Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent. Read more

“Ditat Deus”

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#215856 Mar 1, 2014
Happy Lesbo wrote:

.. it's not irrelevant ..
.. whether I agree or disagree with your synopsis of the bible is irrelevant ..
True but I wanted your opinion on it.
.. I'm trying to get to something here, a statement made by a friend; I'm asking for your help. If you don't want to answer, I'm OK with that but I'll try once again ..
.. who taught you that interpretation of the bible ??..
There's no "who" that taught me that. There's many "whos", including me.

It's an interpretation strengthened by over 30 years of steady Bible study.

“Ditat Deus”

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#215857 Mar 1, 2014
BenAdam wrote:
Correct. I have a vast education.
Ya I've seen your "proof" right there on online.

Can't refute that.

"They can't put anything on the Internet that isn't true."

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#215858 Mar 1, 2014
KiMare wrote:
Please equate the fundamental belief systems and the death counts. Smirk.
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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the fundamental belief systems = the death counts
Ah, now the 'rational humanist' oxymoron reverts to childish playing stupid.

Damn, that's just plain embarrassing!!!

It Isn't Benny, it's Dumb and Dumber!

Snicker.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#215859 Mar 1, 2014
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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Your wife? I thought you believed in one man - one woman marriages. You've got that much covered by yourself.
And now the 'rational humanist' oxymoron reverts to personal attacks to avoid a reasoned response.

Your credibility is digging a hole to China with that sink rate...

Snicker.

“Ditat Deus”

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#215860 Mar 1, 2014
macumazahn wrote:
Jawohl, mein Kommandant.
Jowls mine Kombat to you too, my friend.

“Ditat Deus”

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#215861 Mar 1, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
If Stalin's atheism has a god, then humanism can have a god.
Humanists are not injected with immunizing agents against narcissism, nor are they immunized against being morally wrong.
Joe Stalin and Sam Harris are both narcissists, and both morally wrong. In fact, Stalin had already adopted some of the secular humanism advocated much later by Harris. Besides Harris' advocating murdering people preemptively for their religious views, as did Stalin, he bases objective morality on human flourishing.
Joe had his ideas about human flourishing. It required the inconvenient willingness to kill, torture, and imprison a shit load of people. That was his version of secular humanism.
Harris would move more slowly, I suspect.
Nice.

I heard a whip cracking.

What's that sound? Is it crack? Snap? Wh-tch? Whop-eesh?

I think Wh-tch! works best.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#215862 Mar 1, 2014
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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They are both authoritarian ideologies centered about larger than life, narcissistic, angry, genocidal personalities that demand unconditional obedience under threat of torture and death. You call Stalin an atheist because he wouldn't tolerate the worship of any other gods but himself - just like Yahweh.
Humanism, which respects freedom and free will, deplores them both, and they both deplore(d) everything that humanism stands for.
Sorry, but Stalinism is just another religion with a human god.
1. You point blank lie. Christianity doesn't threaten death.

2. You lie about Stalin. He didn't demand worship. Communism is a humanistic ideology that rejects worship.

3. The proof is in the pudding, and that is why you keep avoiding the actual comparison of outcomes. It exposes you as a 'rational humanist' oxymoron.

Now make a childish, silly stupid comment like a good atheist.

Smirk.

Since: Sep 10

Long Beach, CA

#215863 Mar 1, 2014
lightbeamrider wrote:
<quoted text> Your response and your history is all I have to go by. Mostly your response. I referenced you a link and in response you made it about me. I follow authority. First off I follow legitimate authority. Illegitimate authority is to be resisted. Legitimate authority positions is abrogated through abuses. The link provided plus the posts by RR etc is sufficient if the material is studied. Otherwise you might explain exactly what you do not understand given the material presented. As opposed to a vague statement about following authority.
Your exchange with RR and the search of his son's backpack is an example. Evidently you do not approve and insinuate it might be an abuse of authority. On the other hand RR claims authority over his son and that includes the search of his backpack. RR knows his son and we do not. RR is responsible for his son and we are not.
The Redneck is brainwashed, by religion.

You are also brainwashed, by the military.

Your authoritarian personality, coupled with the brainwashing, makes you perfect for the military/Christianity complex.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#215864 Mar 1, 2014
BenAdam wrote:
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Correct. I have a vast education.
LOL.

Yeah, that's real obvious...

Snicker.

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#215865 Mar 1, 2014
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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You've got that nanny state stuff backwards. Nannies tell you who can't have an abortion, who can't get birth control through their health insurance, who can't marry who, who can't end their own lives or get help doing so, etc..
Liberals support freedom in all of those areas.
Liberals oppose freedom. You are confusing freedom with radical autonomy and escape from responsibility in the case of abortion, and entitlement to other peoples money in the case of free birth control.

Worded properly, liberals are for a Nanny State, shirking of responsibility, and the right to confiscate the property of others.

“Ditat Deus”

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#215866 Mar 1, 2014
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> Not anymore it isn't.
See Romans 13.

http://mobile.biblegateway.com/passage/...

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#215867 Mar 1, 2014
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> Not anymore it isn't.
When was it?

Was it two years ago when Obama opposed same-sex marriage?

Since: Sep 10

Long Beach, CA

#215868 Mar 1, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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I disagree. You're saying "I trust you but I'm always watching and protecting you".
I think a parent have every right to know their kid's business and to be a part of it. I have 100% access to their computers and idevices (none of which have Internet service, except when they're in a free wifi area). They have no lock on their door and never will.
If they or anyone ekes sees is as distrust, that's their problem. I see it as protecting. Kids will not tell you everything no matter what agreement or trust you think you have with them.
I employ a very open platform for kids and have even rewarded them for honesty when they've done something wrong and copped to it.
<quoted text>
I totally agree with you here. Openness, honesty and security builds a strong and lasting relationship between parent and child.
Good strategy, Redneck.

But remember, if all else fails, beat the crap out of your kids.

It's the 'Merkin way, isn't it?

Since: Sep 10

Long Beach, CA

#215869 Mar 1, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Too big of a word for ya?
No, it's easy word.

I don't understand the relevance though.

In other words, what the f*ck are you talking about?

“Ditat Deus”

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#215871 Mar 1, 2014
Catcher1 wrote:
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Good strategy, Redneck.
But remember, if all else fails, beat the crap out of your kids.
It's the 'Merkin way, isn't it?
Dunno, I've never beat the crap outta my kids.

What's it like?
tricki

Philadelphia, PA

#215873 Mar 1, 2014
BenAdam wrote:
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Yes.
When a book is proven to contain lies and errors it's entire contents is suspect.
'John' is proven to be full of errors and lies.
Only deluded people that think "The Bible" was written by God argue against that FACT.
"The Bible" didn't exist until 300 years after Jesus died.
liar. no proof
tricki

Philadelphia, PA

#215874 Mar 1, 2014
what is true in the bible? anything? don't answer. think.

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#215875 Mar 1, 2014
Aerobatty wrote:
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Moses lived on the same street as my sister.
I loved him in "Planet of the Apes".
tricki

Philadelphia, PA

#215876 Mar 1, 2014
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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Yes. They are both authoritarian ideologies centered about larger than life, narcissistic, angry, genocidal personalities that demand unconditional obedience under threat of torture and death. You call Stalin an atheist because he wouldn't tolerate the worship of any other gods but himself - just like Yahweh.
Humanism, which respects freedom and free will, deplores them both, and they both deplore(d) everything that humanism stands for.
Sorry, but Stalinism is just another religion with a human god.
god is larger than life. you are narcissistic, he is not genocidal and he has never demanded anything resembling unconditional obedience. stalin wasn't worthy of sqwat. god is worthy to be adored.

“Turning coffee into theorems”

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#215877 Mar 1, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
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Oh. I'm so sorry, Darwin's Pecker Flecker.
Just to remind you...
Buck Crick wrote:
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I conclude from being on this thread the the quantity of hate people will pour onto a person is directly proportional to his effectiveness at annihilating their arguments.
Thanx for the hate, Buck.
Buck Crick wrote:
So the high gas prices and high taxes in California are made up by Fox.
Did I say they were? No, but they are right wing talking points, a very simplistic view of the issues. For example, among other things the higher taxes in CA pay for what is arguably the finest higher education system in the world.

Oh...sorry...I forgot you hate all them edumacated people.
Buck Crick wrote:
For sure, then, Detroit's bankruptcy was also made up by Fox. That Liberal Laboratory of Economics was actually a glowing success!!
Buck, you are engaging in an argument of the excluded middle. You are saying that because Fox sometimes tells the truth, they always tell the truth. So you are claiming that it is either all lies or all truth?

You aren't very good at logic, are you. Idiot.
Buck Crick wrote:
My sincere apologies to you and the moonbats of California. I should have gone out there myself so I would know they have low taxes and low gas prices, and not many illegal Mexicans driving drunk.
Ah...and Buck throws in a bit of racism besides.
Buck Crick wrote:
Thanks, man. Any more of my naive assumptions you would like to dispell?
Don't tell me. Obama didn't tell us we could keep our health plan!
Damn you Fox!!!
Oh, my. A tiny percentage can't keep their health plan...because it doesn't meet the standards. So in a very rhetorical way, yeah...Obama wasn't on the mark. But then, there are all those reports coming out of right wing sites that turn out to be actors telling stories that never happened.

Nah...no dishonesty coming out of conservatives.[/sarcasm]

Oh, and there is that Fox News report about ACA destroying 2 million jobs. Pure BS. Straight from Fox News.

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