Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision

Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision

There are 337021 comments on the Newsday story from Jan 22, 2008, titled Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision. In it, Newsday reports that:

Thousands of abortion opponents marched from the National Mall to the Supreme Court on Tuesday in their annual remembrance of the court's Roe v. Wade decision.

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#326040 Jul 28, 2014
Sassyjm wrote:
<quoted text> You are inconsistent. Your conscience getting the better of you is the core of your shaky 'gray area'.
Support choice or don't. How's that for simple?
How am I inconsistent?

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#326041 Jul 28, 2014
Sassyjm wrote:
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We have MILLIONS of abortions(and that is not including miscarriages) from women using birth control. The rest COULD be and don't.
Without birth control, there would be more unwanted pregnancies, and thus more abortions.
Sassyjm wrote:
Now,personally I am against artificial birth control
Your opposition to birth control, which I'm sure is completely irrational, leads to more abortions.
Sassyjm wrote:
Nah,they will risk it and then cry victim of their own stupidity meanwhile the abortion companies make a fortune off keeping women down.
They're not keeping women down in any way. Abortions are elective. You seek to restrict women's options - THAT is keeping them down.

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#326042 Jul 28, 2014
Sassyjm wrote:
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We have MILLIONS of abortions(and that is not including miscarriages) from women using birth control. The rest COULD be and don't.
Now,personally I am against artificial birth control,but I know how to abstain when I needed to for the purpose of avoiding pregnancy. That,my dear,is not being naive,that is being smart and realistic.
I doubt women are having sex 24/7/365 days a year so they CAN abstain when fertile and hump away like freakin rabbits the rest of the month. They won't die last time I checked.
Nah,they will risk it and then cry victim of their own stupidity meanwhile the abortion companies make a fortune off keeping women down. Come ON women,wake up,use your brains.
You didn't answer my question about the 4 forms of BC from the Hobby Lobby case. How do they cause abortions?
feces for jesus

Brooklyn, NY

#326044 Jul 28, 2014
Sassyjm wrote:
<quoted text> You are inconsistent. Your conscience getting the better of you is the core of your shaky 'gray area'.
Support choice or don't. How's that for simple?
OMG, you're been harping on the same BS for years now.

You talk a big talk and yet your hypocrisy shines even brighter. You claim to be pro-life, but you said you'd rather your daughter be dead than your daughter have an abortion. You claim to be pro-"life", but you're really not.... you're pro-what-I-want-for-my-life.

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#326045 Jul 28, 2014
Sassyjm wrote:
<quoted text>
""""" Because I'll tell you what, this issue is so gray you'd be hard pressed to find anyone completely black or completely white, and if you do, I think 'both' are a little bit looney.(as most would..... accept for the little bit looney themselves.)""" ""
How in the world can anyone find themselves in a gray area regarding elective abortion? You either support elective abortion which sums up to giving a woman complete control over her pregnancy or you do not. REAL simple. NO restrictions involved-abort on demand til the baby i completely out of the moms body or not. REAL simple.
People who find themselves in this "gray" area are nothing more than cowards and bullsh*tters. They want mom to have full control but they really don't. They don't think that baby deserves protection/rights but then they do after the restriction deadline.
Say what you mean,mean what you say or don't expect anyone to have any respect for your immature,inconsistent, talking out of both sides of your mouth,opinion.
Oh and FTR,you've insulted many on your proabort side by calling them looneys for agreeing with giving a woman a choice to electively abort til month 9 of the pregnancy. I think that it is hysterical that not ONE will call you out on it. Expected,but still.
Sorry, you can think what you want about me. Your opinion of me doesn't really matter (but I will take out the time, and give you a response)
After 14 or so weeks - max 16, that ship has sailed to get an elective abortion (that's my opinion) and after that, unless there is a medical concern regarding the pregnancy/woman, my opinion is too bad, maybe next time you can make the cut off date. So to answer your question, I support elective abortions until 14 weeks. There, there ya go. Run with that. Is it gray? Yup. Sorry.
If my opinion has you thinking I'm a coward, then I'm a coward. okay.
But seriously, out of most the people here, my opinion means squat. I can't do anything about your laws, I can't vote for anyone regarding this issue. You can change my opinion, and lets say you do... so what? The PC are already in power here, and they're Canada's best chance at changing the laws regarding abortion, but you know what? That's never gonna happen. Not in the near future anyways.... The Canadian Health Care pays for ALL abortions, regardless how long the woman has been pregnant (including LTA)
Talking both sides of the mouth? Sure, if that's what my opinion is, then again, okay.
And yup, I think they're a loony if aborting a baby in the 8th month just because, and they're okay with that... total loony. Just the same as I think a person trying to stand in the way of a woman getting an abortion or abortion pill is a loony when it's done shorty after they find out the news that they are pregnant.... total loony. So what?

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#326046 Jul 28, 2014
Sassyjm wrote:
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""""" forcing them to write me off as being a complete moron.(as pretty much all anti-vaxxers are"""" ""
So all anti-vaxxers are morons? Anyone who disagrees with you is a moron? Interesting. I suppose you've done much research on this and not just had this idea shoved down your throat? mhm.
Oh nooooooo! This COULD cause a problem here.
Playa? Aren't you anti-vax?
Lala is anti-HPV vax.
I'm not a delicate flower when it comes to my opinion. There are 3 hot topics where if people don't agree with me, I think they're a moron in that area.
I'm so strongly pro-vaccinate, that I think that anyone that disagrees with me in that area is a moron. Do you need me to repeat that? And ya, regarding vaccines, I have done a lot of research.... and I would go more in-depth if this were the place to do so, but it's not.
Nor the fact that I'm very pro-death penalty, and I sure wish Canada would bring that back, and I don't care if I have to pay a little bit more in taxes to axe a mother effer. I have no problem with that. And the people that don't agree with the Death penalty - Morons.
Are they all around morons? No. Just morons in that area.... are we clear sassy.... I ASKED IF WE WERE CLEAR! hahahahhahahhhah I'm pro-choice, pro-vaccine, and pro-death penalty.
Sassyjm

Cresskill, NJ

#326047 Jul 28, 2014
The_Box wrote:
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How am I inconsistent?
Do you support a womans choice to electively abort up until the 9th month,..the day when labor starts even? Yes or no?

If you answer yes,then you are pro-choice.

If you answer no,then you are anti-choice.

*sigh* I am hoping that I get a yes or no answer THIS time from someone.
Sassyjm

Cresskill, NJ

#326048 Jul 28, 2014
The_Box wrote:
<quoted text>
Without birth control, there would be more unwanted pregnancies, and thus more abortions.
<quoted text>
Your opposition to birth control, which I'm sure is completely irrational, leads to more abortions.
<quoted text>
They're not keeping women down in any way. Abortions are elective. You seek to restrict women's options - THAT is keeping them down.
Again,MORE THAN HALF of abortion performed where done on woman using birth control. The REST were done on those who didn't use birth control at all. While *I* oppose "artificial birth control",MANY don't,so how are my beliefs that you consider "irrational",leading to more abortions?*I* am not the one getting pregnant because *I* will abstain if I have too.

""""" ""You seek to restrict women's options - THAT is keeping them down"""" "

Do you agree with restrictions on pregnant women up until the 9th month like MOST of your proabortion friends do? If so,then YOU are just as guilty of 'keeping women down' as you just accused me of. Tell your side that they are 'keeping women down' too okay? You WILL right?

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#326049 Jul 28, 2014
Sassyjm wrote:
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Do you support a womans choice to electively abort up until the 9th month,..the day when labor
starts even? Yes or no?
No, virtually no people do.
Sassyjm wrote:
If you answer yes,then you are pro-choice.
If you answer no,then you are anti-choice.
Your personal definitions are neither interesting nor relevant to the debate.
Sassyjm

Cresskill, NJ

#326050 Jul 28, 2014
The_Box wrote:
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You didn't answer my question about the 4 forms of BC from the Hobby Lobby case. How do they cause abortions?
IUD's cause early abortions as do the birth control pill. Women STILL can conceive the offspring child while using birth control methods. These contraceptives will destroy the fertilized egg(aka new unique life of your child). Are you aware that even clomid(which is used to help a woman get pregnant)can cause abortions because it thins the lining of the uterus causing miscarriage?

Do some research. To be honest with you,I am shocked at the ignorance displayed on these forums by such grown women. Educate yourselves ladies. Sheesh.

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#326051 Jul 28, 2014
Sassyjm wrote:
Again,MORE THAN HALF of abortion performed where done on woman using birth control. The REST were done on those who didn't use birth control at all.
You think this is a meaningful statistic, but it's not. The fact of the matter is, if fewer people used contraception, there would be more unwanted pregnancies, and thus more abortions.
Sassyjm wrote:
While *I* oppose "artificial birth control",MANY don't,so how are my beliefs that you consider "irrational",leading to more abortions?
Because you likely support political candidates and policies which are also anti-contraception.
Sassyjm wrote:
Do you agree with restrictions on pregnant women up until the 9th month like MOST of your proabortion friends do? If so,then YOU are just as guilty of 'keeping women down' as you just accused me of.
Freedoms can be restricted when there is good reason to do so. I feel there is good reason to prohibit later-term abortions, but no good reason to prohibit early-term abortions.
Sassyjm

Cresskill, NJ

#326052 Jul 28, 2014
R C Honey wrote:
<quoted text>Sorry, you can think what you want about me. Your opinion of me doesn't really matter (but I will take out the time, and give you a response)
After 14 or so weeks - max 16, that ship has sailed to get an elective abortion (that's my opinion) and after that, unless there is a medical concern regarding the pregnancy/woman, my opinion is too bad, maybe next time you can make the cut off date. So to answer your question, I support elective abortions until 14 weeks. There, there ya go. Run with that. Is it gray? Yup. Sorry.
If my opinion has you thinking I'm a coward, then I'm a coward. okay.
But seriously, out of most the people here, my opinion means squat. I can't do anything about your laws, I can't vote for anyone regarding this issue. You can change my opinion, and lets say you do... so what? The PC are already in power here, and they're Canada's best chance at changing the laws regarding abortion, but you know what? That's never gonna happen. Not in the near future anyways.... The Canadian Health Care pays for ALL abortions, regardless how long the woman has been pregnant (including LTA)
Talking both sides of the mouth? Sure, if that's what my opinion is, then again, okay.
And yup, I think they're a loony if aborting a baby in the 8th month just because, and they're okay with that... total loony. Just the same as I think a person trying to stand in the way of a woman getting an abortion or abortion pill is a loony when it's done shorty after they find out the news that they are pregnant.... total loony. So what?
I never said that you're not entitled to you opinion. We are discussing life or death for another humans life here,so this is where one musn't get to wishy-washy Rachel. I've heard women who have aborted tell us that one abortion is acceptable but more than that is looney and that they need pyscho help. I mean,COME ON,ya know? All these gray areas regarding anothers life as "if"we had the right to decide someone elses fate based on our opinions of their life. Killing another humans life in the first trimester is no different than waiting till month 8 in the womb or out of the womb. Holy crap,this kind of irrational thinking is barbaric.

What I expect from someone like you is to not call someone out for speaking THEIR opinions and doing morally what they need to say and do to help save a life,if YOU think that you have a right to speak yours so openly(as you even did regarding calling anti-vaxxers morons).

One minute your pro-womans choice-which equates to F the baby,to F the mothers choice and protect the baby. You people convince yourselves that YOUR opinion is acceptable but sit here day after day calling me out for saying what I want. THIS is the problem here.

Again,this is not about MY opinion or YOUR opinions(that change as you decide),it is about anothers life. Who are you to say that women SHOULD have their rights/privacy/choices but then take them away? Who are you to say that an unborn child SHOULDN'T have their rights/protection but then the next minute they should?

I appreciate your answers and honesty though. Can't seem to get much of that from your side.

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#326053 Jul 28, 2014
Sassyjm wrote:
<quoted text> IUD's cause early abortions as do the birth control pill.
No, they do not.
Sassyjm wrote:
Women STILL can conceive the offspring child while using birth control methods. These contraceptives will destroy the fertilized egg(aka new unique life of your child).
Abortions end pregnancies. Non-implanted fertilized eggs do not constitute a pregnancy. Therefore, medications which prevent implantation are not abortions. These are basic definitions. You do not get to alter them for your convenience.

Furthermore, there is no positive evidence that drugs like emergency contraception alter the endometrial lining in order to prevent implantation. Regular hormonal birth control pills do cause a change, but it is not known if it is sufficient to prevent implantation.
Sassyjm wrote:
Do some research. To be honest with you,I am shocked at the ignorance displayed on these forums by such grown women. Educate yourselves ladies. Sheesh.
The ignorance in on your end, Sassy. You're dependent on dishonest definition changes, speculation, and outright errors.

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#326054 Jul 28, 2014
Sassyjm wrote:
Educate yourselves ladies. Sheesh.
I'm also not a woman.
Sassyjm

Cresskill, NJ

#326055 Jul 28, 2014
R C Honey wrote:
<quoted text>I'm not a delicate flower when it comes to my opinion. There are 3 hot topics where if people don't agree with me, I think they're a moron in that area.
I'm so strongly pro-vaccinate, that I think that anyone that disagrees with me in that area is a moron. Do you need me to repeat that? And ya, regarding vaccines, I have done a lot of research.... and I would go more in-depth if this were the place to do so, but it's not.
Nor the fact that I'm very pro-death penalty, and I sure wish Canada would bring that back, and I don't care if I have to pay a little bit more in taxes to axe a mother effer. I have no problem with that. And the people that don't agree with the Death penalty - Morons.
Are they all around morons? No. Just morons in that area.... are we clear sassy.... I ASKED IF WE WERE CLEAR! hahahahhahahhhah I'm pro-choice, pro-vaccine, and pro-death penalty.
I suppose you will get no smack-down for calling people morons and judging others who don't agree with you now that you admitted being pro-choice. Apparently,ONLY prolifers are not allowed to judge or call people morons. ALL the trolling proaborts hide in the shadows and patiently await ANY prolifer who will not show love and compassion to all even if they disagree with them.

I disagree with you about quite a few things and would love to debate things peacefully.. I don't think that people are morons who disagree with me. I wish people would educate themselves on the pros and cons of different issue to make a fair judgement on the issues instead of being forced fed something and taking it at face value.

I DO however,think that people are evil if they support killing their own child/fetus/offspring while developing in the womb as "choice". There is a difference. Not ONE proabort person would hesitate to call me out on calling someone evil but I betchaa a million dollars that they would not hesitate to call Susan Smith or a woman who killed her seconds old newborn evil.

See the hypocriscy that I despise so passionately?
Sassyjm

Cresskill, NJ

#326057 Jul 28, 2014
The_Box wrote:
<quoted text>
No, they do not.
<quoted text>
Abortions end pregnancies. Non-implanted fertilized eggs do not constitute a pregnancy. Therefore, medications which prevent implantation are not abortions. These are basic definitions. You do not get to alter them for your convenience.
Furthermore, there is no positive evidence that drugs like emergency contraception alter the endometrial lining in order to prevent implantation. Regular hormonal birth control pills do cause a change, but it is not known if it is sufficient to prevent implantation.
<quoted text>
The ignorance in on your end, Sassy. You're dependent on dishonest definition changes, speculation, and outright errors.
At conception,a NEW,UNIQUE human life is created. The fertilized egg(which is your biological child/offspring)will travel towards the womb to receive nourishment. It will then travel towards the birth canal where it will exit. Once born,it will seek nourishment once again from your breasts.

In other words,location *OF* that human doesn't make them unhuman. That human might even implant on the fallopian tubes. The woman is pregnant. We find out early on(earlier than EVER before)that we are pregnant due to our hormonal change.

Abortion ends the life of the fertilized egg regardless of its location whether that abortion is spontanous or induced.
Sassyjm

Cresskill, NJ

#326058 Jul 28, 2014
The_Box wrote:
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I'm also not a woman.


Didn't sound like you were one,but I suppose that doesn't mean that you shouldn't educate yourself on how a womans body operates.

Btw I was talking about women in general educating themselves about their bodies. I did say *you* but I was referring to just you even if you were a woman :)
Sassyjm

Cresskill, NJ

#326059 Jul 28, 2014
Yeah, so,I think that I will go for now,I am getting tired. Rightfully so because "The good fight is tiring when the opposition rejects reality and substitutes its own".

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#326060 Jul 28, 2014
Sassyjm wrote:
<quoted text> At conception,a NEW,UNIQUE human life is created. The fertilized egg(which is your biological child/offspring)will travel towards the womb to receive nourishment. It will then travel towards the birth canal where it will exit. Once born,it will seek nourishment once again from your breasts.
In other words,location *OF* that human doesn't make them unhuman. That human might even implant on the fallopian tubes. The woman is pregnant. We find out early on(earlier than EVER before)that we are pregnant due to our hormonal change.
Abortion ends the life of the fertilized egg regardless of its location whether that abortion is spontanous or induced.
That is not the definition of an abortion. If you believe actions which prevent implantation of a fertilized egg are immoral, that's your opinion, but to call it abortion is simply false.

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#326063 Jul 28, 2014
SevenTee wrote:
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You are the most vile hate filled person I have ever seen on these threads, and that is saying something.
Anyone who justifies murder of children is not worthy of a response from me.
Anyone who is "troubled" but turns around and makes justifications is a really really sick disgusting person. In short go to he11
BTW - the intrusion of Government in our lives is all over this......they are making it legal to murder their own citizens. I can't think of anything more intrusive than killing people.
Well then, thank you for not responding--I honestly appreciate it.
"The most vile, and hate-filled person you've ever seen on these threads," Either you haven't gotten around a whole lot on Topix, or I'm clearly moving up in the world.

I'd ask you to clarify that, but since I'm not worthy of a response from you, I suppose I'll just have to use my imagination...

Toodles!
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