Barack Obama, our next President

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"The road ahead will be long. Our climb will be steep," Obama cautioned. Young and charismatic but with little experience on the national level, Obama smashed through racial barriers and easily defeated ...
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LoisLane59 wrote:
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Someone protecting their neighborhood doesn't deserve to get the snot beat out of them for doing so either and then screaming for help long enough for seven neighbors to call 911 to send help.
Especially when the neighborhood has a high crime rate for robberies and Trayvon fit the profile of the perpetrators.
It was a tragedy. A tragedy of misunderstandings. But misunderstandings can be resolved without resorting to violence.
Zimmerman is the only one who had physical injuries.
Second lowest crime in Sanford city limits. The teen who had committed a few of the burglaries had already been arrested.

How many burglaries had there been since October 2011 when the watch program began?
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The Roman Empire had become too big to control.
The Roman population declined after people began fleeing with invasions and, also, the military became weaker and weaker.
There was a particularly long period of financial crisis which led to a slow collapse of the economy.
A general incompetence of emperors and failure of traditional politics led to a corrupt political structure and an oppressive burden of taxation. This, in turn, led to inflation and debasing of Roman currency which bred apathy and angst that caused many Romans to flee politics and later the "city-states" of the Empire, the urban foundation on which rested most of ancient life.
http://www.usu.edu/markdamen/1320Hist&Civ...
Aside from invasions, the comparisons sound very similar to me.
Well Carol, I noticed you dropped the "moral decay" argument since the article you cited totally debunks that myth. Yes area wise Rome became too big to control. Military occupation is an expensive affair. Just look at Iraq and Afghanistan. That has nothing to do with the size of our government. Contrary to your inane comparison we don't have oppressive taxes Carol, for most citizens we're paying the same rates as under Bush and those making over $400,000 are paying what they did under Clinton. We don't have any rampant inflation and our currency is in no way debased. So there are no parallels to your examples. There are however parallels in the widening inequality where a relative few control most of the country's wealth and the rest of us scramble for the crumbs. Rome also let their infrastructure deteriorate as the Republicans are willing to do.
You also didn't address the whole first part of my post where I showed how ignorant you are as to the difference between the debt and deficit and your bald faced lies about the private sector shrinking and the public sector growing.
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Civil rights demonstrators have argued Zimmerman should not have prejudged Martin, but one black neighbor of the Zimmermans said recent history should be taken into account.
“Let’s talk about the elephant in the room. I’m black, OK?” the woman said, declining to be identified because she anticipated backlash due to her race. She leaned in to look a reporter directly in the eyes.“There were black boys robbing houses in this neighborhood,” she said.“That’s why George was suspicious of Trayvon Martin.”
http://classicalvalues.com/2012/04/zimmerman-...
Someone named Sarah responded to this:
"I used to be an Obama narrative, and then I took an arrow to the knee.
"Honestly, it’s not just that this is the most dishonest and divisive administration EVER. It’s that it seems to be composed entirely of twelve year old kids. They start these 'narratives' with no other end in sight than getting elected, and they do it — yes, I have to say it — STUPIDLY. So they backfire. The thought that these idiots are handling foreign policy probably by 'meme' and 'what I learned in elementary school' has me waking up in the night in cold sweats.
"Mr. President, your dog is cooked."
...I agree wholeheartedly with Sarah.
So... she's saying Martin was racially profiled and it was acceptable.

What's your point son?
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"(ABC NEWS)-- George Zimmerman, who has been in hiding since he was acquitted of murder in the death of Trayvon Martin, emerged to help rescue someone who was trapped in an overturned truck, police said today.Sanford Police Department Capt. Jim McAuliffe told ABC News that Zimmerman "pulled an individual from a truck that had rolled over" at the intersection of a Florida highway last week. Florida Highway Patrol is now handling the case, McAuliffe said"
It's going to take a lot more than that to make up for killing someone. Was it a busload of orphans?

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It would be hard to find enough people to fill a big room who didn't feel for this family.
But the same room was empty when a white woman's baby was shot in the face by a black teen. Hardly anyone knew about it.
See the problem a lot of us are having with the hypocrisy - and our dilemma? Of course, we feel sorry for the family. But why just this case?
And why the lies by the liberal media, i.e. this administration, to perpetrate a racial divide that didn't even exist?
Because there's a much bigger problem afoot. Manipulation and control.
If they dont' talk about the Zimmerman case, they have to talk about Fast and Furious, the 11 million illegal alien lie, the IRS, the NSA, Benghazi, etc., etc., etc.,... and worst in their nightmares is having to talk about who Obama is. Every time anyone looks anywhere, it becomes obvious Obama isn't who he says he is.

This is nothing more than an attempt to divert the attention of the American people away from what our government is doing, no different than the Snowden drama epison invented by the government to divert everyone's attention away from the unconstitutional acts of the government.
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Thats a huge pile of stanky grey areA you just stepped in...
hate r moneys millions while defending a banks billions,!!!!!!!
but i didn't get it wrong.

Fresh off the false and politicized attack on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, today we’re hearing the know-nothings blame the subprime crisis on the Community Reinvestment Act — a 30-year-old law that was actually weakened by the Bush administration just as the worst lending wave began. This is even more ridiculous than blaming Freddie and Fannie.

The Community Reinvestment Act, passed in 1977, requires banks to lend in the low-income neighborhoods where they take deposits. Just the idea that a lending crisis created from 2004 to 2007 was caused by a 1977 law is silly. But it’s even more ridiculous when you consider that most subprime loans were made by firms that aren’t subject to the CRA. University of Michigan law professor Michael Barr testified back in February before the House Committee on Financial Services that 50% of subprime loans were made by mortgage service companies not subject comprehensive federal supervision and another 30% were made by affiliates of banks or thrifts which are not subject to routine supervision or examinations. As former Fed Governor Ned Gramlich said in an August, 2007, speech shortly before he passed away:“In the subprime market where we badly need supervision, a majority of loans are made with very little supervision. It is like a city with a murder law, but no cops on the beat.”

Not surprisingly given the higher degree of supervision, loans made under the CRA program were made in a more responsible way than other subprime loans. CRA loans carried lower rates than other subprime loans and were less likely to end up securitized into the mortgage-backed securities that have caused so many losses, according to a recent study by the law firm Traiger & Hinckley (PDF file here).

Finally, keep in mind that the Bush administration has been weakening CRA enforcement and the law’s reach since the day it took office. The CRA was at its strongest in the 1990s, under the Clinton administration, a period when subprime loans performed quite well. It was only after the Bush administration cut back on CRA enforcement that problems arose, a timing issue which should stop those blaming the law dead in their tracks. The Federal Reserve, too, did nothing but encourage the wild west of lending in recent years. It wasn’t until the middle of 2007 that the Fed decided it was time to crack down on abusive pratices in the subprime lending market. Oops.

http://www.businessweek.com/investing/insight...
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flack wrote:
<quoted text> Republicans are more comfortable with it than democrats because you can no longer use the tax code to shape behavior. Democrats would lose control of their victims without the tax code.
Exactly.

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<quoted text>You're having another of your delusions again DB! What did my post have to do with the constitution? Does the constitution state anywhere that," a group of people, no matter the race, can't where their pants having off their ass or, anything of a dress code anywhere? No! You're dumb enough to mistake everyday wear for job employment clothing. Ignorant enough to believe that, black folks are ignorant enough to not know how to dress when applying for a job or, going to a job interview! Your bigotry is appalling!
Your post had to do with just making up the rules as you go, and applying them subjectively.
We have a Constitution specifically to avoid that medieval concept of government, dufus.

The Constitution is the rule. Do we have to fight ANOTHER war over that?
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LoisLane59 wrote:
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You mean the voices of easily manipulated Americans? Yes, unfortunately, they are.
Which is what concerns the rest of us.
3 million FOXbots hardly qualifies as 'the rest of us'.

someday you'll have to explain why the most of us won't start watching FOX.

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<quoted text>Cons have been discrediting teachers for years now as union hacks.
What makes you 'special' in their eyes?
I think teachers were being blamed for the unquestionable failure of our education system that was changed from the best in the world to the most expensive in the world that generates the most ignorant workforce in the industrialized world, and has a record of a 40+ year decline without a single year of improvement.

... next?
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<quoted text>When you lock yourself there of your own free will, it's understandable.
Next you'll be singing 'Mammy' to us in black face paint...
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That's ridiculous. The "fight or flight" instinct happens in just seconds. Trayvon had 4 minutes to think about confronting Zimmmerman. He could have "flit" to where his father was staying in just 20 seconds long after he first made eye contact with Zimmmerman on the phone and after he first ran off.
So why didn't he just keep running?
Because the liberal media told you not to think about that. That's why.
The state claims that two minutes were unaccounted for, where did you hear four minutes? According to Zimmerman's statements Trayvon could not have seen George outside the truck until seconds prior to the confrontation.

But wait, the resident witnesses were drawn in by loud arguing voices prior to the gunshot. I guess George forgot about the arguing eh?

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<quoted text>lol! You are such a historical contortionist, son!
You forgot to answer the post. I'll help you. Here it is again:

Let's go over US history again:
In 2003 the Democrats supported the war in Iraq in exchange for the Republicans giving them no effective oversight of their Marxist CRA program. All necessary legislation was put in place then.
Compounding this idiocy, the Democrats took over all oversight of the financial institutions that caused the economic collapse in January, 2007, coincident with the year the effect of the Democrats' Marxist subprime housing mortgage underwriting program began to have negative effects on the economy.
After two years of oversight by Democrats, the Democrats' Marxist subprime housing loan program collapsed our economy.
Prior to the Democrats' Marxist subprime loan program, the world invested in US real estate mortgage industry because it was a foregone conclusion that... you may need to write this down... history proved that Americans always paid their mortgages.
The Democrats changed that perception of America.

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<quoted text> Republicans do have a problem with it. They don't think women can be trusted to make up their own mind on abortion or not. The GOP thinks men have to make that decision for women.
A gallup poll from last year shows the majority are pro-life.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/154838/Pro-Choice-...

That was before the Gosnell case and a liberal movement now demanding abortions at any stage of development.

Abortion involves more than one life. And informed decisions are a common sense approach in any medical procedure.

Most liberals are just too easily manipulated. Sorry to say.
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DBWriter wrote:
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Your post had to do with just making up the rules as you go, and applying them subjectively.
We have a Constitution specifically to avoid that medieval concept of government, dufus.
The Constitution is the rule. Do we have to fight ANOTHER war over that?
And we have amendments to it because it is an imperfect document.
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DBWriter wrote:
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If they dont' talk about the Zimmerman case, they have to talk about Fast and Furious, the 11 million illegal alien lie, the IRS, the NSA, Benghazi, etc., etc., etc.,... and worst in their nightmares is having to talk about who Obama is. Every time anyone looks anywhere, it becomes obvious Obama isn't who he says he is.
This is nothing more than an attempt to divert the attention of the American people away from what our government is doing, no different than the Snowden drama epison invented by the government to divert everyone's attention away from the unconstitutional acts of the government.
Only right wing crazies talk about it son. They keep trying to beat a dead horse... probably because they have nothing else to beat!
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Next you'll be singing 'Mammy' to us in black face paint...
Why son?
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Homer wrote:
<quoted text>It's going to take a lot more than that to make up for killing someone. Was it a busload of orphans?
Pffffttt, Zimmerman probably cut him off and forced him to crash;
that fatty can bearly hoist himself off the toilet, let alone lift another person.
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3 million FOXbots hardly qualifies as 'the rest of us'.
someday you'll have to explain why the most of us won't start watching FOX.
When Fox starts reporting the news, Homer will watch.

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USAsince1680 wrote:
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However, I think your article made a very good point about our criminal justice system..."Once you are labeled a felon, the old forms of discrimination – employment discrimination, housing discrimination, denial of the right to vote, denial of educational opportunity, denial of food stamps and other public benefits, and exclusion from jury service are suddenly legal." THAT is what is wrong with our system of "justice" and THAT is what needs to change. IMO, once a person has served their time and is off probation or parole, their record should be expunged, automatically. How can we expect people to get a new lease on life and have and have a promising future if we continue to punish them for something they did in the past? It's just wrong.
No.
If you choose to commit a crime, and you are convicted of that crime, the public has every right to assume you are, and will always be a criminal.
It's up to that criminal to convince the public that they have reformed.
And, convincing them of that may take a very, very long time.
They had their "due process of law". Just because they were released from prison doesn't mean everything should be like they never did it. There is a social penalty to pay, as well as a government penalty.

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