Barack Obama, our next President

Barack Obama, our next President

There are 1419808 comments on the Hampton Roads Daily Press story from Nov 5, 2008, titled Barack Obama, our next President. In it, Hampton Roads Daily Press reports that:

"The road ahead will be long. Our climb will be steep," Obama cautioned. Young and charismatic but with little experience on the national level, Obama smashed through racial barriers and easily defeated ...

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WOW

New York, NY

#1005872 Oct 17, 2013
Obamacare VS Single Payer – Top 10 Things the ACA Gave Us VS the Top 10 We Gave Up
Most things have two prices --- the price you pay outright, and the opportunity cost, the negative value of what you gave up in order to do what you did. Were the “opportunity costs of the Affordable Care Act, the options we threw away to get it, actually worth more than the Affordable Care Act itself? What if we had pursued single payer instead? Would Republicans be able to block its implementation, and millions remained uncovered, as is happening now?What did we gain? What did we lose? Was it worth it? You decide...

WHAT WE GOT WITH THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT

WHAT WE GAVE UP WHEN OUR LEADERS REFUSED TO PUSH SINGLE PAYER

1. We got a swiss cheese system that exempts many large corporations from having to ensure their employees.

The only grain of truth in the mountain of partisan lies Republicans tell about the ACA is that hundreds of large corporations have indeed been granted under-the-table exemptions from the obligation to provide health insurance to many of their workers, along with regulatory loopholes which let them to raise co-pays and deductibles to levels that will compel many of their low-paid workers to take their chances on the federal and state exchanges.

A single payer system would have freed US businesses altogether from the crushing burden of providing health insurance for their employees, and left no one without health insurance.

2. We got a Medicare expansion which can be thwarted at will by current or future Republican controlled state governments.

The only unalloyed silver lining of the ACA was its expansion of Medicaid, which the Supreme Court threw out, enabling state governments to selectively deny Medicaid benefits to millions

Medicare has been settled law for 50 years. Hostile state governments have no say in any part of its funding or administration. Lowering the Medicare qualification age to include everyone is and would have been a legally bulletproof, and Supreme Court proof way of guaranteeing health care for everybody in every state. But we threw that away.

3. We got a chaotic and confusing “marketplace” in which patients with little information are encouraged to conflate low insurance premiums with low-cost quality insurance.

In reality many families of modest means will choose low-cost plans with deductibles and premiums so high and coverage so limited that these costs will remain significant barriers to getting medical care even though they are technically “insured.”

Under a single payer system everyone is insured, period, from the cradle to the grave. Under single payer the experience of shopping --- essentially being preyed upon in a marketplace where the sellers have all the information and all the advantages never happens.
Grey Ghost

Partlow, VA

#1005873 Oct 17, 2013
fetch almighty wrote:
<quoted text>O'bama will be coming on TV in a few minutes if he can get his lazy ass out of bed. He doesn't do pressers before 10--it is against his will if he has to. O'bama will be coming on to tell us about how the United States is happy land. Only 14% approve of the way the country is going. O'bama is the leader.
Opps time for you to make that appointment that every one has been asking you to do..Either that or get back on your meds.

Since: Jun 13

Orlando, FL

#1005874 Oct 17, 2013
fetch almighty wrote:
<quoted text>O'bama will be coming on TV in a few minutes if he can get his lazy ass out of bed. He doesn't do pressers before 10--it is against his will if he has to. O'bama will be coming on to tell us about how the United States is happy land. Only 14% approve of the way the country is going. O'bama is the leader.
You mean he's going to lecture to us again and disappear from the podium before answering any questions.

Never before has any president given so many speeches and answered so few questions.
WOW

New York, NY

#1005875 Oct 17, 2013
Obamacare VS Single Payer – Top 10 Things the ACA Gave Us VS the Top 10 We Gave Up
4. We got an initially unworkable internet front end for our chaotic and confusing “marketplace.”

In the first week of open enrollment in the state of New York, which is entirely cooperating with the ACA, almost none of the hundreds of thousands of eligible persons succeeded in enrolling online.

The first day of single payer customers would have to do exactly nothing. The social security system would already have your address and income data, with no confusing and predatory “marketplace” to navigate, people could go about their productive lives.

5. We gave an ongoing river of cash to private health insurance companies. Millions more are now forced to buy their crappy product, with the premiums funded by billion annually in public subsidies.

Health insurance executives got massive salary increases since the passage of the Affordable Care Act. Existing insurance company shareholders saw profits and stock prices spike, first with the passage of the ACA, then with the onset of open enrollment. Anticipated ballooning profits have led health insurance companies to buy back as much of their own stock as possible. What else would you expect? Health insurance company lobbyists wrote the ACA.

While the ACA pads the pockets of insurance company executives and keeps employed an army of advertisers, marketers and bureaucrats, single payer would have created a quarter million new good paying jobs delivering actual health care to people, according to the National Nurses Union.

6. The ACA gives us little or no cost control over medical care and even bans most measures that would lower the cost of prescription drugs.

With the substandard policies the most families will be able to afford, skimpy coverage, high co-pays and deductibles will continue to threaten hundreds of thousands annually with bankruptcy due to unpayable medical bills.

The US is one of the few places in the developed world in which a family can lose its home, and its children their college educations because of unpayable medical bills. We could have changed that. But we didn't

7. ACA only covers about half the nation's total uninsured. It leaves two thirds of the blacks and single mothers, along with half the low-wage employed currently without health insurance untouched.

You can blame Republicans for blocking ACA implementation, but they're only exploiting the opening Democrats gave them. The White House and Congressional Democrats made the decision to go for piecemeal private insurance reform rather than wholesale public health care reform.

Democrats and the entire political establishment placed much of what little credibility they had after the bank bailout behind the purported achievements of the ACA. A promise is a promise, and people DO remember broken promises. Broken promises poison the well of civic trust for established political parties and candidates.

“Constitutionalis t”

Since: Dec 10

Spring, TX

#1005876 Oct 17, 2013
RealDave wrote:
<quoted text>
"Rise in the east"
In what geographical framework is Hawaii in the "east", so this "prince" isn't Obama.
....
Prove it.
For some reason, Obama's lawyers will say and do anything to avoid having to submit that obviously fraudulent "birth certificate" being shown on the White House website in any case. Now, why would they do that?
Perhaps because they are aware of the fact that knowingly submitting fraudulent evidence will get you bent over in a prison shower?
How about doing what the so-called "birfers" want and submit that document as proof of Obama's eligibility.
If that document is proven legitimate, this case will disappear faster than a male page off Barney Frank's New York hotel balcony.
WOW

New York, NY

#1005877 Oct 17, 2013
8. We have to wait till 2016, when the Obama administration is on its way out of office for all the provisions of the ACA to take effect.

Back in 1965 and 66 it took only eleven months from the signing of the Medicare legislation by the president to the sending out of cards to patients, in an era when computers were the size of boxcars.

The same as the previous.... the ACA is for many, another broken promise.

9. Making health insurance and health care privatized commodities instead of human rights granted certain permanent rights to those profits under the currently popular conservative legal “takings” doctrine.

Conservative jurists, like the majority on the current Supreme Court believe that whatever profits corporations lose from future government action must be paid in perpetuity to those corporations. They call this the regulatory takings doctrine. ACA's corporate welfare giveaway will make it enormously difficult to take this billion dollar candy back from health insurance scammers by making health care a human right any time in the future.

We gave up the human right to health care. In exchange we got the right of health insurance corporations to get paid. Such a deal.

10. ACA's scheme of privatized health insurance paid for by public dollars was originally devised by one arm of the ultraconservative Heritage Foundation, and is opposed today by another arm of that same organization. Go figger.

Before it was called Obamacare nationally, it was called Romneycare in Massachusetts when that state's governor implemented it there.

By embracing what was a short time ago a right wing pipe dream as “health care reform” Democrats and so-called progressives have given Republicans encouragement to move further to the right, opposing ACA even though it originated at the nation's premiere right wing think tank.
lily boca raton fl

Boca Raton, FL

#1005878 Oct 17, 2013
Homer wrote:
Standard & Poor's estimated the shutdown has taken $24 billion out of the economy.
As if Homer didn't already dislike the Tea Baggers.
What a waste.
No Surprize

Saint Petersburg, FL

#1005879 Oct 17, 2013
sonicfilter wrote:
<quoted text>
oh sure, cite a UFO story but can't cite an accurate figure as to how many have enrolled in the ACA.
obamacare is bust a sonicmoron, hell you have not signed up... Obamacare will win the Republicans the House and Senate in 2014

AND.. When the Tea Party Patriots take back the country in 2014, you commies, obamacare brown shirt liberals and moochers will need to learn and fish or cut bait...

It's the culture...
Grey Ghost

Partlow, VA

#1005881 Oct 17, 2013
fetch almighty wrote:
<quoted text>Big girls don't cry. They get even.
Crotch big don't count.

“fairtax.org”

Since: Dec 08

gauley bridge wv

#1005882 Oct 17, 2013
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Austria 13.8
Belgium 18.4
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Canada 10.2
Czech Republic 12.7
Denmark 11.3
Finland 16.5
France 14.6
Germany 10.3
Greece 2.9
Hungary 21.0
Iceland 10.4
Italy 5.5
Japan 19.4
Luxembourg 9.5
Mexico 4.4
Netherlands 7.9
New Zealand 11.9
Norway 10.9
Poland 13.8
Portugal 8.7
Slovak Republic 10.9
South Korea 24.7
Spain 6.3
Sweden 11.1
United States 10.1
OzRitz wrote:
<quoted text>
WTF is wrong with you people, do you begin to know what you are talking about. Health care has been installed in EVERY western economy world wide, plus in almost every tin pot dictator regime for at least 40 yrs now.
If you could explain to us why this is such a problem for you when to others its a tax burden other countries citizens are quite happy to pay. Like all the Scandinavian countries which have the highest tax rates in the world yet have social welfare from cradle to grave.
They are always rated in the top 10 countries for quality of life and in most cases in the top 5. Yet in your feeble mind these ppl are oppressed even thou they have a quality of life 10 times your own. Either all of you ringers were dropped on your head at birth or there is some genetic flaw that takes away your power of reason & logic.
Fenris the Big Bad Wolf

United States

#1005883 Oct 17, 2013
sonicfilter wrote:
<quoted text>
Confidence in the country's direction has fallen 15 points since the government shutdown began two weeks ago...
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_conten...
wanna talk about the polls that show who owns the shutdown?
As one professional angler to another, I'm surprised you thought I would even give that troll-bait so much as a little nibble.:-)

Who "owns" the shutdown? You're talking about it like it was a bad thing (and it's not). That realization (i.e. that the fed is bloated and unnecessary) hit a MULTITUDE of people the last two weeks, and it will get better results every time around (which will be every annual budget).

Again you and I both know we will be right back here in January, and Arizona days are too gorgeous to waste bickering about the inevitable. Lots of tunes to get ready for the weekend gigs, so off into the beautiful sunrise I go.....:-)

Viva la Rand, and the rest of the patriots;

Coburn, Cornyn, Crapo, Cruz, Enzi, Grassley, Heller, Johnson-WI, Lee, Risch, Roberts, Rubio, Scott, Sessions, Shelby, Toomey, and Vitter!!!
Grey Ghost

Partlow, VA

#1005884 Oct 17, 2013
LoisLane59 wrote:
<quoted text>
You mean he's going to lecture to us again and disappear from the podium before answering any questions.
Never before has any president given so many speeches and answered so few questions.
Only baggers make any sense to you???None so blind...
No Surprize

Saint Petersburg, FL

#1005885 Oct 17, 2013
Homer wrote:
<quoted text>Yeah but 50,000 of those Mars applications are from Flack
Homer blaming someone else because he's the loser...

It's the culture...
No Surprize

Saint Petersburg, FL

#1005886 Oct 17, 2013
lily boca raton fl wrote:
<quoted text>
What a waste.
It's the culture...

“Bill Clinton could have ”

Since: May 10

Prevented this

#1005887 Oct 17, 2013
sonicfilter wrote:
<quoted text>
oh sure, cite a UFO story but can't cite an accurate figure as to how many have enrolled in the ACA.
What is your accurate figure for the O'bamacare TAX?

“Constitutionalis t”

Since: Dec 10

Spring, TX

#1005888 Oct 17, 2013
RealDave wrote:
<quoted text>
There ya go. Nigeria as balanced budget & oil. Go make yourself a home there.
When did we have a balanced budget, who signed it & who voted to take us off that path?
I lived in Port Harcourt for a year. That is why I can make a comparison between the government of Nigeria and this clown act we have here. In fact, the Delta State, which is the most socially undeveloped state in the entire country of Nigeria, with the lowest education level, can produce a budget for its state government.
The government of Nigeria can produce a budget. The most dysfunctional state government in the entire country of Nigeria can produce a budget.
The government of the United States has been too incompetent to produce a budget since Obama took office.
Since Obama took office, the government of the most dysfunctional state in Nigeria has been more competent than the government of the United States.

“fairtax.org”

Since: Dec 08

gauley bridge wv

#1005889 Oct 17, 2013
USAsince1680 wrote:
<quoted text>
Rethugs are all for cutting spending as long as it isn't one of THEIR pet projects. There is far more waste in military spending than in entitlement programs.
http://www.dodbuzz.com/2013/05/16/c-27j-reeme...
"The Air Force is set to discard 21 C-27Js before the end of fiscal year 2013, yet service officials still issued a request to industry on May 10 for proposals to purchase even more of the same exact aircraft that will likely sit in the boneyard.
The C-27J Spartan is the cargo aircraft that has found itself in the middle of a battle between the Air Force’s active duty and the Air National Guard. Active duty leaders have said the service likes the aircraft, but can’t afford it with the forthcoming budget cuts. Guard leaders have responded saying the aircraft will save the service money and the Guard, which was set to receive the bulk of the fleet, is being unfairly targeted to absorb the brunt of the service’s budget cuts.
Congress has for the most part taken the Guard’s side in the debate. Lawmakers have ordered the service to consider buying more C-27Js even though the service is set to follow through on plans to send the C-27J fleet to the service’s boneyard at Davis Monthan Air Force Base, Ariz., with the 309th Aerospace Maintenance And Regeneration Group. There the aircraft will sit in storage unless another federal agency claims them.
The original plan was to field a fleet of 38 C-27Js across the service as part of the Joint Cargo Aircraft Program. Already, the Air Force has 15 C-27Js stationed at Guard bases and another two at Waco, Texas, at a L-3 Communications plant. Four more are on the books to be built by Alenia Aermacchi in Italy and sent to the U.S. in fiscal year 2013. Those newly built aircraft will likely be sent directly to the boneyard....."
These aircraft are designed to land/takeoff on not so level runways. Being parked in the 'bone yard' will not hurt them till needed. We may need some heavy aircraft that can land in fields in the not too distant future.

“Bill Clinton could have ”

Since: May 10

Prevented this

#1005890 Oct 17, 2013
Grey Ghost wrote:
<quoted text>
Opps time for you to make that appointment that every one has been asking you to do..Either that or get back on your meds.
First of all I hate western medicine and I hate their doctors. I don't believe in pharma either. So shove it. I believe that the government through O'bamacare will soon take away pharma for you loons. Biden said it first.

“Constitutionalis t”

Since: Dec 10

Spring, TX

#1005891 Oct 17, 2013
sonicfilter wrote:
Obamacare Is Winning in Kentucky, Thanks to Steve Beshear
Kentucky, a bastion of anti-government ire, is the top state for Obamacare enrollment.
Kentucky’s perplexing and hypocritical aversion to big government has been exploited brilliantly by our senior senator Mitch McConnell, who’s capitalized on our cultural resentment of elite interference to transform the Bluegrass State into a deep-red citadel in federal elections. More recently, our junior senator Rand Paul catapulted McConnell’s vision much further than Mitch intended, placing Kentucky in the crosshairs of the Tea Party revolution. But while these two political icons and their surrogates clash over the depth of government slashing, they’ve been steadfastly united behind one common vision: the defeat, and, more recently, the repeal of the Affordable Care Act.
It’s no coincidence then that Obamacare is beginning to expose the political fault line that divides the two Kentuckys. The GOP’s effective—and quite misleading—messaging plays into the anti-establishment populace’s greatest fears about out-of-control outside interference: the myth of a government-run-health-care system, engineered by a President with socialist tendencies (and whose skin pigmentation and exotic name frankly heighten popular anxiety in some of the nation’s least educated counties). And yet, when you wade through the propaganda and understand the law’s true impact, Kentucky needs the Affordable Care Act…desperately. It’s a state consistently ranked near the bottom of nearly every national health survey, where one out of every six citizens remains uninsured.
With our long-standing tradition of timid politicians fearful of incurring the wrath of the anti-government mobs, it wouldn’t have been surprising to see Kentucky join much of Red America and reject both Obamacare’s Medicaid expansion to the working poor, as well as its option of establishing a state-run health benefit exchange to provide affordable health care to the remaining uninsured.
But in a delicious irony, Mitch McConnell and Rand Paul’s home state may ultimately serve as the proving ground of Obamacare’s success. That’s due to the political chutzpah of one man: Kentucky Governor Steve Beshear.
Over the past several months, Beshear used his broad executive powers to bypass resistance from the GOP-controlled state Senate to ensure that the Commonwealth is the only Southern state that both expanded its Medicaid rolls and opened up a health benefit exchange, providing access to affordable health care to our more than 640,000 uninsured citizens. And while the federal launch of the program has been plagued with technical difficulties, Kentucky’s experience has been exemplary: In its first day, 10,766 applications for health coverage were initiated, 6,909 completed and 2,989 families were enrolled. Obama himself bragged that Kentucky led the nation with its glitch-minimized performance.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/10...
So in the end, the GOP’s successful messaging efforts to rebrand the Affordable Care Act as “Obamacare”—and stand unanimously for its defeat and then repeal—could provide an opening for Democrats to win elections in areas that have been solidly red for decades. And with Steve Beshear’s help, the monster that Mitch McConnell and Rand Paul helped to create might ultimately turn on its masters.
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No Surprize

Saint Petersburg, FL

#1005892 Oct 17, 2013
Grey Ghost wrote:
<quoted text>
Crotch big don't count.
If it's ghetto, incontinent, and traitor... It's ghost, bent over, and punked by Fetch..

It's the culture...

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