Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision

Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision

There are 317632 comments on the Newsday story from Jan 22, 2008, titled Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision. In it, Newsday reports that:

Thousands of abortion opponents marched from the National Mall to the Supreme Court on Tuesday in their annual remembrance of the court's Roe v. Wade decision.

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“Truly Pro-Life”

Since: Nov 11

Proudly Pro-choice

#324846 May 10, 2014
Ink wrote:
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You seemed to place the ability to sleep well on an empty head. Guess you would be in that boat too.
Keep guessing - you missed it that time.

If I have trouble sleeping, it's usually because I ate too much at dinner. My conscience is quite clear about my abortion, AND my advocacy that abortion remain legal, safe, and accessible.

Next....

“CO2 is Gaseous Love”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#324848 May 10, 2014
not a playa1965 wrote:
All very well for you to claim to be coldly dispassionate, and thus render judgment in your sense of 'morality', Brian - except that it's patently obvious your stance is predicated ENTIRELY on emotion: the emotion of repugnance at the idea of abortion.
We understand that you find it entirely distasteful, and even disgusting, that women's rights to bodily autonomy, personal risk assessment, and self-defense, are recognized by the courts, as including the right to terminate a pregnancy for reasons of which you don't approve - and you do approve of at least three reasons a pregnancy may be terminated - but, and this is very important, YOU are not the one who is pregnant, therefore YOU are completely immaterial to the morality of abortion. Yes, that's right: YOU are completely immaterial to the morality of abortion. You will never have one. You will never need one. And you will never know whether or not any given woman has or will have one - so YOUR morality has nothing whatever to do with the decision a woman makes, whether to gestate or abort a given pregnancy. Period. All this wailing and gnashing of teeth is utterly futile. And your hypocrisy in believing that SOME abortions are 'acceptable' but others are not, while claiming that ALL abortion is 'murder', obviates the fact that you have very little morality of your own to begin with.Next....
Morality isn't defined by gender. When do you believe the premediated murder of a very young human being is wrong?

Adoption is life, abortion is death. I hope that's clear.

“Truly Pro-Life”

Since: Nov 11

Proudly Pro-choice

#324849 May 10, 2014
SevenTee wrote:
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It takes a man and woman sperm and egg to make a baby . Without both you will not conceive
When both equally CARRY said pregnancy, and both equally share the RISKS of said pregnancy.....you MIGHT have a point.

As it is, well, you don't.

Next....
Ink

Chalfont, PA

#324850 May 10, 2014
John-K wrote:
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Good morning "Ink."
A pleasure as always to "see" you!
We, as a society, are starting to recognize that sex, and sexuality, are not merely as cut-and-dry, black-and-white aspects of life as we once thought/wished them to be.
Unfortunately there is still the perception that all men are, not-so-secretly, "sexual predators," while women are the "sexual prey." This is, of course, an over simplification of that experience we've all had which is the "Human Condition."
We can't escape our basest "animal urges," and there are quite a number of folks who argue we ought to simply embrace it.
However, reality is always more complicated than scientific projections, or pseudo-scientific psychological techno-babble.
Both men and women desire sex. Yes, we desire it in different contexts at times, and at times we desire it in differing "methods." But it seems that the "need" is there, and as much as many of us would like to think that we're "above" such "animal urges," we aren't.
Placing the total onus on the woman with regards to the subject of abortion is, in my opinion, not merely misguided, but wrong.. Both sexes are responsible for any "unintended" pregnancy, and both sexes ought to bear the burden.
You say that, "as long as women make themselves victims..." it isn't really as though women have much of a conscious choice in the matter. Society has already "dictated" what women are to be, and women unwittingly, seem to have bought into that narrative; women must look like one of the Victoria's Secret "Angels," or they aren't attractive. Yes television, magazine and billboard advertizements featuring improbably "beautiful" people are what attract our attention, and that's their raison d'etre --to get our attention. Are advertisers, or we, as a society sending the not-so-subliminal message to women that "unless you're like this, you're not worth anyone else's time?"
We, as a society, are extremely hypocritical; we constantly sexualize women, then we collectively chastise them when they act "sexually." This, in my opinion, shows up most clearly in the abortion debate...the woman is always the one at fault, the man who contributed to her unintended pregnancy is conspicuously absent.
Hey John, how's it going?

The onus is on the woman because she is the one in control of the situation. Men only say 'yes', she can say 'yes or no'. The man will bear the burden if she 'chooses' to have the child but as I so often read here the women don't want the father to have any imput. It seems they want to have their cake and eat it too.

I also think that the part of society that sexualizes women are women. Folks like Beyonce, Miley Cyrus or even the models who offer up their skin for a fee.

Look around at the happily married women and men for that matter, they aren't the playboy models, they are ordinary folks who found something deep and admirable in their partners.

I agree with you but I also disagree in a way.
Ink

Chalfont, PA

#324851 May 10, 2014
not a playa1965 wrote:
<quoted text>Keep guessing - you missed it that time.
If I have trouble sleeping, it's usually because I ate too much at dinner. My conscience is quite clear about my abortion, AND my advocacy that abortion remain legal, safe, and accessible.
Next....
Squeeze a half a lemon in a small amout of ginger ale and you will feel better right away.

“Truly Pro-Life”

Since: Nov 11

Proudly Pro-choice

#324852 May 10, 2014
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>Morality isn't defined by gender. When do you believe the premediated murder of a very young human being is wrong?
Adoption is life, abortion is death. I hope that's clear.
Relevance to 'the morality of abortion', however, IS defined by gender. The morality held by a pregnant woman is the only relevant morality Murder is always wrong.

Abortion, however, is not murder. It is killing in self defense, which is only wrong when the pregnant woman feels it is wrong, which is why she also has the choice to continue her pregnancy.

I hope that's clear.
Next....
Ink

Chalfont, PA

#324853 May 10, 2014
SevenTee wrote:
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So you are admitting Women are weak minded?
I thought you liberals wanted to be considered as equal to men?
She is admitting that she put her risk for pregnancy in the hands of man made products that fail a million times a year in this country. It doesn't seem like a bright thing to do when you end up having to take the life of your own child.
Ink

Chalfont, PA

#324854 May 10, 2014
not a playa1965 wrote:
<quoted text>Relevance to 'the morality of abortion', however, IS defined by gender. The morality held by a pregnant woman is the only relevant morality Murder is always wrong.
Abortion, however, is not murder. It is killing in self defense, which is only wrong when the pregnant woman feels it is wrong, which is why she also has the choice to continue her pregnancy.
I hope that's clear.
Next....
This is downright skrewy but I understand that is what you hang on to.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#324855 May 10, 2014
The fetus doesn't have a real, human heart until 20 weeks:
http://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.as...

After birth, anyone can care for the neonate. Before then, the woman is stuck with it and therefore gets to determine if she wishes to do so.
SevenTee wrote:
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"It" has a heartbeat. He or She is alive, this is a medical fact. He or She will need constant care from his or her mother and father until the age of about 6 years.
Question are you going to turn a 6 year old out on the streets to fend for "itself"?

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#324856 May 10, 2014
Abortion is a medical procedure you happen to think is icky. Fine. Don't have one. Other women will make up their own minds.

Reporting a murder, unless you are in a position to make such a report is mandatory, is a choice, and many would not report it to protect their lives or the lives of their loved ones. On the other hand, you have no right to even know if a woman is pregnant, much less decide for her what she can do with her own pregnancy.
Naughtyrobot wrote:
<quoted text>You are a liberal fck. Brian always takes the high road, but I don't. "Hate" is a strong word, so I I will say "loathe" instead. I loathe your flawed thought process. It is thinking like yours that allows things like holocausts and genocide, eugenics and abortion on demand. Abortion, the very word is negative. You work is an abortion,(that is not a compliment). Have you ever witnessed an abortion or a birth? The way you treat miscarriage is awful, it is a devastating experience for a mother.
Carrying a baby is hard work, a miracle that only women can perform. Sometimes it is difficult and even a sacrifice to do the right thing, it does not make it any less right, such as preserving the life of a baby in the womb. Perhaps in other ethical quandries, you would choose the easy way out instead of what is right. You witness a murder, but it is not anyone you know, you don't want to get involved, it might get messy or inconvenient, so you pretend you saw nothing. Same thing.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#324857 May 10, 2014
There are a lot of people who believe in deities. Who cares? You can do what you want with a corpse within legal limits--which are based on public health reasons.

In your case, "little prick" is strictly self-referential.
DAVID27 wrote:
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It wasn't a tangent, dumbbell. And it wasn't irrelevant.
It was YOU that said "Dead tissue is dead tissue; who cares what's done with it?" And he rightly called you on it. Apparently there are a hell of a lot of people who DO care and are not unfeeling, uncaring, disrespectful little pricks like you.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#324858 May 10, 2014
You mean men who are too fu**ing stupid to use condoms or safe sex?
SevenTee wrote:
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So you are admitting Women are weak minded?
I thought you liberals wanted to be considered as equal to men?

“Crybaby men are such a bore”

Since: Mar 14

The wild wild north

#324859 May 10, 2014
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>I wouldn't use the word, "approve", women don't need my permission and this is an issue of morality, not emotion.
apĚprove
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verb
1.
officially agree to or accept as satisfactory.

Are you now denying that you have stated a prochoice stance considering rape, incest or the mothers life? If it is based (by you) on morality explain why you consider murder of the unborn acceptable under the circumstances in which you approve. explain it Brian and quit dancing.
Brian_G wrote:
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<quoted text>You don't believe circumstances and motivations are important when discussing morality? If not, drunk driving is no different from a traffic accident.
I do believe circumstances and motivation are very important when discussing freedom, free will, bodily autonomy, self assessment and best interests. You are selective with your morality considering you consider abortion murder and yet approve of "some".
Brian_G wrote:
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The issue is the life of the child, not how the conception took place. Abortion always results in the murder of a very young and innocent human being.
You are the one allowing for murder of the unborn in the event of rape or incest which indicates how conception took place.
Brian_G wrote:
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Why don't you answer the question about how age effects the crime of murder?
What does age have to do with anything? I haven't a clue what you are referring to.
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>I didn't create morality, don't blame me if you want to promote evil.
You promote misogyny and that my dear is evil. You promote condemning women/girls who seek an abortion for reasons that are unbeknown to you and yet you get to feel noble judging them as "evil". You would be much happier forcing women to bear (labor) unwanted pregnancies to the entire benefit of another and without a single benefit to themselves all to make yourself feel better...moral...upstanding... and all around great guy...right Brian?

“CO2 is Gaseous Love”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#324860 May 10, 2014
Let's consider the case of statutory rape, I support parental notification except in cases of incest. The exception proves the rule; abortion always ends in the murder of an innocent human life.

In the case of the very young unborn, abortion is always wrong.

“2014 TDF”

Since: Mar 09

Boca Raton, FL.

#324861 May 10, 2014
SevenTee wrote:
<quoted text>Why is it a stupid question? You want to drive a spike in the child's brain. There really is no difference.

No you abortionists kill babies at all stages of life. You are an animal
Who told you I want to drive a spike in a child's brain? I'm not a doctor who performs abortions. I'm a man who it's adamant about a woman retaining the choice to abort, if that's her desire.

If you don't feel you have a choice in your pregnancies, I suggest you abstain from sex PERMANENTLY. either that, or use birth control.

And, it was a stupid question

The only animal here is you for believing you can dictate what a woman must do with the contents of HER uterus.

Sheket bevakasha!!

“Truly Pro-Life”

Since: Nov 11

Proudly Pro-choice

#324862 May 10, 2014
Ink wrote:
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She is admitting that she put her risk for pregnancy in the hands of man made products that fail a million times a year in this country. It doesn't seem like a bright thing to do when you end up having to take the life of your own child.
As you well know, I've had a tubal pregnancy aborted, miscarried a total of 6 times, and borne two sons.

I'm admitting that my personal circumstances do not indicate the circumstances of others, nor do the consequences of my actions dictate what consequences others face.

Women are not going to be relegated to a choice between celibacy and gestation only, Ink. it's far to late for that.

We are sexual beings, and we are more than incubators.

Next...

“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON,JESUS Christ

#324863 May 10, 2014
Happy and Blessed Mothers Day to all the,Moms,here...

“CO2 is Gaseous Love”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#324865 May 11, 2014
How about the victims of botched abortions? Does the name Kermit Gosnell ring a bell?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kermit_Gosnell
notaplaya

Tulsa, OK

#324866 May 11, 2014
SevenTee wrote:
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We all have laws and rules to follow, we are all "dictated" to at different levels. For example Do you get to drag race your car at 76 mph through downtown?
Drag racing your car is illegal - BUT, if one does drag race one's car, and gets into a wreck, do we then prohibit the person from seeking needed medical treatment because their actions caused them an injury?
No. We don't. Even though their actions were illegal.
Sex is NOT illegal. If we have sex, and become pregnant, we are not prohibited from seeking medical treatment for that condition - and if the treatment we want is a termination of the pregnancy, then that is the treatment we will have.
This is not rocket science.

“CO2 is Gaseous Love”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#324867 May 11, 2014
notaplaya wrote:
Drag racing your car is illegal - BUT, if one does drag race one's car, and gets into a wreck, do we then prohibit the person from seeking needed medical treatment because their actions caused them an injury? No. We don't. Even though their actions were illegal.
We don't take organs from other living humans without consent, even when that's needed medical treatment.

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notaplaya wrote:
Sex is NOT illegal. If we have sex, and become pregnant, we are not prohibited from seeking medical treatment for that condition - and if the treatment we want is a termination of the pregnancy, then that is the treatment we will have.
Calling abortion a medical treatment is odd, because all other medical treatments save life but abortion always ends an innocent, young human life.

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notaplaya wrote:
This is not rocket science.
Think about the moral issues, I beg you.

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