Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision

Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision

There are 313195 comments on the Newsday story from Jan 22, 2008, titled Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision. In it, Newsday reports that:

Thousands of abortion opponents marched from the National Mall to the Supreme Court on Tuesday in their annual remembrance of the court's Roe v. Wade decision.

Join the discussion below, or Read more at Newsday.

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#326350 Aug 27, 2014
Big Sky wrote:
<quoted text>
I think in times past, they were much more effective. The problem in our culture today is too many aren't, really. I've heard countless stories from people of someone they know who allow their teenage children to actually have sex at home....believing the moniker that kids will do it anyway. Well, they sure will, esp., if you offer them the bedroom to do so.
But, that's not the only challenge...parents who give up on their kids before they've even tried. Our society encourages rebellion in so many facets as well.(other adults...many of whom are in businesses that make money from selling sexual content, etc,).
For the love of money, many adults don't care who they hurt, especially the teenage crowd. They make the money, the teen and teen's family deal with the resulting problems and scars to their lives. Movies are sexualized, books are sexualized, magazines are sexualized, music is sexualized...all with the purpose of selling. Its much like selling drugs, they sell to make the $$, they buyer gets limited pleasure with many longterm consequences and scars to endure.
Society itself is now suffering, with not only many unwanted unborn, but many unwanted children. Its now costing society a lot of $$. Society may allow the freedom to sell in areas that hurt itself, but maybe they'll at least learn to place heavy tax burdens appropriately to those businesses that promote the behaviors that are so costly.
Those who've suffered, hopefully, will learn to speak up, create social networks to discourage these hurtful things and to help bring people out of their clutches. We need more than churches and more than parents, because those who don't believe in God also need an avenue of help. And those who come from troubled homes, who can't trust their parents for various reasons...also need an avenue of help.
Abortion is an industry as well....one which gobbles up a lot of money, one can see that by just looking at the $$ it takes in. Well, it won't survive, if these sexualized avenues lose their appeal. Hence, one sees, not only do many in the industry support abortion....many also support the sexualized lifestyles and industries. Why? They depend on each other.
So sexual content in movies, magazines and books cause the abortion rates to increase because they are an avenue to sexual behavior? Does this include condom, and Plan B ads? How does society suffer financially because unwanted pregnancies are terminated? The only way tax dollars are spent on abortions are for rape/incest and if the life and health of the mother are endangered. Our tax dollars do not fund abortions for financially burdened women or families or just because.
Big Sky

Newark, OH

#326351 Aug 27, 2014
Pearl Jam wrote:
<quoted text>So sexual content in movies, magazines and books cause the abortion rates to increase because they are an avenue to sexual behavior? Does this include condom, and Plan B ads? How does society suffer financially because unwanted pregnancies are terminated? The only way tax dollars are spent on abortions are for rape/incest and if the life and health of the mother are endangered. Our tax dollars do not fund abortions for financially burdened women or families or just because.
Clue-'not that most need one,' sex is the precursor to pregnancy...pregnancy ---- abortion, does that help? BTW, its not the ones who 'want' the unborn having abortions, so its likely the ones who failed BC 101.

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#326352 Aug 27, 2014
Big Sky wrote:
<quoted text>
Clue-'not that most need one,' sex is the precursor to pregnancy...pregnancy ---- abortion, does that help? BTW, its not the ones who 'want' the unborn having abortions, so its likely the ones who failed BC 101.
So just make sex illegal. Oh wait we can't do that. It's human nature.
Big Sky

Newark, OH

#326353 Aug 27, 2014
Pearl Jam wrote:
<quoted text>So just make sex illegal. Oh wait we can't do that. It's human nature.
So says YOU, lol.
No, charge enormous taxes on the businesses that promote it...in every form. The goal is to make the proper ones pay for the new needs of the population, due to their businesses.
Parents, teachers, churches, and other social organizations can teach the young proper, healthy, and responsible sexual expression as well. And help our society become much more sexually healthy. The medical bills alone due to std's and related sexual health issues are enormous, due to this situation. I merely feel those who make money off people's weaknesses...ought to pay. Even legalize drugs....and tax the h*ll out the the venders; as well as teach the young of those hazards would be better than what we have going on these past couple generations.

If we can tax the h*ll out of cigarettes and alcohol; we should be able to tax the h*ll out of porn, etc., as well!

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#326355 Aug 27, 2014
SevenTee wrote:
<quoted text>
Close down every abortion mill. Outlaw abortion except in the case of a Medical reason in a Hospital under the care of a Physician
That still doesn't solve the issue of an "unwanted" pregnancy. How do you propose the courts make a woman stay pregnant? Lock her up for 9 months? Check her vagina on a monthly basis to make sure she hasn't had or attempted to have an illegal abortion?

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#326356 Aug 27, 2014
Big Sky wrote:
<quoted text>
So says YOU, lol.
No, charge enormous taxes on the businesses that promote it...in every form. The goal is to make the proper ones pay for the new needs of the population, due to their businesses.
Parents, teachers, churches, and other social organizations can teach the young proper, healthy, and responsible sexual expression as well. And help our society become much more sexually healthy. The medical bills alone due to std's and related sexual health issues are enormous, due to this situation. I merely feel those who make money off people's weaknesses...ought to pay. Even legalize drugs....and tax the h*ll out the the venders; as well as teach the young of those hazards would be better than what we have going on these past couple generations.
If we can tax the h*ll out of cigarettes and alcohol; we should be able to tax the h*ll out of porn, etc., as well!
How is porn related to abortion lol. How are movies and magazines directly linked to the number of abortions? They aren't, the economy is, the lack of access to birth control is (thank Hobby Lobby et al. for that one), the lack of sex education is. When has a woman said "the reason I'm having an abortion is because I watched Debbie Does Dallas?

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#326357 Aug 27, 2014
Sex isn't a weakness, it's a biological process. It's healthy. If we're going to "tax the hell out of" businesses that prey on human weakness, let's start with churches, temples, etc.
Big Sky wrote:
<quoted text>
So says YOU, lol.
No, charge enormous taxes on the businesses that promote it...in every form. The goal is to make the proper ones pay for the new needs of the population, due to their businesses.
Parents, teachers, churches, and other social organizations can teach the young proper, healthy, and responsible sexual expression as well. And help our society become much more sexually healthy. The medical bills alone due to std's and related sexual health issues are enormous, due to this situation. I merely feel those who make money off people's weaknesses...ought to pay. Even legalize drugs....and tax the h*ll out the the venders; as well as teach the young of those hazards would be better than what we have going on these past couple generations.
If we can tax the h*ll out of cigarettes and alcohol; we should be able to tax the h*ll out of porn, etc., as well!

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#326358 Aug 27, 2014
Right, because women, once pregnant, no longer have rights. Just get ready; you're going to need a lot more dumpsters for after the unwanted births.
SevenTee wrote:
<quoted text>
Close down every abortion mill. Outlaw abortion except in the case of a Medical reason in a Hospital under the care of a Physician
Big Sky

Newark, OH

#326359 Aug 28, 2014
Pearl Jam wrote:
<quoted text>How is porn related to abortion lol. How are movies and magazines directly linked to the number of abortions? They aren't, the economy is, the lack of access to birth control is (thank Hobby Lobby et al. for that one), the lack of sex education is. When has a woman said "the reason I'm having an abortion is because I watched Debbie Does Dallas?
BC is too available and free pretty often...and there's no cost in learning how to use them properly. Oftentimes, the clinic would totally explain it...if asked. So cost and ignorance....not really an excuse, REALLY.
Big Sky

Newark, OH

#326360 Aug 28, 2014
cpeter1313 wrote:
Sex isn't a weakness, it's a biological process. It's healthy. If we're going to "tax the hell out of" businesses that prey on human weakness, let's start with churches, temples, etc.
<quoted text>
Church teachings, usually of any denomination in America....doesn't add costs to the taxpayers....so moot, imo..
Sure, its a biological process, so is eating...but just as this, it can be a weakness as well. I think many whose lives have already suffered tremendously would agree with me.
Rest, is also a very needed physical need, but laziness is its form of weakness.
If there, in the future, was an obvious cost to the citizen, due to a behavior that 'hurts' society...taught and encouraged in a church, I'd agree with you there, too. But none seem to come to mind right now.

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#326361 Aug 28, 2014
Big Sky wrote:
<quoted text>
BC is too available and free pretty often...and there's no cost in learning how to use them properly. Oftentimes, the clinic would totally explain it...if asked. So cost and ignorance....not really an excuse, REALLY.
That isn't proof that porn or playboy are linked to the abortion rates. That's pretty ridiculous actually.

“CO2 is Gaseous Love”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#326362 Aug 28, 2014
We protest Roe v Wade because the Courts have usurped the rights of citizens.

We can fix Roe v Wade with personhood laws. Life shouldn't be taken from people just because they are too young or old to stand up for their own rights.

It used to be liberal to defend human life.

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#326363 Aug 28, 2014
Brian_G wrote:
We protest Roe v Wade because the Courts have usurped the rights of citizens.
We can fix Roe v Wade with personhood laws.
Sure. All you have to do is show that a zygote, embyro, or fetus is a person.

“CO2 is Gaseous Love”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#326364 Aug 28, 2014
Or all you have to do is show pictures of the Mother's child in the stage of zygote, embryo, fetus or a model at a later stage. Knowledge is power; maybe mothers will be slower to murder their children after seeing their child's beauty.

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#326365 Aug 28, 2014
Brian_G wrote:
Or all you have to do is show pictures of the Mother's child in the stage of zygote, embryo, fetus or a model at a later stage. Knowledge is power; maybe mothers will be slower to murder their children after seeing their child's beauty.
Most abortions occur at a time when the ZEF looks like little more than a large odd-shaped bean.

Up until later stages of pregnancy, ZEFs are not people in any meaningful way.

“CO2 is Gaseous Love”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#326366 Aug 28, 2014
Then you stand against late term abortion, for life and adoption where appropriate? ZEFs are very young people who have nobody to protect them but the state.

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#326367 Aug 28, 2014
Brian_G wrote:
Then you stand against late term abortion, for life and adoption where appropriate? ZEFs are very young people who have nobody to protect them but the state.
Yes, I am against late-term abortion (unless for medical reasons).

What would you consider the most important defining aspects of a 'person'?

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#326369 Aug 28, 2014
SevenTee wrote:
<quoted text>
Look at the history of abortion.......Women ddin't have abortions very often when it was illegal.
They got married if they were pregnant.
You're obviously not getting it. No court in the world can make a woman want to be pregnant whether she's married or not. Adoption is not the answer to an unwanted pregnancy neither is marriage.
Maybe you had to get married because you were pregnant but there is no way you know for a fact that women didn't have abortions "very often" when it was illegal. The history of abortion says your misinformed.
Big Sky

Newark, OH

#326370 Aug 28, 2014
Brian_G wrote:
Or all you have to do is show pictures of the Mother's child in the stage of zygote, embryo, fetus or a model at a later stage. Knowledge is power; maybe mothers will be slower to murder their children after seeing their child's beauty.
That's the 'slippery slope,' some people getting to decide 'who' or 'when' any human is a person in a meaningful way.
fyi

Teague, TX

#326371 Aug 29, 2014
So are the restrictions on abortions causing them to decrease, did legalization cause them to increase?

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/its-reall...
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/31/magazine/th...

You can 'believe' whatever you want, but we really don't 'know' based on hard data.

Tell me when this thread is updated:

Subscribe Now Add to my Tracker

Add your comments below

Characters left: 4000

Please note by submitting this form you acknowledge that you have read the Terms of Service and the comment you are posting is in compliance with such terms. Be polite. Inappropriate posts may be removed by the moderator. Send us your feedback.

NCAA Basketball Discussions

Title Updated Last By Comments
News Barack Obama, our next President (Nov '08) 7 min sonicfilter 1,479,364
What role do you think humans play in global wa... (Sep '14) 22 min Patriot AKA Bozo 10,674
News UCLA FOOTBALL NOTEBOOK: Neuheisel says Prince w... (Sep '10) 2 hr Trojan 32,714
News Western Michigan heads to Illinois as a favorite 9 hr Go Blue Forever 75
legitimate loan lender (Oct '13) 11 hr louis 19
News Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex ma... (Aug '10) Jan 15 RiccardoFire 201,892
News Atheism requires as much faith as religion? (Jul '09) Jan 15 Rosa_Winkel 258,461
More from around the web