Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision

Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision

There are 309986 comments on the Newsday story from Jan 22, 2008, titled Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision. In it, Newsday reports that:

Thousands of abortion opponents marched from the National Mall to the Supreme Court on Tuesday in their annual remembrance of the court's Roe v. Wade decision.

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#323963 Apr 20, 2014
Bitner wrote:
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You must be bored. You're trolling again, lol.
Hey, Hey Bitner, that's not fair.

Topix is an addiction. I've been really trying here. It's rare that when anyone is dealing with an addiction, they beat it the first try. C'mon, give me credit for refraining, and at least trying, and YOU know I've been doing that. You should be giving me high fives for coming as far as I have been, AND supporting me for the small successes I'm making. Baby steps. I mean, not that I look often, but it takes a lot for me to just keep strolling by when I'm the centre of a person's comment. I mean, I have to change the core of who I am. So with your help, and others, I can beat this. Help me, help myself.
Ink

Bensalem, PA

#323964 Apr 20, 2014
Bitner wrote:
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Your claim was actually that the situation with Gosnell is precipitating a big change. Nothing you have given so far proves this.
Still, my point stands, the numbers are evenly split, and have been for decades. 3 percentage points of difference in a poll where the error margin IS a three percent differential, doesn't prove otherwise.
Opposition to abortion is NOT "on the rise", as proven by the consistnecy of the OTHER poll where the numbers remain steady, the question of RvW. Consistently, approximately two-thirds of the country (and even YOU must be bright enough to understand that INCLUDES some of the half of the country that calls itself "pro-life") think RvW should be upheld.
You're trying to crow about something that is not happening, and providing links to polls that don't prove YOUR statement, but my own that the numbers have not changed significantly in decades.
Have it your way but the truth is that 20 years ago more people considered themselves pro choice by a large margin and now more people consider themselves pro life just as the poll shows.

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#323965 Apr 20, 2014
you know I was sorta kidding about that last post, right?.... regardless,, I am trying. Baby steps.

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

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#323966 Apr 20, 2014
Ink wrote:
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Well it is relevant when it comes to voting and deciding what kind of country we want. A country that respects all humans or a country that condones killing the helpless unborn children.
No, that's just your mental illness talking.

The polls are clear. It doesn't matter what one personally calls oneself, or even how one feels about the choices as a whole. Nearly TWO-THIRDS of the country thinks RvW should be upheld. Period.

What the majority ACTUALLY thinks, and yes even the polls YOU posted show the same thing, is that abortion should be legal in some form, with less than 20% thinking it should be illegal entirely. And guess what? Unless you are one of those extremists who think it should be illegal even when a woman's life is in danger, then YOU are one of those majority of people who think abortion should be legal in some form. Just like the rest of us, you find it acceptable at some point. PC or not, we all have an opinion about that. PCers just know that our own personal opinion shouldn't apply to everyone by law.

If you're in the 20%, that makes you part of a fringe minority of nutcases, and no one needs to worry about that.

“Blessed Be”

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#323967 Apr 20, 2014
Ink wrote:
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Have it your way but the truth is that 20 years ago more people considered themselves pro choice by a large margin and now more people consider themselves pro life just as the poll shows.
Which has nothing to do with anything.

It has nothing to do with your original claim, and it has nothing to do with my response.

What is your point?

“Blessed Be”

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#323968 Apr 20, 2014
R C Honey wrote:
you know I was sorta kidding about that last post, right?.... regardless,, I am trying. Baby steps.
And grains of salt :)

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#323969 Apr 20, 2014
oh, I can see that Chicky's "troll be gone" spray worked again. And this time, it was NoahRS.

I don't think the "troll be gone" is permanent. It wears off after a bit.

ow, I just got something sprayed in my eye...
ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hhhhhhhhhhh (poof)

Since: Mar 14

Kent, WA

#323970 Apr 20, 2014
Ink wrote:
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I gave you the Gallop Poll as a source. I don't care if you choose to think that people's opinions aren't changing, no harm done.
Gov Ringe and his pro choice, look the other way policies are to blame for Gosnell's murderous run. You people are the ones who stand by and let butchers kill women and babies by waiving all regulations and rules. Gov Ringe shot everyone in the foot and all states will now require rules, restrictions, limitations and inspections for abortion clinics.
You cited and I referenced the article in the Washington Times written by someone working on the Family Research Council.
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People's opinions are not changing, not to the degree dishonest wishful thinkers masquerading as Christian Conservatives would like others to believe, anyway.
Ink wrote:
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You bet and it is time.
Minds are changing already. Be afraid, be very afraid.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/feb/...
http://www.topix.com/forum/news/abortion/T833...
Bitner wrote:
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The stats in that article didn't even prove your claims.
As I said, the country is still split. If people are changing their views, it's going both ways, whether you want to admit it or not.
http://www.topix.com/forum/news/abortion/T833...
KatieKatieKatie wrote:
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I agree, Bit. The article Ink cited was authored by a person who works for the Family Resarch Council - a Christian organization.
What I found interesting that finally answered my long-held question about what happened at the state level was the fact four people resigned from the Department of Health and 17 were fired. I'd always thought the major flaw belonged with the Department of Health's lack of follow through on those many complaints provided throughout the years.
And I tend to agree with NAP. The more restrictive some states make early termination, the more Gosnell-type clinics will open up underground.
Ink and those like her are basically just shooting themselves in the foot.
http://www.topix.com/forum/news/abortion/T833...

Since: Mar 14

Kent, WA

#323971 Apr 20, 2014
Ink wrote:
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Have it your way but the truth is that 20 years ago more people considered themselves pro choice by a large margin and now more people consider themselves pro life just as the poll shows.
To confirm Bitner once and for all, Ink will you now apologize?

"As Philadelphia abortion doctor Kermit Gosnell awaits the jury verdict in his capital murder trial, Gallup finds 26% of Americans saying abortion should be legal under any circumstances and 20% saying it should be illegal in all circumstances. The majority, 52%, opt for something in between, as has been the case in nearly every Gallup measure of this question since 1975."
http://www.gallup.com/poll/162374/americans-a...

Since: Mar 14

Kent, WA

#323972 Apr 20, 2014
Ink wrote:
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Well it is relevant when it comes to voting and deciding what kind of country we want. A country that respects all humans or a country that condones killing the helpless unborn children.
Since when does human embryo/fetus = "helpless unborn children" of pregnant women?

Do feline embryo/fetus = "helpless unborn children" of pregnant cats?

What about canine embryo/fetus? Do they = "helpless unborn children" of pregnant dogs?

Do cetacean embryo/fetus = "helpless unborn children" of pregnant dolphins?

How about those bovine embryo/fetus? Do they = "helpless unborn children" of pregnant cows?

If not, why not? Why is the human embryo/fetus so much better than all other mammalian embryo/fetuses?
Ink

Bensalem, PA

#323973 Apr 20, 2014
Bitner wrote:
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No, that's just your mental illness talking.
The polls are clear. It doesn't matter what one personally calls oneself, or even how one feels about the choices as a whole. Nearly TWO-THIRDS of the country thinks RvW should be upheld. Period.
What the majority ACTUALLY thinks, and yes even the polls YOU posted show the same thing, is that abortion should be legal in some form, with less than 20% thinking it should be illegal entirely. And guess what? Unless you are one of those extremists who think it should be illegal even when a woman's life is in danger, then YOU are one of those majority of people who think abortion should be legal in some form. Just like the rest of us, you find it acceptable at some point. PC or not, we all have an opinion about that. PCers just know that our own personal opinion shouldn't apply to everyone by law.
If you're in the 20%, that makes you part of a fringe minority of nutcases, and no one needs to worry about that.
We have been over this a million times. Abortion is legal and I imagine it always will be in one form or another although as the public's distaste for it increases we will see more restrictions and limits on when an abortion can be performed.

BTW 20% is a lot of people especially when you ad the folks who think it should be done only if the mother's life is at risk.

Folks have become more sophisticated and don't believe the 'blob of cells' line anymore. They know that is a lie put out by the pro abort faction. The one that makes it's living killing unborn babies.

“Truly Pro-Life”

Since: Nov 11

Proudly Pro-choice

#323974 Apr 20, 2014
Ink wrote:
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Well it is relevant when it comes to voting and deciding what kind of country we want. A country that respects all humans or a country that condones killing the helpless unborn children.
Oh please....all you can do is vote against politicians who support all the choices being available. And we can vote for them. Let's see what happens in the mid-terms, shall we?

Til then, I'll continue to deduce that you want a country where abortion is illegal, Kermit Gosnell's practice provides a blueprint for every abortion clinic, and back-alley butchers proliferate once more in America.

Next...
Ink

Bensalem, PA

#323975 Apr 20, 2014
KatieKatieKatie wrote:
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To confirm Bitner once and for all, Ink will you now apologize?
"As Philadelphia abortion doctor Kermit Gosnell awaits the jury verdict in his capital murder trial, Gallup finds 26% of Americans saying abortion should be legal under any circumstances and 20% saying it should be illegal in all circumstances. The majority, 52%, opt for something in between, as has been the case in nearly every Gallup measure of this question since 1975."
http://www.gallup.com/poll/162374/americans-a...
According to your poll, 52% thought abortion should be legal ONLY under certain circumstances. What do you suppose that means? Could it be if the mother's life is at risk or her child is not survivable? I as a pro life person would be in that group.
Ink

Bensalem, PA

#323976 Apr 20, 2014
not a playa1965 wrote:
<quoted text>Oh please....all you can do is vote against politicians who support all the choices being available. And we can vote for them. Let's see what happens in the mid-terms, shall we?
Til then, I'll continue to deduce that you want a country where abortion is illegal, Kermit Gosnell's practice provides a blueprint for every abortion clinic, and back-alley butchers proliferate once more in America.
Next...
They proliferate now. Legal abortion did nothing to stop him.
Ink

Bensalem, PA

#323977 Apr 20, 2014
KatieKatieKatie wrote:
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Since when does human embryo/fetus = "helpless unborn children" of pregnant women?
Do feline embryo/fetus = "helpless unborn children" of pregnant cats?
What about canine embryo/fetus? Do they = "helpless unborn children" of pregnant dogs?
Do cetacean embryo/fetus = "helpless unborn children" of pregnant dolphins?
How about those bovine embryo/fetus? Do they = "helpless unborn children" of pregnant cows?
If not, why not? Why is the human embryo/fetus so much better than all other mammalian embryo/fetuses?
I suppose they are.

I don't know how to explain the difference between man and other creatures to people who think they are the same. It boggles the mind.

“Blessed Be”

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#323978 Apr 20, 2014
Ink wrote:
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"We have been over this a million times. Abortion is legal and I imagine it always will be in one form or another although as the public's distaste for it increases we will see more restrictions and limits on when an abortion can be performed."

In case you hadn't noticed, those laws are failing. The only ones sticking, for now, are the ones regulating abortion clinics.

Still, that wasn't the point.

"BTW 20% is a lot of people especially when you ad the folks who think it should be done only if the mother's life is at risk."

One, I said less than 20%
Two, it's a small part of the population.
Three, you CAN'T ad the others, as they believe abortion should be legal at some point.

"Folks have become more sophisticated and don't believe the 'blob of cells' line anymore. They know that is a lie put out by the pro abort faction. The one that makes it's living killing unborn babies."

At some point, there IS nothing but a blob of cells.

There is no "unborn baby", just as there is no "born fetus".

Still, that's also not the point. Why do you keep ignoring the point? Even knowing exactly what is in the uterus, nearly TWO-THIRDS of the population (INCLUDING many of those who consider themselves "pro-life") think RvW should be upheld. Address that, if you dare.

“Troll Be Gone.”

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#323979 Apr 20, 2014
Ink wrote:
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FYI from healthkids.org
Most of the time, kids know their abusers and the abuse occurs in the home. This makes it difficult for kids to speak up. They may feel trapped by the affection they feel for their abusers or fearful of the power the abuser have over them so they stay silent. That's why it's especially important to be able to recognize the signs of child abuse.
Science is on the side of life.
Wtf are you babbling about? This is not a statistic and it does not say anythings about single women or their boyfriends being abusive.

Your lie is noted.

Science is on the side of science. Stop being a bully.

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

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#323981 Apr 20, 2014
Ink wrote:
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According to your poll, 52% thought abortion should be legal ONLY under certain circumstances. What do you suppose that means? Could it be if the mother's life is at risk or her child is not survivable? I as a pro life person would be in that group.
No one knows what it means to each of those people. YOU are the only one trying to speak for all.

If you are in that group, then you too are pro-choice.
Ink

Bensalem, PA

#323982 Apr 20, 2014
ChickBrilliance wrote:
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Wtf are you babbling about? This is not a statistic and it does not say anythings about single women or their boyfriends being abusive.
Your lie is noted.
Science is on the side of science. Stop being a bully.
No it is not a statistic. It is a statement. The same statement I made.

Science is on the side of science and so am I. You still believe that 'blob of cells' crap.
Ink

Bensalem, PA

#323983 Apr 20, 2014
Bitner wrote:
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No one knows what it means to each of those people. YOU are the only one trying to speak for all.
If you are in that group, then you too are pro-choice.
No I am not speaking for all, only asking a reasonable question.

No, I am pro life. In those circumstances there wouldn't be much of a choice.

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