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“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

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#316538 Nov 25, 2013
Ink wrote:
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Bitner says 'execute them'.
Where did I say that, Liar?
Ink

Levittown, PA

#316539 Nov 25, 2013
cpeter1313 wrote:
Yeah. Sometimes they become president.
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Yes an arrogant socialist who wants to fundamentally change the greatest country in the world. Or at least it was until he got his hands on it.

“Dan IS the Man”

Since: May 12

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#316540 Nov 25, 2013
AyakaNeo wrote:
<quoted text>LOL I love that commercial!
LMAO!

"She sounds hideous!"
katie

Seattle, WA

#316541 Nov 25, 2013
No Relativism wrote:
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Did you know Katie's preborn baby died in utero.
She named him "Aaron."
Katie V.: "I called mine Aaron. And still do." http://www.topix.com/forum/news/abortion/T833 ...
I know what you're thinking: One minute Katie Van der Sloot says calling preborn babies "useless wads of cells" is not disrepsectful to anyone...then she shares that she named her preborn baby son "Aaron."
She's a mess.
And so are you.
You would only think/believe this if you were completely unable to realize it was my fetus, my pregnancy, my business. Your fetus, your pregnancy, your business.

The only mess here is yours. Get busy and clean it up!
katie

Seattle, WA

#316542 Nov 25, 2013
Ink wrote:
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Hey there John,
I understand what fears they have about abortion being incrementally restricted.
This is a good example of states rights. I believe that different thinking people are in different states. I know that at one time I didn't like the high taxes and personal restrictions of the state I lived in and moved to the next state that suited my ideals better. I assume people still have that choice.
A few more restrictions and obligations would have kept Gosnell from doing business in PA.
Why? Would those not have been neglected as well by the Health Dept authorized to inspect and shut down Gosnel?

"Mandi Davis, a sanitation specialist in the environmental engineering section, told her colleague Ken Gruen and then-Assistant Health Commissioner Izzat Melhem about the complaint. Knowing the severity of the situation, Davis demanded a visit to the clinic be conducted. Current Philadelphia Health Commissioner Donald Schwarz told the grand jury notes on her memo said a visit took place, but that is the only evidence that supported the claim.

The city health department, however, could not produce any report of that site visit. Nor is there evidence that the department took any action against Gosnell for his dangerous handling of medical waste or for his failure to have an approved infectious waste plan, as is required by the city Health Code."
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/...
Ink

Levittown, PA

#316543 Nov 25, 2013
katie wrote:
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Why? Would those not have been neglected as well by the Health Dept authorized to inspect and shut down Gosnel?
"Mandi Davis, a sanitation specialist in the environmental engineering section, told her colleague Ken Gruen and then-Assistant Health Commissioner Izzat Melhem about the complaint. Knowing the severity of the situation, Davis demanded a visit to the clinic be conducted. Current Philadelphia Health Commissioner Donald Schwarz told the grand jury notes on her memo said a visit took place, but that is the only evidence that supported the claim.
The city health department, however, could not produce any report of that site visit. Nor is there evidence that the department took any action against Gosnell for his dangerous handling of medical waste or for his failure to have an approved infectious waste plan, as is required by the city Health Code."
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/...
His lack of affiliation with a hospital would have closed him down.
sassyjm

Lake Grove, NY

#316544 Nov 25, 2013
katie wrote:
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You would only think/believe this if you were completely unable to realize it was my fetus, my pregnancy, my business. Your fetus, your pregnancy, your business.
The only mess here is yours. Get busy and clean it up!
Katie,you degrade,dehumanize and show total disrespect for your child or anothers,while they are developing in the womb. You are here fighting for the right to kill them.Now BECAUSE it suited ou,you gave this "useles wad of cell" a name? Did it make you feel good or something? Yet,your other miscarried child,you didn't name? THAT one was a nothing because he/she was a few weeks behind in gestation age?

You are very confused.
sassyjm

Lake Grove, NY

#316545 Nov 25, 2013
Morgana 9 wrote:
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Let me tell you something...abortion would not fix YOUR problem because you do not carry the pregnancy nor do you carry any medical risk. YOU have nothing to worry about...nothing. Abortion fixes many problems for those who have medical issues, for those who have been raped, for those who are incapable of raising a child on their own, for those who will struggle through life with no support systems or help. WHO are YOU to say? YOU will never be in those POSITIONS. AND you really don't care about those who are in those positions. YOU feel that YOUR religious beliefs should trump all.
Killing your own child "fixes" life?

I find it pitiful that you have this need to act like women just have to kill their child instead of not sleeping with a man who will leave her with "no support system or raising a child on her own". What is wrong with you people that you can't prevent this NEED to kill your child?

Abortion is the anwer? Shouldn't a woman respect herself enough to not allow herself to be used as a sex toy? Shouldn't she learn self-control? Shouldn't she use her brain and abstain during her fertile time if she is an over-sexed woman who can't go a day without sex for the sake of not becoming pregnant?

FAR FETCHED hu?
katie

Seattle, WA

#316546 Nov 25, 2013
sassyjm wrote:
<quoted text> Katie,you degrade,dehumanize and show total disrespect for your child or anothers,while they are developing in the womb. You are here fighting for the right to kill them.Now BECAUSE it suited ou,you gave this "useles wad of cell" a name? Did it make you feel good or something? Yet,your other miscarried child,you didn't name? THAT one was a nothing because he/she was a few weeks behind in gestation age?
You are very confused.
I miss my daughter who would be 21 a week after Christmas. I missed seeing her graduate high school. I missed teaching her how to drive. She was going to have her first lesson the next day. We were going to have lasagna for dinner the night she died. She was going to clean her room. It was a 4-day weekend. Semester break. She was a sophomore in high school.

She almost died before being delivered. I almost died, too. Had we died, we never would have known each other. I never would have held her to my breast and nursed her. I never would have comforted her cries when she was too cold or too warm. I never would have heard her first word (it was not Mama), seen her take her first steps, or hear her giggle.

I did not have anything with my lost pregnancy other than lost dreams. He didn't survive, he didn't live. He wasn't as real to me as my youngest daughter is. She lived. She breathed. In and out. Over and over and over until the morning she stopped.

Don't you ever talk to me about dehumanizing anything you evil thing draped in a fake Christ. You think you're "honoring" a 30 plus year old fetus who never saw the light of day or felt the sun on his cheeks? You are disrespecting all lost pregnancies with your fakey fake concern for dead fetuses you'll never know about if you're not told about it. You wouldn't know humanity if it hit you right between the eyes. Especially when you continue trying to steal women's civil rights out from under them. Right out from your own daughters' feet!!

Your smugness won't save you if/when you have real issues to deal with in your life time.
sassyjm

Lake Grove, NY

#316547 Nov 25, 2013
John-K wrote:
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I can't help but agree wholeheartedly.
This is a strange sort of phenomena I've witnessed lately with some members of the PLM. They seem as though they're genuinely insulted by the fact that they're actually "winning" by fits-and-starts the whole argument regarding abortion. More and more people who identify themselves as Pro-Choice, are agreeing that there ought to be reasonable restrictions as to when, where, how, and even "why," abortions should be performed.
It would seem that public opinion--for the most part--is trending against "Late-Term-Abortions, " and yet we have our darling "Sassafrass," attempting to argue that if we dare to embrace such a notion, we're not "PC."
Talk about "sore-winners!"
Ah,my ears were ringing. I knew somebody was talking about me.

This "strange sort of phenomena" that your witnessing lately, is your imagination my sweet John-K. I have a question for you Mr "I am Pro-choice" regarding your above statement "MORE AND MORE PEOPLE WHO IDENTIFY THEMSELVES AS PRO-CHOICE,ARE AGREEING THAT THERE OUGHT TO BE REASONABLE RESTRICTIONS A TO WHEN,WHERE,HOW AND EVEN"WHY" ABORTIONS SHOULD BEPERFORMED"........

You claim to be PRO-CHOICE,but you want to give YOUR opinion as to when,why,how,etc...to anothers pregnancy where it is said that it is NONE of your business. So,it shouldn't be HER choice,HER BODY,HER PREGNANCY? Why do you people contradict yourself? Here's what you are,...you are PRO-YOUR CHOICE-ABORTION when YOU think she should and when YOU don't think she should,you become ANTI-HER CHOICE-ABORTION.

Allow me to sum this up for you. You talk out of both side of your mouth. ANYONE who thinks like you(your rules,not hers)is just as hypocritical.

See,John-K my dear frie&#326;d,you and I are pretty much on the same pge. We are both ANTI-CHOICE. The difference between us is that you support her choice(what a good guy you are)when YOU think it is okay(in the first trimester).
Have a great day!!!
Ink

Levittown, PA

#316548 Nov 25, 2013
katie wrote:
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I miss my daughter who would be 21 a week after Christmas. I missed seeing her graduate high school. I missed teaching her how to drive. She was going to have her first lesson the next day. We were going to have lasagna for dinner the night she died. She was going to clean her room. It was a 4-day weekend. Semester break. She was a sophomore in high school.
She almost died before being delivered. I almost died, too. Had we died, we never would have known each other. I never would have held her to my breast and nursed her. I never would have comforted her cries when she was too cold or too warm. I never would have heard her first word (it was not Mama), seen her take her first steps, or hear her giggle.
I did not have anything with my lost pregnancy other than lost dreams. He didn't survive, he didn't live. He wasn't as real to me as my youngest daughter is. She lived. She breathed. In and out. Over and over and over until the morning she stopped.
Don't you ever talk to me about dehumanizing anything you evil thing draped in a fake Christ. You think you're "honoring" a 30 plus year old fetus who never saw the light of day or felt the sun on his cheeks? You are disrespecting all lost pregnancies with your fakey fake concern for dead fetuses you'll never know about if you're not told about it. You wouldn't know humanity if it hit you right between the eyes. Especially when you continue trying to steal women's civil rights out from under them. Right out from your own daughters' feet!!
Your smugness won't save you if/when you have real issues to deal with in your life time.
Katie, your post is very honest and heartwrenching. I am sorry that you lost your daughter. The loss of your daughter was of course, more meaningful to you than the fetus, but that doesn't mean his life was unimportant. All babies born and unborn are important even if we don't get attached. It doesn't matter if their lives are long or short and if he had lived it would have been another close person to comfort you.

Most women could find a way to share their lives with one child that they created.
katie

Seattle, WA

#316549 Nov 25, 2013
Ink wrote:
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His lack of affiliation with a hospital would have closed him down.
Do you really think so? Here's what I think, only if it was enforced. Who would have enforced it? The same negligent health department?
sassyjm

Lake Grove, NY

#316550 Nov 25, 2013
katie wrote:
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I miss my daughter who would be 21 a week after Christmas. I missed seeing her graduate high school. I missed teaching her how to drive. She was going to have her first lesson the next day. We were going to have lasagna for dinner the night she died. She was going to clean her room. It was a 4-day weekend. Semester break. She was a sophomore in high school.
She almost died before being delivered. I almost died, too. Had we died, we never would have known each other. I never would have held her to my breast and nursed her. I never would have comforted her cries when she was too cold or too warm. I never would have heard her first word (it was not Mama), seen her take her first steps, or hear her giggle.
I did not have anything with my lost pregnancy other than lost dreams. He didn't survive, he didn't live. He wasn't as real to me as my youngest daughter is. She lived. She breathed. In and out. Over and over and over until the morning she stopped.
Don't you ever talk to me about dehumanizing anything you evil thing draped in a fake Christ. You think you're "honoring" a 30 plus year old fetus who never saw the light of day or felt the sun on his cheeks? You are disrespecting all lost pregnancies with your fakey fake concern for dead fetuses you'll never know about if you're not told about it. You wouldn't know humanity if it hit you right between the eyes. Especially when you continue trying to steal women's civil rights out from under them. Right out from your own daughters' feet!!
Your smugness won't save you if/when you have real issues to deal with in your life time.
Please don't tell ME about having real issues to deal with okay? You have no clue what I've been through. While my heart breaks for you after reading your post(the first part about your daughter),I can't help but to see something h&#281;re that confirms my point to you. You talk about "Aaron,your miscarried "son" and now your daughter(who passed after birth). You said that "SHE" almost died before being delivered and how if she did,YOU would have NEVER known each other,have held HER to your breast and nursed her,comforted her cries when SHE wa too hot or too warm,say HER firt word,seen HER take her first step or hear HER giggle. TWO children of yours,talked about while in the womb,as if they were REAL individual and not just some WAD OF USELESS CELLS. ONE survived and you got to experience those things. Yet,you lost her early in her life which deeply pains you not being able to experience the *rest of HER life*. The other two died while in utero,and only one got named. Aaron was your son somehow.

Interesting that you dehumanize those still young and in the womb during the journey of their lives. You are fighting me for the right to KILL them AND I AM THE "EVIL" ONE KATIE????????

My condolences on your losses. I am sure the grown adult daughters loss was the worst experience you faced. I can't even IMAGINE losing my child. I almost did and just reading your post choked me up. I know the response I will get so don't even bother responding.. I speak from my heart and your approval of it is not required.
Ink

Levittown, PA

#316551 Nov 25, 2013
katie wrote:
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Do you really think so? Here's what I think, only if it was enforced. Who would have enforced it? The same negligent health department?
If he was required to be either an obstetrician or a gynecologist, he wouldn't have been able to run his clinic. Also being required to be on staff at a hospital in case of emergency would have caused a problem for him. Possibly a sonogram would have prevented 40 week fetuses from being aborted alive and then killed to accomplish 'fetal demise'. BTW it wasn't a fetus but he called it that.
Ink

Kansas City, MO

#316552 Nov 25, 2013
copycat
katie

Seattle, WA

#316553 Nov 25, 2013
Ink wrote:
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Katie, your post is very honest and heartwrenching. I am sorry that you lost your daughter. The loss of your daughter was of course, more meaningful to you than the fetus, but that doesn't mean his life was unimportant. All babies born and unborn are important even if we don't get attached. It doesn't matter if their lives are long or short and if he had lived it would have been another close person to comfort you.
Most women could find a way to share their lives with one child that they created.
As far as I know, neither I nor anyone else has ever claimed the embryo/fetus isn't important.

What I do know is that others and I have been demonized by the likes of you, NR, and JM because we believe women, even when they're pregnant, deserve the same civil rights to personal privacy and bodily autonomy as men.

I have never claimed Aaron wasn't important. Had he survived, who knows what life would have been like? I played the 'what if' game for a while after losing that pregnancy. Maybe life would have gone a different direction altogether. Maybe my youngest would never have been born. Maybe my middle daughter would never have been born. Maybe it would've been just my oldest daughter and Aaron, girl and boy, done now, snip and tie those tubes please. Who knows?

What I do know is life's all about choices. Good and bad. We live with the consequences. Or we don't live at all. Then we become somebody's memory. But life is short whether it's a hundred days or a hundred years. Make the best of it. And don't leave this world with unfinished business. Don't leave it for those who mourn you to clean up after you.
Ink

Levittown, PA

#316554 Nov 25, 2013
katie wrote:
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As far as I know, neither I nor anyone else has ever claimed the embryo/fetus isn't important.
What I do know is that others and I have been demonized by the likes of you, NR, and JM because we believe women, even when they're pregnant, deserve the same civil rights to personal privacy and bodily autonomy as men.
I have never claimed Aaron wasn't important. Had he survived, who knows what life would have been like? I played the 'what if' game for a while after losing that pregnancy. Maybe life would have gone a different direction altogether. Maybe my youngest would never have been born. Maybe my middle daughter would never have been born. Maybe it would've been just my oldest daughter and Aaron, girl and boy, done now, snip and tie those tubes please. Who knows?
What I do know is life's all about choices. Good and bad. We live with the consequences. Or we don't live at all. Then we become somebody's memory. But life is short whether it's a hundred days or a hundred years. Make the best of it. And don't leave this world with unfinished business. Don't leave it for those who mourn you to clean up after you.
You have no hope of seeing your daughter again?

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#316555 Nov 25, 2013
Ink wrote:
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It is a mantra on here that women should have 'healthy sex lives' and shouldn't be forced to give birth to the resulting child.
How are you ladies going to have a 'healthy sex life' if all the guys keep it in their pants?
Just think Ink, if everybody kept it in their pants there would be 0 abortions and 0 births.@@

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#316556 Nov 25, 2013
Ink wrote:
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Bitner says 'execute them'.
I didn't see Bitner say "execute the innocent ones".

Since: Dec 09

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#316557 Nov 25, 2013
Long Night Moon 13 wrote:
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LMAO!
"She sounds hideous!"
Too funny!!!!!

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