Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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“LOL Really?”

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#214391 Feb 23, 2014
Tide with Beach wrote:
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The design wasn't intelligent enough.
I almost got the Herpes vaccine.

The doctor wanted me to take it anally. I'm holding out for the oral dose.

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#214392 Feb 23, 2014
River Tam wrote:
I almost got the Herpes vaccine.
The doctor wanted me to take it anally. I'm holding out for the oral dose.
I think a good nonstick spray would keep the crotch critters from nesting.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#214393 Feb 24, 2014
HipGnosis wrote:
<quoted text>You may have been out of the loop, but you got the overview spot-on. Politicians of all stripes have been marching out healthcare reform in every election cycle since at least Nixon. Then, after every election, it was set back on the campaign shelf. Finally a politician was willing to fight for it, although his follow-thru left something to be desired. The original proposal included some kind of universal coverage, marginally subsidized. On it went to committee for "reconciliation". Every single item in dispute today, inc. the individual mandate, were conservative conceptions. The result was the mongrel we have today, which in one sense, is the hallmark of democracy, you might say - mongrel legislation that no one likes. Interestingly enough, no sooner did it leave committee but conservatives fought against it. It was almost like it was staged, yaknow?

Did you ever notice that when people talk about losing jobs overseas because "those people" work for less than fat, lazy American workers, they rarely mention that "those people" very often enjoy universal healthcare?
Thanks for all of that.

I'm just a little amazed at the conservative voters complaining about the holes in the final package that it seems they supported creating. It seems like conservative citizens supported conservative politicians as they did major surgery on the original concept until it served nobody but the insurers, and are now complaining about the final package and blaming Obama.

Staged, huh? As in Obama was complicit and just acting? I don't know how to judge that. However, I don't think you can be too cynical about American government.

In any event, as I indicated earlier, I have a tough time feeling empathy for anybody that didn't support some form of universal coverage, and then goes under for lack of it.

As for listening to Americans complaining about "those people" or any other conservative meme, I seldom do for more than a few seconds. I find it all very much a turn-off and prefer to turn away from it. It was a source of anger and frustration when I was living and working in the States, which was all of my life until five years ago, when my wife and I expatriated, in large part because we didn't want to be immersed in that or even hear it. From this vantage point, it's no longer an emotional issue, and not terribly relevant any more either.

I feel some misgivings about my attitude, but it's an adaptation that helped us restore equanimity to our lives.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

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#214394 Feb 24, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
You cannot blame conservatives in any way for this trainwreck reform. It was passed without one republican vote in either house, and still required bribing of democrats in conservative states with kickbacks, and then still required breaking the rules to allow it through the Senate under reconciliation, then still required a Supreme Court Chief Justice to lie about it being constitutional, so much so that the swing-vote, Kennedy, openly ridiculed him. Nope. This new unconstitutional, job-killing welfare entitlement is a liberal democrat baby. Hope they choke on it.
This is the infighting that I don't miss. You can't escape it from within, or I couldn't. I believe that you have to extricate yourself from it if you want it to stop.

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#214395 Feb 24, 2014
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>Ever notice, and I'm sure you haven't that there is nothing in the bible that could have been authored by any 1st century person?
That is a claim and the burden of proof lies with the person making the claim. So you are saying the no 1st century person wrote anything from the Bible? Paul?
Pages and pages about animal sacrifices, how to keep slaves,who to kill and why. Here is a book supposedly written by a loving and compassionate deity, the most important book of all, with important messages to all of humanity, yet it contains nothing relevant of useful for the 21st century Nothing about electricity, DNA, the principals of infectious diseases.
Just how useful is the knowledge of DNA? Does any ancient literature address DNA? Under that scenario Darwin is useless also. Disease is addressed, prevention is key through healthy diets and hygene. Lagoon when it comes to ancient literature you just don't know what you are talking about..

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

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#214396 Feb 24, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
True. You can still find believers of global warming.
And deniers.

So how has your winter been, Buck?

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#214397 Feb 24, 2014
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
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Yes-- anyone who's world view included "I will pray for you" as other than an insane idea, is ...
... insane.
LOL, yeah, "I will pray for you" is right up there with "I'm from the government and I'm here to help you."

Another epic fail/hate/bigotry from 'rational atheists'...

Snicker.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#214398 Feb 24, 2014
scaritual wrote:
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Moving the goal posts is just that.
Have fun with your pigeon chess games.
How did I move the goal post?

Smile.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#214399 Feb 24, 2014
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
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Ar rA thinks his god **deliberately** creates each and every fetus.
Even the accidental ones....
... his god is kind of a d*ck like that...
<laffin>
I think the 'd*ck' is the one that 'accidentaly' fell into a vagina knowing what would happen.

Then murdered an unborn child to cover their 'accident'.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

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Fennario

#214400 Feb 24, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
You showed no compassion when you told me to burn and throw away my Bible. You may think you did, but you didn't.
I have no compassion for inanimate objects or abstractions. Do you?
RiversideRedneck wrote:
You show hatred and bigotry.
One cannot be bigoted against an idea. And wanting to see the church's influence diminished is not hatred.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
It's a shame you can't understand that.
Ditto.

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#214401 Feb 24, 2014
KiMare wrote:
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I think the 'd*ck' is the one that 'accidentaly' fell into a vagina knowing what would happen.
Then murdered an unborn child to cover their 'accident'.
You're using up the bandwidth with shit.

Splat

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#214402 Feb 24, 2014
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
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Why, indeed? Dead is dead-- regardless if the victim died because of islam, christianity or judaism.
The outcome of each of these is functionally indistinguishable from the others-- they each promote a "them or us" false dichotomy.
Wow, "Functionally indistinguishable" from Islam? Are you really that stupid? This from a 'rational atheist' who just got done defending the murder of 50 million babies???

ONE bombing in Baghdad (over three dozen there last week alone) exceeded the total death toll of your classic go to Salem witch trials.

Do you understand the degree of blind hate/bigotry/ignorance it takes to conscientiously make such an outrageous claim???

Sad and sick dude.
tricki

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#214403 Feb 24, 2014
dear god, have mercy on this poor boob, Bob of Quantum-Faith. she has no idea.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#214404 Feb 24, 2014
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
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I agree entirely, here.
If we can get it away from strong influence, then the rest will follow naturally.
You are on a stupidity roll.

Violate the very First Amendment? This is the 'tolerance' you are promoting???

Once again, we see the classic example of where 'rational atheism' will take a country.

It is why not one of you girls have been able to post your poster child atheistic country.

Smirk.
tricki

Birdsboro, PA

#214405 Feb 24, 2014
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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I have no compassion for inanimate objects or abstractions. Do you?
<quoted text>
One cannot be bigoted against an idea. And wanting to see the church's influence diminished is not hatred.
<quoted text>
Ditto.
dear god, this nutjob is beyond all human resources. please intervene. she absolutely is gone. out there. a disaster area. kaput. sayonara.

no offense sweet heart

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#214407 Feb 24, 2014
KiMare wrote:
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You are on a stupidity roll.
Violate the very First Amendment? This is the 'tolerance' you are promoting???
Once again, we see the classic example of where 'rational atheism' will take a country.
It is why not one of you girls have been able to post your poster child atheistic country.
Smirk.
You do realize that people are making fun of you, right?

No?

You should see the tweets.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

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#214408 Feb 24, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
In the context of Catcher's post, being that we all need to "bite the bullet" and help each other out, the 'boo hoo' was completely unwarranted.
Why? He believes that universal coverage is worth the cost, and you don't. Why should he have any other attitude about somebody who isn't willing to pitch in?
RiversideRedneck wrote:
I do not have health insurance because it's too expensive. I never used it one time in 2013 and they still raised it 30%, they raised everyone that works for my company 30%. That over 250,000 people that are getting stuck with a higher premium thanks to the Unaffordable Care Act.
How much more in taxes do you think you would have been paying for universal healthcare? Do you know how much you are saving by not having it?
RiversideRedneck wrote:
Are you complaining that conservative politicians tried blocking it? Why? The bill was so enormous and filled with so many extra taxes, fees and fines, they knew it was bad for the people.
I do not or believe those people, nor your canned analysis that you heard in the echo chamber.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
Great for the insurance companies. But bad for the people.
Isn't that the point? If you don't think so, you really don't understand modern American conservatism

“Life may be sweeter for this”

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#214409 Feb 24, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
To answer your question; no. I don't think universal health care is needed. I don't see health care a right, I see it as a privilege like voting or driving.
That's fine.

If health care is a privilege, would you agree that if you become very ill, that you owe it to your family to die without seeking medical care that you and they can't afford?

I sure hope that if things go south for you that you'll maintain your detached and philosophical demeanor through it all.

Incidentally, do you see bankruptcy as a right or a privilege?
RiversideRedneck wrote:
I DO think that emergency medical, fire, military and police should be everyone's right. But to say that taxes should pay for people's private medical insurance? Nope.
Now you're being inconsistent.Why are fire and police protection a right and not a privilege? It's all socialism.

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#214410 Feb 24, 2014
KiMare wrote:
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How's that worked out before in history?
Perhaps you could give me a historic example?
Smile.
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
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It has worked **extremely** well in the past.
Druids? They have faded.
Aztecs? Faded.
Egyptian gods? Faded.
Norse gods? Faded.
Greek gods? Faded.
Roman gods? Faded.
Chinese gods? Faded.
African gods? Faded.
South American gods? Faded.
North American Native gods? Faded.
In fact?
The **majority** of **all** gods **ever** invented?
... faded away.
Your god will too, one day.
1. You censored my post which in actuality exposed your lack of character and cowardice. Another typical example of 'moral, rational atheism' on here.

2. You have two thousand years of Christianity's substance superseding any belief system it comes in contact with.

This includes atheistic belief systems like that of communist Poland where the Church was fundamental in bring freedom from another 'rational atheistic' country.

3. Still standing unanswered by any 'rational atheist' is my question;

How's atheism worked out before in history?
Perhaps you could give me a historic example of a 'poster child' atheistic country?

Smile.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#214411 Feb 24, 2014
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
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The irony of the above godbot, who **literally** follows an imaginary nonentity, saying the above?
Priceless.
Jesus is not a historical figure?

Gotta love those 'rational atheists'...

Snicker.

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