Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision

Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision

There are 311364 comments on the Newsday story from Jan 22, 2008, titled Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision. In it, Newsday reports that:

Thousands of abortion opponents marched from the National Mall to the Supreme Court on Tuesday in their annual remembrance of the court's Roe v. Wade decision.

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“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#324079 Apr 24, 2014
Since we stopped speaking Latin centuries ago, the only meaningful definition is the modern medical one, which specifically refers to a stage of development of oviparous mammals while gestating inside the female.
4life wrote:
Elise, ummmm actually, a lot of people claim it's not living, the ones who do not, admit that it is living, but they just don't care to kill it.
Btw---I understand you prefer the term "fetus," instead of baby, & that's fine with me. Fetus is Latin for "offspring," and offspring is (drum rolllllll, please) baby.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#324080 Apr 24, 2014
And I haven't seen a story about millions of women not understanding abortion and calling on ignorant zombie-carpenterians to explain it to them.
4life wrote:
To Not a Playa (I can see why, btw),
Ruh Roe (versus Wade,) you've caught me. You're exactly right. As a women myself, my true intentions are to oppress women by telling them killing their children is wrong. Wow. I was wondering when someone was gonna catch on to that.
Did any of you see the horrible story on the news today? There were thousands of women who died in a back alley last week. Oh wait, I didn't see that story, either, because you're full of it. I did see the story about 55 million babies (or fetuses, that's just for you, Elise) being killed.
I hate that there are children who are poor, have deadbeat parents, have a disability that makes them feel "different," but here's the really crazy part, I've never looked at any of them, and thought to myself, "wow, you don't deserve to be here!"
Sorry that you do, but I don't. I think that means I have a heart, or something like that.
And let's stop with the "words" used to beat around the bush (this bush has been beat to death as it is). I am also against abusing children, therefore I do not do that, but I would NOT stand there and do nothing if I saw another person doing it. Dang having it heart. It makes me care for others. You're lucky. Worrying about others takes a lot of energy.
STO

Vallejo, CA

#324081 Apr 24, 2014
4life wrote:
To Not a Playa (I can see why, btw),
Ruh Roe (versus Wade,) you've caught me. You're exactly right. As a women myself, my true intentions are to oppress women by telling them killing their children is wrong. Wow. I was wondering when someone was gonna catch on to that.
Did any of you see the horrible story on the news today? There were thousands of women who died in a back alley last week. Oh wait, I didn't see that story, either, because you're full of it. I did see the story about 55 million babies (or fetuses, that's just for you, Elise) being killed.
I hate that there are children who are poor, have deadbeat parents, have a disability that makes them feel "different," but here's the really crazy part, I've never looked at any of them, and thought to myself, "wow, you don't deserve to be here!"
Sorry that you do, but I don't. I think that means I have a heart, or something like that.
And let's stop with the "words" used to beat around the bush (this bush has been beat to death as it is). I am also against abusing children, therefore I do not do that, but I would NOT stand there and do nothing if I saw another person doing it. Dang having it heart. It makes me care for others. You're lucky. Worrying about others takes a lot of energy.
You missed? the point. Err, pointS. Yeah, you ignored alluvem.

Look, no matter how you want to frame it, pregnant women's civil rights are central to this discussion.

You can scream and shout "Don't have sex! Don't have sex if you don't want to be pregnant!", but you know that tactic has never worked in all of human history. So, maybe, just maybe, you should consider the suggestions NAP outlined for you.

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#324083 Apr 24, 2014
Anybody report this?

Oregon, Dead Babies From Canada, And Obama Conservation.

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/...

Even though there is now a stay of execution from officials of an energy plant in Oregon reportedly burning aborted babies from Canada to generate electricity, blame government-funded environmentalists of the day and their their main ‘Panderer in chief’ President Barack Obama for a coming trend that allows burning babies for electricity.

http://www.lifenews.com/2014/04/23/energy-pla...

Energy Plant in Oregon Burning Aborted Babies From Canada to Generate Electricity

by Steven Ertelt | Vancouver, Canada | LifeNews.com | 4/23/14 4:03 PM

An energy plant in Oregon is reportedly burning aborted babies from Canada to generate electricity. UPDATE: Local officials say they will stop the practice while they look into the situation.
4life

Saint Albans, WV

#324084 Apr 24, 2014
godless by choice wrote:
"4life "
Worrying about others takes a lot of energy.
==========
(translated) I'm a busybody,sticking my nose into other peoples business
Worrying about children ='s "nosy". Wow.
Self-absorbed to that extent should be a disease.
There's a difference in worrying about what your neighbors are doing, than worrying about a child's life. How is that too hard to understand?
4life

Saint Albans, WV

#324085 Apr 24, 2014
not a playa1965 wrote:
<quoted text>If you feel unimportant, that's on you.
"No one can make you feel bad about yourself, unless you let them." -Eleanor Roosevelt.
Hope your day is peachy, Sass.
Next....
ummm, ok then. Pretend as though you did not "get" it. Or wait, maybe you really didn't. That's ok, too. One day. One. Day.
4life

Saint Albans, WV

#324086 Apr 24, 2014
KatieKatieKatie wrote:
<quoted text>
There is a difference between the noun LIVING and the verb LIVING. Perhaps your brainwashed mind might take that into consideration when learning which description applies to the embryo/fetus.
<quoted text>
Speaking of embryo/fetus and your brainwashed mind, why don't you take into consideration your associative belief that fetus = baby = offspring just might be inaccurate?
"fe·tus noun \&#712;f&#275;-t&# 601;s\
: a human being or animal in the later stages of development before it is born
Full Definition of FETUS
: an unborn or unhatched vertebrate especially after attaining the basic structural plan of its kind; specifically : a developing human from usually two months after conception to birth
<snip>
Origin of FETUS
Middle English, from Latin, act of bearing young, offspring; akin to Latin fetus newly delivered, fruitful — more at feminine
First Known Use: 14th century"
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fet...
**********
"1ba·by noun \&#712;b&#257;-b&# 275;\
: a very young child
: a very young animal
: the youngest member of a group
plural babies
Full Definition of BABY
1
a (1): an extremely young child; especially : infant (2): an extremely young animal
b : the youngest of a group
2
a : one that is like a baby (as in behavior)
b : something that is one's special responsibility, achievement, or interest
3
slang
a : girl, woman —often used in address
b : boy, man —often used in address
4
: person, thing <is one tough baby>
<snip>
Origin of BABY
Middle English, from babe
First Known Use: 14th century"
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bab...
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"off·spring noun \&#712;o&#775;f-&# 716;spri&#331;\
: a person's child
: the young of an animal or plant
plural offspring also offsprings
Full Definition of OFFSPRING
1
a : the product of the reproductive processes of an animal or plant : young, progeny
b : child
2
a : product, result <scholarly manuscripts—the labored offsprings of PhDs — Donna Martin>
b : offshoot 1a
<snip>
Origin of OFFSPRING
Middle English ofspring, from Old English, from of off + springan to spring
First Known Use: before 12th century"
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/off...
**********
As Cptr and others keep saying -- words have meanings. Learn these. Then maybe you can stop wringing your hands over your ineffective attempts at controlling other women's pregnancies.
I cannot tell a lie. I did not even read 3 sentences of your response.
Words. Words. More words.
At the end of the words, killing a baby is wrong. Gross!
4life

Saint Albans, WV

#324087 Apr 24, 2014
STO wrote:
<quoted text>
You missed? the point. Err, pointS. Yeah, you ignored alluvem.
Look, no matter how you want to frame it, pregnant women's civil rights are central to this discussion.
You can scream and shout "Don't have sex! Don't have sex if you don't want to be pregnant!", but you know that tactic has never worked in all of human history. So, maybe, just maybe, you should consider the suggestions NAP outlined for you.
Youve confused me with someone who screams, "Don't have sex."
I never once said that. I know that isn't possible. I know that isn't the solution. I also know that I didn't read much of yours, either, because again, killing is wrong. It's barbaric. Most of you do not actually care about women, or their reproductive "rights". That's why you fight against restrictions that would make clinics safer. That's why you don't care that so many women have been physically and emotionally scarred from it.

Since: Mar 14

Lakewood, WA

#324088 Apr 24, 2014
SevenTee wrote:
<quoted text>
No reasonable person is against abortion for a Medical reason under the care of a Physician in a Licensed Medical Hospital.
Adoption is the answer for unwanted children. There are millions of people out there that would love to adopt the Child.
Abortion for Birth Control is nothing short of legalized murder. This baby the mother is choosing to murder is living inside of her body. It is not the mother's body it is the Child's body and deserves a chance at life.
Some day the laws will change because people will wake up to the truth about what is going on in the Abortion Mills of America. Planned Parenthood and other abortion mills make big huge $$$$ off the practice and they ain't about to give up the Cash without a fight. And the abortionists do not give a rats a$$ about the mother or her baby.
Other people's children are not commodities for sale to the infertile. Forced adoption is no different than forced abortion. Civil rights to personal privacy and bodily autonomy mean one person at a time makes a decision to accept or reject a medical condition or medical procedure. None of your fluffy words changes this.

Until the newborn is outside the womb, he/she has no civil rights established. Just like the rest of us living in this country. Would you prefer to live in another country without civil rights? Where the gov't chooses for you? Forces you to abort or adopt out against your will?

Didn't think so. So stop wanting it for other American women.

Since: Mar 14

Lakewood, WA

#324089 Apr 24, 2014
4life wrote:
<quoted text>I cannot tell a lie. I did not even read 3 sentences of your response.
Words. Words. More words.
At the end of the words, killing a baby is wrong. Gross!
And that's why you don't know that words have actual meanings. I see 7yr olds reading the dictionary. Guess they're smarter than you, huhn.

At the end, forcing pregnant women to deny their civil rights to personal privacy and bodily autonomy -- to accept/reject a medical condition or procedure -- is what's gross. Selfish. Disrespectful. Ludicrous.

But you go on your ignorant merry way. Just don't get in mine.

Since: Mar 14

Lakewood, WA

#324090 Apr 24, 2014
4life wrote:
<quoted text>Youve confused me with someone who screams, "Don't have sex."
I never once said that. I know that isn't possible. I know that isn't the solution. I also know that I didn't read much of yours, either, because again, killing is wrong. It's barbaric. Most of you do not actually care about women, or their reproductive "rights". That's why you fight against restrictions that would make clinics safer. That's why you don't care that so many women have been physically and emotionally scarred from it.
You can lie to yourself and think "nobody cares!". Or you can learn some facts. There's nothing proving women are physically and emotionally scarred from terminating unwanted/unhealthy pregnancies.

What is proven are the circumstances surrounding the decision to terminate unhealthy/unwanted pregnancy. And/or an unresolved psychological condition in that same time frame.

As NAP has recently said, deal with those issues -- poverty, free birth control, free daycare, etc., and this country might actually see the annual number of induced abortion continue to go down. You do know the annual number of abortions has been steadily dropping several years now, right? Even before all those ridiculous unreasonable restrictions were put into place. Thank goodness some courts are finding those restriction unconstitutional.

“Truly Pro-Life”

Since: Nov 11

Proudly Pro-choice

#324091 Apr 24, 2014
4life wrote:
<quoted text>ummm, ok then. Pretend as though you did not "get" it. Or wait, maybe you really didn't. That's ok, too. One day. One. Day.
Eventually, fundies always get to the threats..........always.

I get it fine. You don't approve of abortion, but you approve of forced gestation. You don't approve of women killing our children, but when God does it, that's fine. You're heartily in favor of obliging the fertile to gestate for the benefit of the inferts, too. And you don't approve of me.

That about cover it?

Next....

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#324092 Apr 24, 2014
That's hilarious!

Biomedical waste is any biological tissue OR ITS CONTAINERS (used blood bags, syringes), including amputated limbs, and even aborted fetuses Who cares? It's no different than burning animal waste. You want it to lay around and rot? Cremation is cremation, toots.
lightbeamrider wrote:
Anybody report this?
Oregon, Dead Babies From Canada, And Obama Conservation.
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/...
Even though there is now a stay of execution from officials of an energy plant in Oregon reportedly burning aborted babies from Canada to generate electricity, blame government-funded environmentalists of the day and their their main ‘Panderer in chief’ President Barack Obama for a coming trend that allows burning babies for electricity.
http://www.lifenews.com/2014/04/23/energy-pla...
Energy Plant in Oregon Burning Aborted Babies From Canada to Generate Electricity
by Steven Ertelt | Vancouver, Canada | LifeNews.com | 4/23/14 4:03 PM
An energy plant in Oregon is reportedly burning aborted babies from Canada to generate electricity. UPDATE: Local officials say they will stop the practice while they look into the situation.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#324093 Apr 24, 2014
When the fetus is in the woman's body, it's none of your business. How is THAT so hard to understand?
4life wrote:
<quoted text>Worrying about children ='s "nosy". Wow.
Self-absorbed to that extent should be a disease.
There's a difference in worrying about what your neighbors are doing, than worrying about a child's life. How is that too hard to understand?

“Truly Pro-Life”

Since: Nov 11

Proudly Pro-choice

#324094 Apr 24, 2014
SevenTee wrote:
<quoted text>
No reasonable person is against abortion for a Medical reason under the care of a Physician in a Licensed Medical Hospital.
No reasonable person is prepared to declare all abortion illegal....or even immoral. But several million UN-reasonable people are prepared to decide for pregnant women what is 'acceptable self-defense' and what is 'murder' as a function of their personal morality.

Understand - I was given the CHOICE to continue attempting gestation, and had to sign a consent form, before I was able to obtain the abortion that saved my life, and allowed me subsequent motherhood. I cherish that choice, because I love my sons.
SevenTee wrote:
<quoted text>
Adoption is the answer for unwanted children.
....unless the 'unwanted children' are old enough to walk, talk, go to school, and / or have any sort of 'defect'.

Why is it that some of us want the right to pick and choose which kid to adopt, but are revolted by the choice of whether to gestate or not? Could it be that the potential adoptors just want more unwanted kids to choose from?

Yes. Yes it could. I think it is.
SevenTee wrote:
<quoted text>
There are millions of people out there that would love to adopt the Child.
Then the 300 Thousand "unadoptable children", and the millions of un-adopted foster children, in this country, should have been adopted long ago.
SevenTee wrote:
<quoted text>
Abortion for Birth Control is nothing short of legalized murder.
Then so is IVF, in which the killing of embryos is determined to be a factor before they are ever created. QED.
SevenTee wrote:
<quoted text>
This baby the mother is choosing to murder is living inside of her body. It is not the mother's body
Thanks for being honest about your complete and utter disdain for the 'vessel' a woman becomes, during pregnancy. You don't even give her credit for having a body - she's merely an incubator to you.
SevenTee wrote:
<quoted text>
Some day the laws will change because people will wake up to the truth about what is going on in the Abortion Mills of America.
Welcome to capitalism.

(Jobs, jobs, jobs, remember?)
SevenTee wrote:
<quoted text>
Planned Parenthood and other abortion mills make big huge $$$$ off the practiceand they ain't about to give up the Cash without a fight.
Again, that's the goal in a capitalist society. Profit.

You don't see oil and coal companies giving up the cash, even though they're killing the ENTIRE PLANET, either..........

do ya.
SevenTee wrote:
<quoted text>
And the abortionists do not give a rats a$$ about the mother or her baby.
Nether does anyone who would see her obligated to BECOME a mother, regardless of the damage it may do to both parties..........or anyone who wails about having to fork over some dough to help her keep that baby ALIVE after it's born.

Next...
4life

Saint Albans, WV

#324095 Apr 24, 2014
KatieKatieKatie wrote:
<quoted text>
You can lie to yourself and think "nobody cares!". Or you can learn some facts. There's nothing proving women are physically and emotionally scarred from terminating unwanted/unhealthy pregnancies.
What is proven are the circumstances surrounding the decision to terminate unhealthy/unwanted pregnancy. And/or an unresolved psychological condition in that same time frame.
As NAP has recently said, deal with those issues -- poverty, free birth control, free daycare, etc., and this country might actually see the annual number of induced abortion continue to go down. You do know the annual number of abortions has been steadily dropping several years now, right? Even before all those ridiculous unreasonable restrictions were put into place. Thank goodness some courts are finding those restriction unconstitutional.
BAM! Just like that, you accidentally admitted this has nothing to do with your desire to protect women. Who thinks safer clinics is ridiculous and unreasonable? I know plenty of facts, but I don't need 4 million "words" to say that killing unborn children is barbaric. Call it whatever you want (interesting how some call it CIVIL rights--nothing civil about murder) it does not change the FACT that killing is WRONG.
I don't know whether to be shocked, horrified, or both by the "fact" (there's ya another one, right over there--that fact you wanted) that you don't know of all the atrocious stories out there of devastated women who never got over their abortion.

“Truly Pro-Life”

Since: Nov 11

Proudly Pro-choice

#324096 Apr 24, 2014
4life wrote:
<quoted text>BAM! Just like that, you accidentally admitted this has nothing to do with your desire to protect women. Who thinks safer clinics is ridiculous and unreasonable? I know plenty of facts, but I don't need 4 million "words" to say that killing unborn children is barbaric. Call it whatever you want (interesting how some call it CIVIL rights--nothing civil about murder) it does not change the FACT that killing is WRONG.
I don't know whether to be shocked, horrified, or both by the "fact" (there's ya another one, right over there--that fact you wanted) that you don't know of all the atrocious stories out there of devastated women who never got over their abortion.
Sweetheart, those 'devastated women' are the product of a society that tells us we are killers if we act in self-defense against unhealthy pregnancies.

Yes....the part of society which fosters and encourages such self-revulsion, is the part of society to which you lay claim to memebership..........own it.

Next...
4life

Saint Albans, WV

#324098 Apr 25, 2014
not a playa1965 wrote:
<quoted text>
Sweetheart, those 'devastated women' are the product of a society that tells us we are killers if we act in self-defense against unhealthy pregnancies.
Yes....the part of society which fosters and encourages such self-revulsion, is the part of society to which you lay claim to memebership..........own it.
Next...
Thanks for the term of endearment. I really am a sweetheart.
I'm not sure what you mean by 'unhealthy pregnancy' though. Less than 1% of women would have died from the pregnancy, or at least, that's what they were told. 55 million babies have been aborted. Do the Math. Seems a lot of those babies weren't sacrificed for their mothers life. 95% of women who were denied abortion went on to have happy lives. Turns out, they didn't need PP to be their knight and Shiny Instruments.
Or do you mean the baby isn't healthy, or "perfect," as determined by our twisted society? I've never looked at a disabled child and thought they were not as worthy to have their life as I mine.
What about the Kindergarten teacher who chose to kill her baby at 32 weeks, because it might have a seizure disorder? Had she not been brainwashed into thinking that's the only way, I could almost guarantee that she, her husband, and their little girl would be living the life right now. They probably would have fallen in love with their little girl, and they'd be goo'ing at her every move.
Why didn't that happen? Why did it instead end up a bloody, senseless, horrific death for them both? A lot of women are coming out, and they're educating on their true experience. Things are changing.

Since: Jun 08

Location hidden

#324099 Apr 25, 2014
4life wrote:
Elise, ummmm actually, a lot of people clai it's not living, the ones who do not, admit that it is living, but they just don't care to kill it.
Btw---I understand you prefer the term "fetus," instead of baby, & that's fine with me. Fetus is Latin for "offspring," and offspring is (drum rolllllll, please) baby.
I use proper biological terms when discussing (drum rollllll, please) biology, science, medicine because that's what pregnancy and abortion are. But, go ahead and insert your term wherever you see fit. Enjoy. And, as much as you wish to deny it, any educated person knows that a fetus is a living organism (unless it's not alive, that is) What you would love is if a fetus would be given the status of person and that's very unlikely to happen. Please, prove to me 5, only 5, educated people that claim that a living fetus isn't living. A living organism is alive. Period. It's simple, simple biology. If you seriously believe that you can sway people who have been involved in abortion and reproductive rights for decades with your current argument...well, come on, really? You're funny. You believe what you believe, please. I'll believe what I believe. Just keep your nose out of other women's private medical matters.

Since: Jun 08

Location hidden

#324100 Apr 25, 2014
SevenTee wrote:
<quoted text>
No reasonable person is against abortion for a Medical reason under the care of a Physician in a Licensed Medical Hospital.
Adoption is the answer for unwanted children. There are millions of people out there that would love to adopt the Child.
Abortion for Birth Control is nothing short of legalized murder. This baby the mother is choosing to murder is living inside of her body. It is not the mother's body it is the Child's body and deserves a chance at life.
Some day the laws will change because people will wake up to the truth about what is going on in the Abortion Mills of America. Planned Parenthood and other abortion mills make big huge $$$$ off the practice and they ain't about to give up the Cash without a fight. And the abortionists do not give a rats a$$ about the mother or her baby.
That's one opinion. Yay.

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