Are you also one of those who defends him for lying about being able to keep our health care plan?
Things change, Buck.

Should I play the end of the Auburn/Alabama game again?

Adapt or pray.

“Turning coffee into theorems”

Since: Dec 06

Trapped inside a Klein Bottle

#216252 Mar 2, 2014
NightSerf wrote:
<quoted text>No. I don't defend Obama in any way--I leave that to people who are much more interested in politics than I am. But I am a bit of a stickler for accuracy. Obama did not promise to lower the ocean's level. He did not even promise to slow the rate by himself. Rather, he expressed confidence the the ability and will of Americans as a whole to do so and belief that this decade would be seen in the future as the time when that change began to take place. That's not the same thing as promising to lower sea levels during his administration. I think that you are allowing your animosity to blind you and keep you from seeing your own error in this matter.
It is the same thing in Buck's mind. But then, he doesn't understand subtleties of difference. To him, 2 million people leaving their jobs so that other people can take them is the same as destroying 2 million jobs.

Buck watches way too much Fox News. And he thinks they are right on everything they say.

“LOL Really?”

Since: Oct 10

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#216253 Mar 2, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
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You are big on "evidence", as with your claim that dinosaurs had no DNA.
--The historical record of killing for atheism is 182,716 times worse on an annual basis than Christianity's worst year.
--There is a 58 percent chance that an atheist leader will murder a noticeable percentage of the population over which he rules.
--Atheist crime against humanity is 18.3 million percent worse than the very worst depredation committed by Christians, even though atheists have had less than one-twentieth the number of opportunities with which to commit them.
Nobody has ever killed for atheism.

Hope that helps.

“Turning coffee into theorems”

Since: Dec 06

Trapped inside a Klein Bottle

#216254 Mar 2, 2014
Buck probably thinks Ken Ham trounced Bill Nye as well.

Buck Crick

Since: May 10

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#216255 Mar 2, 2014
River Tam wrote:
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Nobody has ever killed for atheism.
Hope that helps.
All the religions of the world put together have in 3,000 years not managed to kill anywhere near the number of people killed in the name of atheism in the ninety years between 1917 and 2007.

The body count for that ninety years is approximately 148 million killed for atheism, three times more than all the human beings killed by war, civil war, and individual crime in the entire twentieth century combined.

That particular killing for atheism is 18.3 million percent worse than the very worst example of killing by Christians,

Buck Crick

Since: May 10

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#216256 Mar 2, 2014
Darwins Stepchild wrote:
Buck probably thinks Ken Ham trounced Bill Nye as well.
Red Herring.

In football they call that a misdirection play.

On Topix, it's called just being a stupid atheist. This does not mean all atheists are stupid - just most of the ones on Topix, and particularly, the one I'm responding to here.

Got any more great Crockthorton research for us? Did Crockthorton ever concede that a Catholic mission might do mission work? I know that was a big objection for him.

Buck Crick

Since: May 10

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#216257 Mar 3, 2014
Darwins Stepchild wrote:
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It is the same thing in Buck's mind. But then, he doesn't understand subtleties of difference. To him, 2 million people leaving their jobs so that other people can take them is the same as destroying 2 million jobs.
Buck watches way too much Fox News. And he thinks they are right on everything they say.
Yeah. I think a loss of 2 million jobs is a loss of 2 million jobs.

I'm funny that way.

“LOL Really?”

Since: Oct 10

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#216258 Mar 3, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
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All the religions of the world put together have in 3,000 years not managed to kill anywhere near the number of people killed in the name of atheism in the ninety years between 1917 and 2007.
The body count for that ninety years is approximately 148 million killed for atheism, three times more than all the human beings killed by war, civil war, and individual crime in the entire twentieth century combined.
That particular killing for atheism is 18.3 million percent worse than the very worst example of killing by Christians,
Nobody has ever killed for a non belief in deities just like nobody has ever killed for a non belief in tree pixies.

Hope that helps.

Buck Crick

Since: May 10

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#216259 Mar 3, 2014
River Tam wrote:
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Things change, Buck.
Should I play the end of the Auburn/Alabama game again?
Adapt or pray.
Things change? It was a lie when he said it. Something changing had nothing to do with it.

They had already written the regs that would cause the cancellations, and they knew it, and discussed it, before Obama repeated the promise over and over.

Not to mention a republican senator introduced a bill in response that would allow people to keep their plan, as they all knew about the impending cancellations, and the democrats voted it down.

It was a flat out lie. It was not even a broken promise. It was a lie from the start.

“LOL Really?”

Since: Oct 10

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#216260 Mar 3, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
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Things change? It was a lie when he said it. Something changing had nothing to do with it.
They had already written the regs that would cause the cancellations, and they knew it, and discussed it, before Obama repeated the promise over and over.
Not to mention a republican senator introduced a bill in response that would allow people to keep their plan, as they all knew about the impending cancellations, and the democrats voted it down.
It was a flat out lie. It was not even a broken promise. It was a lie from the start.
It's the government, Buck.

Take your ankle bracelet off and call 911.

Let's see how good they are.
tricki

Watsontown, PA

#216261 Mar 3, 2014
River Tam wrote:
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Nobody has ever killed for atheism.
Hope that helps.
PROVE IT

no atheist has killed for immoral purposes. Dorothy has an incredible capacity for self-pity and living under a dark cloud

Buck Crick

Since: May 10

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#216262 Mar 3, 2014
NightSerf wrote:
<quoted text>No. I don't defend Obama in any way--I leave that to people who are much more interested in politics than I am. But I am a bit of a stickler for accuracy. Obama did not promise to lower the ocean's level. He did not even promise to slow the rate by himself. Rather, he expressed confidence the the ability and will of Americans as a whole to do so and belief that this decade would be seen in the future as the time when that change began to take place. That's not the same thing as promising to lower sea levels during his administration. I think that you are allowing your animosity to blind you and keep you from seeing your own error in this matter.
So Obama was predicting that, by electing him, somebody else would cause the sea level to be lower?

No, you are not much of a stickler for accuracy. You are a stickler for deflection, in this case.

Obama absolutely promised to lower the sea level. He stated, in the context of the momentous incident of his becoming president, "the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal".

If the rise of the ocean slows, then the sea level is LOWER than it is without him. And we will look back, according to Obama, on "this moment" as when it began to happen. What was happening in that "moment"? He was becoming president.

That is an absolute, flat-out promise to lower the sea level, no matter the means or the assistance he might require to accomplish it. He promised to lower it. We will know it began at that moment. Because of him.

Tapdance to it any way you like.

Buck Crick

Since: May 10

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#216263 Mar 3, 2014
River Tam wrote:
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It's the government, Buck.
Take your ankle bracelet off and call 911.
Let's see how good they are.
Oh. It's the government.

Then march your liberal ass out to California, stop at Nixon's grave, and apologize.

Tell him now you know it was just the government.

“LOL Really?”

Since: Oct 10

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#216264 Mar 3, 2014
tricki wrote:
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PROVE IT
no atheist has killed for immoral purposes. Dorothy has an incredible capacity for self-pity and living under a dark cloud
Hush, tard.

“LOL Really?”

Since: Oct 10

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#216265 Mar 3, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
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Oh. It's the government.
Then march your liberal ass out to California, stop at Nixon's grave, and apologize.
Tell him now you know it was just the government.
Who is Nixon?

What year is this?

Things change, Buck.

Buck Crick

Since: May 10

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#216266 Mar 3, 2014
River Tam wrote:
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Nobody has ever killed for a non belief in deities just like nobody has ever killed for a non belief in tree pixies.
Hope that helps.
Atheism is not a non-belief.

"The Communist Party is to oppose religion and to fight for the full victory of atheism.

--The Great Soviet Encyclopedia (Moscow, USSR)

If the USSR was "fighting for the full victory of atheism", and people were killed, how were they fighting for atheism but not killing for atheism?

Can you explain that?

I can explain it for you. You are a liar and a moron. That's the explanation.

Buck Crick

Since: May 10

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#216267 Mar 3, 2014
River Tam wrote:
<quoted text>
Nobody has ever killed for atheism.
Hope that helps.
"A Marxist must be a materialist, i. e., an enemy of religion, but a dialectical materialist, i. e., one who treats the struggle against religion not in an abstract way, not on the basis of remote, purely theoretical, never varying preaching, but in a concrete way, on the basis of the class struggle which is going on in practice and is educating the masses more and better than anything else could."

- Vladimir Lenin

What was the "concrete way" of advancing atheism?

In the first five years after the October Revolution, 28 bishops and 1,200 priests were murdered, many on the orders of Leon Trotsky. When Joseph Stalin came to power in 1927, he ordered his secret police, under Genrikh Yagoda to intensify persecution of Christians. In the next few years, 50,000 clergy were murdered, many were tortured, including some by crucifixion.

Nobody has ever killed for atheism? Good luck with that one, Rivet Tampon.

Buck Crick

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#216268 Mar 3, 2014
River Tam wrote:
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Who is Nixon?
What year is this?
Things change, Buck.
When a liberal is in office, your principles change.

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