Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision

Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision

There are 346380 comments on the Newsday story from Jan 22, 2008, titled Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision. In it, Newsday reports that:

Thousands of abortion opponents marched from the National Mall to the Supreme Court on Tuesday in their annual remembrance of the court's Roe v. Wade decision.

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Sassyjm

Cresskill, NJ

#326147 Aug 11, 2014
The_Box wrote:
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Medications which affect implantation are not abortifacients. An abortion, by definition, occurs after implantation.
Medications that are taken or devices used to prevent a pregnancy that CAN affect implantation are in fact abortificants.

This in not new information btw. I am not sure why,I mean we ALL know that women can and do get pregnant while using these medications or devices,so what do people think is going to happen.

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#326148 Aug 11, 2014
Sassyjm wrote:
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Medications that are taken or devices used to prevent a pregnancy that CAN affect implantation are in fact abortificants.
Abortions end pregnancies. A pregnancy requires implantation.

If an action is taken that prevents implantation, then pregnancy never occurs, and it cannot be an abortion.
Sassyjm

Cresskill, NJ

#326149 Aug 11, 2014
STO wrote:
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Shouldn't everyone have religious freedom? Is it for employer's to decide what health care an employee should and should not have? Apparently it is. Problem is, the employer's right to practice his/her religion trumps the employee's right to same, per the Supreme Court. The only targeted group for this religious discrimination in health care is this group called "women". These women must have equal religious freedom or, to hell with it -- our Constitution is meaningless. The solution I suggest is single payer for women only (men are not being targeted). This would ensure religious freedom for every woman in the nation, as well as these crackpot religious nuts like the Hobby Lobby owners. Everybody wins.
""""" Is it for employer's to decide what health care an employee should and should not have?"""" "

Welcome to the 21st century where employers DO decide what health care an employee should or shouldn't have.

Like I've said,we pay over a thousand dollars a month for our insurance and it doesn't pay for MY choice of preventive and alternative health care because they don't agree with it. We have to pay out of our pockets.

Boo freakin hoo for me? I tried that already lol and . I kick and scream and nobody like you cares.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#326150 Aug 11, 2014
Thinning the endometrium before implantation isn't abortion. Also, the endometrium can be thinned by many other drugs, or just be the woman's own systemic fluctuations. None of that is an abortion.
Sassyjm wrote:
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""""one effect of the pill Can be TO CREATE A POOR ENVIRONMENT for IMPLANTATION ....by thinning the endometrial lining.""" ""
Rose,we have been telling you this for many years now. That is why the pill CAN be an abortificant. Women can get pregnant while on the pill or by using the IUD. The IUD is also an abortificant.
*sigh*I don't understand why nobody listens on these forums. We are trying to educate people but many people become so hostile to hearing others thus missing out on alot of facts.
Sassyjm

Cresskill, NJ

#326151 Aug 11, 2014
SevenTee wrote:
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I know that, Christians are sinners who are lied to by the abortionists just like everyone else
I agree. But then there are some who are not practicing their beliefs and get sexually involved while not married which goes against God. They find themselves pregnant and freak out. They become bait for the proabortion deception/lies.

Once they abort,nobody is there to pick up the pieces. Their mental and physical state/well being is nobodies concern suddenly. She becomes forgotten about. Their mission is to fight for her right to kill her child-day and night-year after year ONLY.

:( I've seen it wayyy too many times.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#326152 Aug 11, 2014
How pathetic is your god that a condom can thwart him, or the use of a pill or an IUD?
Sassyjm wrote:
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""""" """"" "AGAIN I JUST READ THIS ...
And yes I know the RCC is against all forms besides NFP ( which does go contrary to the ONLY bible references or laws on the subject ) their Times to have relations were EXACTLY at times,of fertility , if you add in unclean days and days of purification...amazing the medical knowledge God imparted in His,laws ..."""" ""
Yet ANOTHER ex-Catholic who is completely clueless about the religion she rejected.
The RCC is against "artificial" forms of birth control. It is against having sex WHILE blocking Gods opportunity to create a new,unique life from that sex act(which he intended for the procreation of mankind while the woman is fertile). So,NFP does not "go contrary to the ONLY bible reference or law on the subject".
Please,with all due respect,stop deliberately spreading false information. God said to "go and multiply",not "EVERYtime you are fertile you MUST have sex". NFP is refraining from sex "if" for a very important reason,you MUST avoid pregnancy at that time. That includes any sexual activity. NOTHING is wrong with not having sex Rose. The problem is having sex WHILE fertile (which God intended for the opportunity if he wants to create a life)and telling God that you won't stay open for life.
This saddens me that people can be so ignorant in this day and age. Like I've said to other ex-Catholics or anti-God people,at least know what you're rejecting berfore you reject it.
STO

Vallejo, CA

#326153 Aug 11, 2014
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>Should a female employee wish to choose one of the four legal forms of contraceptives, the court found she can if she pays with her own money.
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<quoted text>No company gifts healthcare to its employees, it is a negotiated benefit, not a gift.
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<quoted text>They can pay for whatever they want, the law says their employers aren't forced to pay for abortifacients.
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<quoted text>Those aren't gifts either, holiday pay is mandated by federal law. Now you're learning, the more government regulation of employment, the less significant the citizen.
Joe Biden sponsored the Religious Freedom Restoration Act and Obama selected him as vice president.
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<quoted text>Take away the tax benefit employers get by providing health care with income sheltered from income tax and give it to employees. I don't dislike women so I can't advocate single payer for them. Obamacare is bad enough as is; delay defund and repeal.
Clearly, you're missing the point. These employees are earning their health benefit. Therefore. they are paying for their health insurance. It's not a gift. It's not a bonus.

An employer should not have the power to deduct coverage from anyone's policy, especially when their motive is based on bogus science. They believe four different contraceptives are abortifacients. They are not. No implantation = no pregnancy to abort.

Don't like single payer? Here's another solution: The employer can compensate for health coverage in cash, and the employee can take the cash and go find a policy that better suits her needs.

What is your solution to separate an employer's religion from an employee's health insurance policy?

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#326154 Aug 11, 2014
A slut is always someone who has had one more sex partner than you have, or is not as frigid as you are.
Sassyjm wrote:
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What is a slut in your opinion?
I am sure that we are all on the same page regarding what constitutes a slut.
Sassyjm

Cresskill, NJ

#326155 Aug 11, 2014
The_Box wrote:
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Abortions end pregnancies. A pregnancy requires implantation.
If an action is taken that prevents implantation, then pregnancy never occurs, and it cannot be an abortion.
Yes,abortion ends pregnancies. THAT is what I am saying.

Obviously if the woman doesn't get pregnant then no abortion can take place.

BUT,women do and can get pregnant while using the pill or IUD and it CAN cause an early abortion during implantation or before even. THAT is what I am saying.

A new life is created at conception. It then travels to the uterus,then it exists the uterus.

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#326156 Aug 11, 2014
Sassyjm wrote:
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I agree. But then there are some who are not practicing their beliefs and get sexually involved while not married which goes against God.
Your religious beliefs are irrelevant to our laws.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#326157 Aug 11, 2014
There is NO pregnancy until implantation is successful. Even without the use of pharmaceuticals, the body may still clear out the endometrium in the monthly cycle even if the blastocyte is attaching. Abortofacients by definition cannot do a thing if there is no successful implantation.
Sassyjm wrote:
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Medications that are taken or devices used to prevent a pregnancy that CAN affect implantation are in fact abortificants.
This in not new information btw. I am not sure why,I mean we ALL know that women can and do get pregnant while using these medications or devices,so what do people think is going to happen.

“Make time ”

Since: Sep 09

for contemplation

#326158 Aug 11, 2014
Sassyjm wrote:
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IMO you people took what CL said out of context. Everyone that was a proabort ganged up on him because he was prolife and what he said was a perfect way to attempt to change the subject.
""""he recognized just how badly out of line and indefensible that insensitive and nauseating comment came across"""" ""
Came across. Exactly! it "came across" to you as something that was not intended.
Yes, I did mean that it came across very, very wrong. Much like your post of wishing your daughter dead.

CL and Mary were not deliberately cruel men. And neither are you - for the most part - but you sure can be one rotten ugly person when the spirit moves you. Which happens with alarming frequency.

I can wait (please take your time), for your nasty rebuttal. Please, don't let me down. I would hate to think well of you.
Sassyjm

Cresskill, NJ

#326159 Aug 11, 2014
cpeter1313 wrote:
Thinning the endometrium before implantation isn't abortion. Also, the endometrium can be thinned by many other drugs, or just be the woman's own systemic fluctuations. None of that is an abortion.
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Nobody said that "thinning the endometruium before implantation" is an abortion. What I said was that the pill can cause early abortions.

And YES,I agree that endometrium can be thinned by many other drugs. But knowing that your birth control pill or IUD can cause pregnancy and chance an early abortion DUE to it,is deliberate.

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#326160 Aug 11, 2014
Sassyjm wrote:
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BUT,women do and can get pregnant while using the pill or IUD and it CAN cause an early abortion during implantation or before even. THAT is what I am saying.
I know what you're saying. You're wrong.

An abortion can ONLY occur AFTER implantation, by definition.
Sassyjm

Cresskill, NJ

#326161 Aug 11, 2014
The_Box wrote:
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Your religious beliefs are irrelevant to our laws.
What does my religious beliefs have to do with what I posted?
Sassyjm

Cresskill, NJ

#326162 Aug 11, 2014
cpeter1313 wrote:
How pathetic is your god that a condom can thwart him, or the use of a pill or an IUD?
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Our free will choices aren't always Gods will.

You are clearly anti-God. Okay,I got that.

Are you still after all these years trying to impress or shock anyone with that? Such intolerance for others beliefs.
STO

Vallejo, CA

#326163 Aug 11, 2014
Sassyjm wrote:
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""""" Is it for employer's to decide what health care an employee should and should not have?"""" "
Welcome to the 21st century where employers DO decide what health care an employee should or shouldn't have.
Like I've said,we pay over a thousand dollars a month for our insurance and it doesn't pay for MY choice of preventive and alternative health care because they don't agree with it. We have to pay out of our pockets.
Boo freakin hoo for me? I tried that already lol and . I kick and scream and nobody like you cares.
Are you saying your health insurance policy covered the preventive and alternative health care you were happy with, then suddenly your employer yanked them out of your policy because your employer disagreed with said health care, based only on religious grounds?

I would care, if it were true. Especially, if the price of the policy didn't drop some.

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#326164 Aug 11, 2014
Sassyjm wrote:
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What does my religious beliefs have to do with what I posted?
You made an appeal to your god's opinions.

“Make time ”

Since: Sep 09

for contemplation

#326165 Aug 11, 2014
cpeter1313 wrote:
How pathetic is your god that a condom can thwart him, or the use of a pill or an IUD?
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Peter! It's not like that at all - it's a free will thing. Except Catholics don't like others having free will because that makes them co-conspirators. If a Catholic finds sin (after spending hours searching) in others, it's their duty to report to others immediately the sin they uncovered (gossip, likely malicious).

Frankly, I'm surprised you didn't know - it places the pious firmly inside the Pearly Gates without submitting to an extensive, exhaustive personal review.
:-)
Sassyjm

Cresskill, NJ

#326166 Aug 11, 2014
cpeter1313 wrote:
There is NO pregnancy until implantation is successful. Even without the use of pharmaceuticals, the body may still clear out the endometrium in the monthly cycle even if the blastocyte is attaching. Abortofacients by definition cannot do a thing if there is no successful implantation.
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Yes,it is called a spontaneous abortion(miscarriage) when the body "clears out the endometrrium".

The pill or IUD can cause abortion after implantation.

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