Barack Obama, our next President

"The road ahead will be long. Our climb will be steep," Obama cautioned. Young and charismatic but with little experience on the national level, Obama smashed through racial barriers and easily defeated ... Full Story
John Galt

Temecula, CA

#1044815 Dec 18, 2013
USAsince1680 wrote:
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So?
don't issue permits and the pipeline jobs will go to Americans...
John Galt

Temecula, CA

#1044816 Dec 18, 2013
sonicfilter wrote:
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if you don't have insurance and you are accepted for Medicaid(Medicare?) are you still one of the uninsured?
yes, uninsured and on welfare....probably for life...

“Amor patriae.”

Since: Feb 08

Eastern Oregon

#1044817 Dec 18, 2013
LoisLane59 wrote:
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This is very true. Think the poster, Ray, said the same thing. If Obama were Bush, the media wouldn't have to make up stuff or mislead people or build mountains out of molehills just to sway public opinion against him. They'd only have to hold him accountable for his failed policies, poor leadership, lies and deceptions and cover-ups. And, if that were the case, his approval ratings would be in the negative.
The fact his approval is hovering around 40% in spite of the media ignoring his failed policies and poor leadership and helping him sweep his lies and deceptions and cover-ups under the rug is telling. Considering Bush was only 5 points behind him at the very end of his second term with the media hounding him every step of the way.
Wish I'd seen Ray's.

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#1044818 Dec 18, 2013
dont snow me wrote:
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there are already pipelines all over this country, not trashing anything, except maybe your mind.
You are truly clueless. Those pipelines are not carrying the very caustic, abrasive and corrosive tar sands crude. Why do you think even Canadians want nothing to do with transporting it across their land?

"There are no safe ways to transport tar sands. Tar sands bitumen must be diluted from its asphalt like consistency to a thinner substance by a proprietary, undisclosed chemical cocktail as well as heated by stations every 40 miles to be moved through pipes. The nature of this diluted bitumen (dil-bit) is a caustic and corrosive material that will sooner or later leak. The Keystone 1 tar sands pipeline alone leaked 12 times in its first year of operation!"

"Tar sands pipelines, with only a decade long history, have an abysmal safety record, spilling hundreds of times, including a spill near the Kalamazoo River in 2010 that released almost a million gallons of diluted bitumen, and is still not cleaned up as well as the recent Mayflower, AR spill where displaced residents are still unable to return to their homes after a month has passed."

"Tar sands dilbit or heavy crude, as the industry often calls it, is more caustic, more abrasive material that is transported at a higher temperature and a higher pressure than conventional crude. Diluted by proprietary chemicals transporting tar sands is an inherently dangerous activity that poisons water for all species for generations."

http://gptarsandsresistance.org/why/

Since: Jun 13

Orlando, FL

#1044819 Dec 18, 2013
GOPidiots wrote:
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Half the country disagrees with you.
I would argue that the GOP is inherently stupid.
You keep nominating losers after circus- like primaries.
The nuts are already turning out for Senate GOP primaries.
GOP threatening another fiscal cliff over raising the debt ceiling to pay for the budget they just voted for.
Now that's stupid.
In all polls, Obama's disapproval rating is 50%(in only three) and higher in all the rest..

47% is the highest approval in two polls. All the rest are in the low 40s..

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other...

You can't say half of the country disagrees with me. You're in the minority and don't seem to know it.
sonicfilter

Fishers, IN

#1044820 Dec 18, 2013
LoisLane59 wrote:
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Congress is going to vote to tweak the new budget when they return in January so that cuts in veterans benefits will be taken out. Hope Obama is still happy about that.
What's funny is Obama acts like he had something to do with Congress deciding to act on their own without him.
cuts to vet benefits? Obama?

Ryan's Committee Scrubs Doc of Claim to Protect Disabled Vets' Pensions

House Budget Committee Chairman Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI) has scrubbed a document to remove a false statement about the budget deal he cut with Senate Budget Committee chairwoman Sen. Patty Murray (D-WA), Breitbart News has learned.

An original talking point in the document claimed the plan’s cuts to military pensions for wounded warriors, or service members who retired as a result of disability or injury, would not be affected.

....Ryan’s committee removed the claim that wounded warriors’ pensions would not be affected by the cuts because the claim is not true, as the Washington Free Beacon documented.

Ryan’s spokesman Will Allison admitted to Breitbart News that Ryan’s team did in fact edit the document. Allison said Ryan’s staff discovered the claim was in fact incorrect and then edited the document on Tuesday, Dec. 10--two days before the House vote. But Allison would not answer when asked multiple times if Ryan and his committee staff notified House members of the significant change to that document--which may in fact have led to a decision for some House members on which way they would have voted on the bill.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/...

looks to me like a republican signed off on those cuts and then tried to hide it from the FOXbots.
John Galt

Temecula, CA

#1044821 Dec 18, 2013
sonicfilter wrote:
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over 2.5 million signed up for the 'disaster'.
if you don't know where the money for the subsides comes from then go find out.
and yes, i know where it comes from, but i'm getting tired of citing stuff that everyone should already know.
a number pulled out of your ass...

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#1044822 Dec 18, 2013
John Galt wrote:
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"applied for coverage" and "enrolled" and "signed up" are meaningless terms when discussing ObamaKKKare....
the number of people who have an actual paid insurance contract is miniscule...
Too early to tell. Sit back and relax.
Whatever

Gering, NE

#1044823 Dec 18, 2013
sonicfilter wrote:
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defining cost.
which is nowhere near the Heritage 'estimate'.
Yes, I included that too...$1,363 billion over ten years

"CBO and JCT’s current projection of the budgetary impact of the ACA’s coverage provisions is $1,363 billion over the 2014–2023 period. That amount represents an increase of $40 billion from the February 2013 estimate of $1,323 billion, as shown in the table below. Although the gross cost of those provisions is now projected to be $74 billion less over the 10-year period, various payments to the government and other savings related to those provisions are now also estimated to be less—by $114 billion; the combination of those two effects has boosted the projected net cost of the coverage provisions.
John Galt

Temecula, CA

#1044824 Dec 18, 2013
LoisLane59 wrote:
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Congress is going to vote to tweak the new budget when they return in January so that cuts in veterans benefits will be taken out. Hope Obama is still happy about that.
What's funny is Obama acts like he had something to do with Congress deciding to act on their own without him.
there are no cuts in veterans benefits...just in cost-of-living increases...

Since: Jun 13

Orlando, FL

#1044825 Dec 18, 2013
dont snow me wrote:
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sure imbecile, but Ostupida care won't cost a dime, will it?
If I remember correctly, Obama clearly said it won't cost one "thin" dime.

Every conservative in that chamber should have yelled "lie" right then. Bet they would now.
John Galt

Temecula, CA

#1044826 Dec 18, 2013
Whatever wrote:
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Yes, I included that too...$1,363 billion over ten years
"CBO and JCT’s current projection of the budgetary impact of the ACA’s coverage provisions is $1,363 billion over the 2014–2023 period. That amount represents an increase of $40 billion from the February 2013 estimate of $1,323 billion, as shown in the table below. Although the gross cost of those provisions is now projected to be $74 billion less over the 10-year period, various payments to the government and other savings related to those provisions are now also estimated to be less—by $114 billion; the combination of those two effects has boosted the projected net cost of the coverage provisions.
all such projections are meaningless and are likely to be too low by an order of magnitude....

Since: Jun 13

Orlando, FL

#1044827 Dec 18, 2013
John Galt wrote:
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there are no cuts in veterans benefits...just in cost-of-living increases...
That's true but, to veterans, that expected increase would have seemed like a cut.

Glad both Democrats and Republicans are going to fix it.

Wonder if they've told Obama yet. Or if he'll just read about it in the news.

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#1044828 Dec 18, 2013
LoisLane59 wrote:
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Congress is going to vote to tweak the new budget when they return in January so that cuts in veterans benefits will be taken out. Hope Obama is still happy about that.
What's funny is Obama acts like he had something to do with Congress deciding to act on their own without him.
Republicans in Congress decided to act because of Obama not in spite of him. They came out the big LOSERS in the partial shut down and had no choice except to change direction. Let's hope they keep their heads about them.
sonicfilter

Fishers, IN

#1044829 Dec 18, 2013
John Galt wrote:
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a number pulled out of your ass...
prove me wrong.

but you can't because i never pull anything out of my ass. i'm not a bagger.
John Galt

Temecula, CA

#1044830 Dec 18, 2013
Cost projections are notoriously unreliable, and history is filled with examples of federal programs - especially in health care - that cost far more than originally predicted.

In 1965, the House Ways and Means Committee estimated that the hospital insurance program of Medicare - the federal health care program for the elderly and disabled - would cost $9 billion by 1990. The actual cost that year was $67 billion.

In 1967, the House Ways and Means Committee said the entire Medicare program would cost $12 billion in 1990. The actual cost in 1990 was $98 billion.

In 1987, Congress projected that Medicaid - the joint federal-state health care program for the poor - would make special relief payments to hospitals of less than $1 billion in 1992. Actual cost:$17 billion.
John Galt

Temecula, CA

#1044831 Dec 18, 2013
LoisLane59 wrote:
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That's true but, to veterans, that expected increase would have seemed like a cut.
Glad both Democrats and Republicans are going to fix it.
Wonder if they've told Obama yet. Or if he'll just read about it in the news.
you fall too easily into the DemoKKKrat trap of considering level spending to be a "cut"...

many people have pensions that do not include cost-of-living increases...

there should be no "fix" unless some other spending is reduced...

Since: Jun 13

Orlando, FL

#1044832 Dec 18, 2013
sonicfilter wrote:
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cuts to vet benefits? Obama?
Ryan's Committee Scrubs Doc of Claim to Protect Disabled Vets' Pensions
House Budget Committee Chairman Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI) has scrubbed a document to remove a false statement about the budget deal he cut with Senate Budget Committee chairwoman Sen. Patty Murray (D-WA), Breitbart News has learned.
An original talking point in the document claimed the plan’s cuts to military pensions for wounded warriors, or service members who retired as a result of disability or injury, would not be affected.
....Ryan’s committee removed the claim that wounded warriors’ pensions would not be affected by the cuts because the claim is not true, as the Washington Free Beacon documented.
Ryan’s spokesman Will Allison admitted to Breitbart News that Ryan’s team did in fact edit the document. Allison said Ryan’s staff discovered the claim was in fact incorrect and then edited the document on Tuesday, Dec. 10--two days before the House vote. But Allison would not answer when asked multiple times if Ryan and his committee staff notified House members of the significant change to that document--which may in fact have led to a decision for some House members on which way they would have voted on the bill.
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/...
looks to me like a republican signed off on those cuts and then tried to hide it from the FOXbots.
Should have clarified what that meant. Galt did. Read his post. But it's going to be removed when Congress returns in January. Both sides are in agreement.

But it's nice, isn't it, to see Democrats and Republicans working together - now that Obama is having to fight his own battles and Democrats aren't all that concerned and he isn't demonizing Republicans anymore?

Maybe Democrats finally realized they're better off without him?
Whatever

Gering, NE

#1044833 Dec 18, 2013
USAsince1680 wrote:
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I agree. The only reason TransCanada wants to cross the U.S. is because they believe U.S. politicians are easily fooled.
350 dot org admits in a tweet that...
The fight over Keystone XL isn't about oil. It's about justice.
https://twitter.com/350/status/38082248759797...

"It's about forcing our politicians to stand on the side of the people and stand up to Big Oil. It's about testing whether President Obama can live up to his rhetoric and help "end the tyranny of oil" and address the climate crisis."

It is all about being anti-oil.

Getting fed up with people whose whole platform is irrational hate.

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#1044834 Dec 18, 2013
LoisLane59 wrote:
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Congress is going to vote to tweak the new budget when they return in January so that cuts in veterans benefits will be taken out. Hope Obama is still happy about that.
What's funny is Obama acts like he had something to do with Congress deciding to act on their own without him.
Hmmm. Let's see. The Republican controlled House of Representatives cut veteran and military retiree pension benefits and you somehow want to blame it on Obama. Do you realize how illogical that sounds?

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