Barack Obama, our next President

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Since: Apr 09

Elmont, Long Island NY

#1025424 Nov 17, 2013
Ray Donovan wrote:
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Like I said earlier, anyone lacking the guts to serve in their country's military has no business commanding it.
so we agree, Reagan should never have been president.!!!
KarmaNoElectra

Palm Coast, FL

#1025425 Nov 17, 2013
Karma is a_______ wrote:
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really arsewipe. just when did you serve???
I'm liberal and I spent 6.5 years in the Corps.
Sen Max Cleland served in nam, won a silver star and purple heart
Senator Jim Webb served in the Marines during Nam and his son served in the Marines in Iraq.
Joe biden's son served
I know I can list more liberal democrats who have served this country proudly than conservative republican.
The only thing you served were fries at McDonald's.

Since: Aug 13

Bozeman, MT

#1025426 Nov 17, 2013
Karma is a_______ wrote:
<quoted text>
WTF, give me and the rest of the world a break.
A break from what? I said Bush didn't avoid the draft. You agreed.

Thank you and GFYT.

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#1025427 Nov 17, 2013
John Galt wrote:
<quoted text>
your argument speaks for itself as to the shallowness of your patriotism and your sense of morality....
besides, Obama was hiding at Harvard while Americans were fighting in Desert Storm....
Gee, was there a draft during Desert Storm? Must have missed that....

Since: Aug 13

Bozeman, MT

#1025428 Nov 17, 2013
Karma is a_______ wrote:
<quoted text>
Sen Max Cleland served in nam, won a silver star and purple heart
Senator Jim Webb served in the Marines during Nam and his son served in the Marines in Iraq.
Joe biden's son served
Good for them. It's obvious they're not America-hating, leftist cowards like Obama and Clinton.

Since: Aug 13

Bozeman, MT

#1025429 Nov 17, 2013
Karma is a_______ wrote:
<quoted text>
I know I can list more liberal democrats who have served this country proudly than conservative republican.
Yeah? Well knock yourself out. Please.

Since: Aug 13

Bozeman, MT

#1025430 Nov 17, 2013
Karma is a_______ wrote:
<quoted text>
so we agree, Reagan should never have been president.!!!
No we don't, you ignorant sod.

"Ronald Wilson Reagan enrolled in a series of home-study Army Extension Courses on 18 March 1935. After completing 14 of the courses, he enlisted in the Army Enlisted Reserve on 29 April 1937, as a Private assigned to Troop B, 322nd Cavalry at Des Moines, Iowa. He was appointed Second Lieutenant in the Officers Reserve Corps of the Cavalry on 25 May 1937. On June 18 of that year Reagan, who had just moved to Los Angeles to begin his film career, accepted his Officer’s Commission and was assigned to the 323rd Cavalry.

Lieutenant Reagan was ordered to active duty on 19 April 1942. Due to eyesight difficulties, he was classified for limited service only, which excluded him from serving overseas."

http://www.reagan.utexas.edu/archives/referen...

Since: Apr 09

Elmont, Long Island NY

#1025431 Nov 17, 2013
Ray Donovan wrote:
<quoted text>
A break from what? I said Bush didn't avoid the draft. You agreed.
Thank you and GFYT.
obviously you weren't around during Nam. No Bush didn't avoid the draft, what he did was much worse. He knew he could avoid combat by using his daddy's pull to get into the Champagne Guard. At least Clinton took a stance and wrote his objections in a letter to the draft board, thereby risking Federal charges. Unlike say people like Dick Cheney, someone so willing to send troops into harms way, got 5 deferrments to avoid service during nam.
LCNLin

United States

#1025432 Nov 17, 2013
USAsince1680 wrote:
<quoted text>
These are but a few of her sources of "documented facts":
Breitbart, Fox Noise, Wall Street Journal, New York Post, Drudge Report, WorldNetDaily, Newsmax, Free Republic, The Washington Times,
Town Hall, Rush Limbaugh, Real Clear Politics, National Review, Hot Air, Michelle Malkin, Glenn Beck, Human Events Online, The Heritage Foundation, Newsbusters, The Weekly Standard, Sean Hannity, Pajamas Media, Atlas Shrugs, The American Thinker, The Cato Journal, Jewish World Review, Front Page Magazine, The American Spectator....
Amusing list of right wing dribble
LCNLin

United States

#1025433 Nov 17, 2013
USAsince1680 wrote:
<quoted text>
Gee, was there a draft during Desert Storm? Must have missed that....
He was one of the WAVES in world war two

Since: Aug 13

Bozeman, MT

#1025434 Nov 17, 2013
USAsince1680 wrote:
<quoted text>
when provided with the truth that the majority of people don't want it repealed
You provided what "truth," a poll that surveyed 900 people, 70% of the democrats?

OK, here's my "truth": 55% Favor Repeal of Obamacare

Most voters view the new national health care law as bad for the country and want to repeal it.

A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that just 35% of Likely U.S. Voters now believe the trouble-plagued health care law is good for America. Fifty-five percent (55%) consider it bad for the country. Only two percent (2%) think it will have no impact.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_conten...

Since: Jul 11

Location hidden

#1025435 Nov 17, 2013
flack wrote:
<quoted text> Do you understand how stupid that sounds?
Yeah about as stupid as you ringers who can't comprehend it. Money can be made from green just as it can from fossil fuels. It is inevitable that carbon reduction will become compulsory whether you like it or not. The fact that Al Gore can live in both worlds annoys the hell out of your lot. Mainly because you just want him to live in a tree house before he is worthy of passing on any message.
But in the new green economy buying another's share of carbon credits will work no different than the stock market of today. There will be winners & losers. But that is ok we need the ignorant to keep that way because they will be the big losers in the future.

Since: Apr 09

Elmont, Long Island NY

#1025436 Nov 17, 2013
Ray Donovan wrote:
<quoted text>
No we don't, you ignorant sod.
"Ronald Wilson Reagan enrolled in a series of home-study Army Extension Courses on 18 March 1935. After completing 14 of the courses, he enlisted in the Army Enlisted Reserve on 29 April 1937, as a Private assigned to Troop B, 322nd Cavalry at Des Moines, Iowa. He was appointed Second Lieutenant in the Officers Reserve Corps of the Cavalry on 25 May 1937. On June 18 of that year Reagan, who had just moved to Los Angeles to begin his film career, accepted his Officer’s Commission and was assigned to the 323rd Cavalry.
Lieutenant Reagan was ordered to active duty on 19 April 1942. Due to eyesight difficulties, he was classified for limited service only, which excluded him from serving overseas."
http://www.reagan.utexas.edu/archives/referen...
My apologies, Reagan was a SUPER REMF. Unless you served, you'd never understand. although I think the term today FOBBIT

After completing fourteen home-study Army Extension Courses, Reagan enlisted in the Army Enlisted Reserve[33] on April 29, 1937, as a private assigned to Troop B, 322nd Cavalry at Des Moines, Iowa.[34] He was commissioned a second lieutenant in the Officers Reserve Corps of the cavalry on May 25, 1937.[35]

Reagan was ordered to active duty for the first time on April 18, 1942. Due to his nearsightedness, he was classified for limited service only, which excluded him from serving overseas.[36] His first assignment was at the San Francisco Port of Embarkation at Fort Mason, California, as a liaison officer of the Port and Transportation Office.[37] Upon the approval of the Army Air Force (AAF), he applied for a transfer from the cavalry to the AAF on May 15, 1942, and was assigned to AAF Public Relations and subsequently to the First Motion Picture Unit (officially, the "18th Army Air Force Base Unit") in Culver City, California.[37] On January 14, 1943, he was promoted to first lieutenant and was sent to the Provisional Task Force Show Unit of This Is The Army at Burbank, California.[37] He returned to the First Motion Picture Unit after completing this duty and was promoted to captain on July 22, 1943.[34]

In January 1944, Reagan was ordered to temporary duty in New York City to participate in the opening of the Sixth War Loan Drive. He was re-assigned to the First Motion Picture Unit on November 14, 1944, where he remained until the end of World War II.[34] He was recommended for promotion to major on February 2, 1945, but this recommendation was disapproved on July 17 of that year.[38] While with the First Motion Picture Unit in 1945, he was indirectly involved in discovering actress Marilyn Monroe.[39] He returned to Fort MacArthur, California, where he was separated from active duty on December 9, 1945.[38] By the end of the war, his units had produced some 400 training films for the AAF.[34]

Reagan never left the United States during the war, though he kept a film reel, obtained while in the service, depicting the liberation of Auschwitz, as he believed that someday doubts would arise as to whether the Holocaust had occurred.[40] It has been alleged that he was overheard telling Israeli foreign minister Yitzhak Shamir in 1983 that he had filmed that footage himself and helped liberate Auschwitz,[40][41] though this purported conversation was disputed by Secretary of State George Shultz.[42]
John Galt

Temecula, CA

#1025437 Nov 17, 2013
Karma is a_______ wrote:
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since there hasn't been a draft since 72, that would make SI at a minimum 60 years old.
Hey Johnny boy just when and where did you serve?
Si Robertson is 65...so what?

Galt's personal life is none of your business....

now go back to that dump Elmont that you live in....

Since: Apr 09

Elmont, Long Island NY

#1025438 Nov 17, 2013
Ray Donovan wrote:
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Yeah? Well knock yourself out. Please.
Rick Noriega, Democratic candidate for U.S. Senate from Texas -- joined the U.S. Army in 1979; currently Lt. Colonel in Texas Army National Guard, served in Afghanistan.(1)
Senator Jim Webb (D-VA)-- rifle platoon and company commander with the Fifth Marine Regiment in the An Hoa Basin west of Danang; was awarded the Navy Cross, the Silver Star Medal, two Bronze Star Medals, and two Purple Hearts.(1)
Representative Tim Walz, D-MN - Twenty-four years of service in the Army National Guard, retiring in 2005.
Representative Joe Sestak, D-PA - 31 years of service in the Navy, rising to the rank of Vice Admiral.
Representative Chris Carney, D-PA - Lieutenant Commander in the United States Naval Reserve, Carney served multiple tours overseas and was activated for Operation Enduring Freedom, Noble Eagle, and Southern Watch.
Representative Patrick Murphy, D-PA - extensive career in the U.S. Army from 1993-2004; earned Bronze Star and Presidential Unit Citation.
Representative Phil Hare, D-IL - Served in the United States Army Reserve for six years.

Representative Jack Murtha (D-PA)- distinguished 37-year career in the U.S. Marine Corps, Bronze Star and two Purple Hearts, retired from the Marine Corps Reserve as a colonel in 1990.(1)
Former House Minority Leader Richard Gephardt - Missouri Air National Guard, 1965-71.(1, 2)
Representative David Bonior - Staff Sgt., United States Air Force 1968-72 (1, 2)
Former Senate Minority Leader Tom Daschle - 1st Lt., U.S. Air Force SAC 1969-72 (1, 2)
Former Vice President Al Gore - enlisted August 1969; sent to Vietnam January 1971 as an army journalist, assigned to the 20th Engineer Brigade headquartered at Bien Hoa, an airbase twenty miles northeast of Saigon. More facts about Gore's Service
Former Senator Bob Kerrey... Democrat... Lt. j.g., U.S. Navy 1966-69; Medal of Honor, Vietnam (1, 2)
Senator Daniel Inouye, US Army 1943-'47; Medal of Honor, World War Two (1, 2)
Senator John Kerry, Lt., U.S. Navy 1966-70; Silver Star, Bronze Star with Combat V, and three awards of the Purple Heart for his service in combat (1)
Representative Charles Rangel, Staff Sgt., U.S. Army 1948-52; Bronze Star, Korea (1, 2)
Former Senator Max Cleland, Captain, U.S. Army 1965-68; Silver Star & Bronze Star, Vietnam (1, 2)
Senator Chris Dodd (D-CT)- U.S. Army Reserve, 1968-1975.
Senator Ted Kennedy (D-MA)- U.S. Army, 1951-1953.(1)
Senator Tom Harkin (D-IA)- Lt., U.S. Navy, 1962-67; Naval Reserve, 1968-74.(1, 2)
Senator Jack Reed (D-RI)- U.S. Army Ranger, 1971-1979; Captain, Army Reserve 1979-91 (1)
Former Senator Fritz Hollings (D-SC)- served as a U.S. Army officer in World War II, receiving the Bronze Star and seven campaign ribbons.(1)

Representative Leonard Boswell (D-IA)- Lt. Col., U.S. Army 1956-76; two tours in Vietnam, two Distinguished Flying Crosses as a helicopter pilot, two Bronze Stars, and the Soldier's Medal.(1, 2)
Former Representative "Pete" Peterson, Air Force Captain, POW, Ambassador to Viet Nam, and recipient of the Purple Heart, the Silver Star and the Legion of Merit.(1, 2)
Rep. Mike Thompson, D-CA: Staff sergeant/platoon leader with the 173rd Airborne Brigade, U.S. Army; was wounded and received a Purple Heart.(1, 2)
Bill McBride, Democratic Candidate for Florida Governor - volunteered and served as a U.S. Marine in Vietnam; awarded Bronze Star with a combat "V." (1)
Gray Davis, former California Governor, Army Captain in Vietnam; received Bronze Star.(1)
Pete Stark, D-CA, served in the Air Force 1955-57
Wesley Clark, Democratic Presidential Candidate - 38-year career of public service in the Army, culminating as Supreme Allied Commander of NATO
John Galt

Temecula, CA

#1025439 Nov 17, 2013
Realtime wrote:
<quoted text>Fighting? ROFLMAO__the Iraqi's were surrendering to US news crews dumbazz. And on the odd chance that DaBammy had served__it would have been a real safe deal JAG etc.
Not many US troops died in that campaign__interesting that 15 females died while only 8 were KIA* in Vietnam.
given that Obama was not yet an attorney, not necessarily a "safe deal" like JAG...as if that matters...
John Galt

Temecula, CA

#1025440 Nov 17, 2013
Karma is a_______ wrote:
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I have to strongly disagree with that line of BS. In order to live in a free society and enjoy those freedoms, you need to contribute to that society. Sometimes that means contributing some of your time, maybe your life. I can't imagine what this world would be like if my father's generation felt the way you do. would we all be speaking German?
Listen you yellow belly chicken sh!t conservative wimp
NOTHING IN LIFE IS FREE.
FREEDOM COMES AT A HIGH COST.
Gid jerks like you make me sick with disgust. I'm a liberal, but I know that freedom comes with a cost, so I paid that cost with 6.5 years service in the Corps.
BTW, every country in Europe requires some sort of service to their country.
Galt agrees with you about service, but strongly disagrees with you about compulsory service, a/k/a slavery...

if the cause is just, people will serve...when the cause is a political fraud like LBJ's war in Vietnam, not so much...hence the "need" for the draft...

Since: Apr 09

Elmont, Long Island NY

#1025441 Nov 17, 2013
Ray Donovan wrote:
<quoted text>
Yeah? Well knock yourself out. Please.
Representative Patrick McHenry, R-NC - did not serve. Saw fit to endanger American troops' lives after a visit to Iraq by violating operational security and helping militias target their mortar attacks on the Green Zone.
Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-KY - did not serve (1)
Senate Assistant Minority Leader Trent Lott, R-MI - avoided the draft, did not serve.
Senate Republican Conference Chairman Jon Kyl, R-AZ - did not serve.
Senate Republican Conference Vice Chair John Cornyn, R-TX - did not serve.
National Republican Senatorial Committee Chair John Ensign, R-NV - did not serve.
House Minority Leader John Boehner, R-OH - did not serve.
House Minority Whip Roy Blunt, R-MO - did not serve.
House Republican Conerence Chair Adam Putnam, R-FL - did not serve.
House Republican Policy Committee Thaddeus McCotter, R-MI - did not serve.
National Republican Congressional Committee Chair Tom Cole, R-OK - did not serve.
Former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani - did not serve.
Former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney - did not serve in the military but did serve the Mormon Church on a 30-month mission to France.
Former Senator Fred Thompson - did not serve.
Former Speaker of the House Dennis Hastert - avoided the draft, did not serve.
Former House Majority Leader Dick Armey - avoided the draft, did not serve.
Former House Majority Leader Tom Delay - avoided the draft, did not serve (1). "So many minority youths had volunteered ... that there was literally no room for patriotic folks like himself."
Former House Majority Whip Roy Blunt - did not serve
Former Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist - did not serve.(An impressive medical resume, but not such a friend to cats in Boston.)
Rick Santorum, R-PA, formerly third ranking Republican in the Senate - did not serve.(1)
George Felix Allen, former Republican Senator from Virginia - a supporter of Nixon and the Vietnam war, did not serve.(1)
Former Secretary of Defense Don Rumsfeld - served in the U.S. Navy (1954-57) as an aviator and flight instructor.(1) Served as President Reagan's Special Envoy to the Middle East and met with Saddam Hussein twice in 1983 and 1984.
GW Bush - decided that a six-year Nat'l Guard commitment really means four years. Still says that he's "been to war." Huh?
VP Cheney - several deferments (1, 2), the last by marriage (in his own words, "had other priorities than military service")(1)
Former Att'y Gen. John Ashcroft - did not serve (1, 2); received seven deferment to teach business ed at SW Missouri State
Jeb Bush, Florida Governor - did not serve.(1)
Karl Rove - avoided the draft, did not serve (1), too busy being a Republican.
former Speaker Newt Gingrich - avoided the draft, did not serve (1, 2)
Former President Ronald Reagan - due to poor eyesight, served in a noncombat role making movies for the Army in southern California during WWII. He later seems to have confused his role as an actor playing a tail gunner with the real thing.
"B-1" Bob Dornan - avoided Korean War combat duty by enrolling in college acting classes (Orange County Weekly article). Enlisted only after the fighting was over in Korea.
Phil Gramm - avoided the draft, did not serve, four (?) student deferments
John Galt

Temecula, CA

#1025442 Nov 17, 2013
Realtime wrote:
<quoted text>The opponent, Riser, was an establishment/Tea Party candidate who had been serving in the LA legislature. Additionally he was supported by Gov Jindall.
Learn how to read ahole.
most folks see the "establishment" and the "Tea Party" as polar opposites...

Jindall is much more establishment than Tea Party...

now, go back and tell your drinking buddies your phony war stories...

Since: Aug 13

Bozeman, MT

#1025443 Nov 17, 2013
Karma is a_______ wrote:
<quoted text>
obviously you weren't around during Nam. No Bush didn't avoid the draft, what he did was much worse.
Obviously you're wrong.

Correct, Bush didn't avoid the draft.

Your opinion of what Bush did is irrelevant.

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