Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision

Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision

There are 310473 comments on the Newsday story from Jan 22, 2008, titled Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision. In it, Newsday reports that:

Thousands of abortion opponents marched from the National Mall to the Supreme Court on Tuesday in their annual remembrance of the court's Roe v. Wade decision.

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Ocean56

AOL

#314867 Nov 6, 2013
sassyjm wrote:
You sound like a woman scorned. The consensus of pro-abortion women is that marriage and motherhood is a prison sentence where within the woman is victimized. I don't view marriage or motherhood like that.
So? Whether or not YOU see marriage and motherhood "like that" is irrelevant to me. If both marriage and motherhood are AGAINST a woman's will, meaning she was forced or heavily pressured by her family or religious community to both marry and have children when she really didn't WANT to do either, then both marriage AND motherhood is a prison sentence for that particular woman.

Under the so-called "traditional marriage" setup, the husband is basically the wife's BOSS, although I know conservative religionists are very careful to avoid that term. I see absolutely NOTHING good about that kind of marital arrangement, because to me, it WOULD be a prison sentence. So I make sure I avoid it. Any guy who wants to be a woman's BOSS in a marriage is definitely a guy to RUN from.
Ocean56

AOL

#314868 Nov 6, 2013
sassyjm wrote:
Again,women are not victims because you were made to feel inferior or unworthy in your life. Enjoy what you relate "CATHOLIC-FREE" or CF to being. ROCK on babe!
I find it ironic that you live a total contradiction. You discriminate against females in the woman. They are VICIMIZED by your group of anti-lifers to death.
Enjoy YOUR freedom. To hell with everybody else and their rights.
I DO enjoy my freedom from the toxic baggage of gods, religions and churches, which as far as I'M concerned, DO treat women as second-class citizens. That especially applies to the Catholic Church, although it certainly isn't restricted to Catholicism.

Because I am church-FREE, I have the freedom to make all my own sexual and reproductive decisions with NO interference from nosy male church clerics telling me I'm committing some kind of "sin" for making a decision the church disapproves of. I can decide for MYSELF to use reliable birth control to AVOID unwanted pregnancy. I can -- and did -- decide for MYSELF when and IF I wanted to get married. I can and did decide for MYSELF when and IF to become a mother. I decided for MYSELF how many children I wanted to have, as it was MY life, which is not for any church to rule over.

Oh, and YOU don't have the right to impose YOUR backward beliefs on me or anyone else. So your little "to hell with everyone else and their rights" whine doesn't work with me. Religions and churches don't have that right either, at least not in the United States, where a person is free to REJECT them with no civil or criminal penalties for doing so. It's wonderful how much freedom a woman has when she ISN'T mentally chained by a regressive and oppressive religious institution.
Ocean56

AOL

#314869 Nov 6, 2013
sassyjm wrote:
Oh boy! Listen,I am truly sorry that many women feel used and abused like you describe. But,I gotta say,today,women ADD to this. Let me explain. I hear women(you and some others on here..cough..cough...OCEAN56.. .)degrade the role of homemaker and motherhood as "if" it is a pathetic and unworthy position in life. If we care for others on the outside(jobs where we attend to,care for,nurse,service,etc..)then we are considered "employeed with honor". If we take on the job at our own home,with our own children and families,we are prisoners some how.
Yeah, sASSy, I DO think it's degrading for women to be told that marriage and motherhood, both of which are UNPAID of course, are the ONLY valid functions for a woman to have in life. That's a message which conservative religionists like yourself are constantly preaching. Obviously, YOU don't like my saying I find such a setup degrading. Too bleeping bad.

The whole "traditional marriage" arrangement that religions and churches are so fond of telling women is so "great" for them is, to me, nothing more than a giantic CON JOB. I don't buy that con job any more now than when I first heard it a couple of decades ago. Any guy who seriously believes he has the "right" to be a woman's BOSS as a husband is a guy to run as far AWAY from as possible. It WOULD be degrading for me to subject myself to such a toxic marital arrangement, which is why I make sure I avoid it. Hope that clears things up for you.
Ocean56

AOL

#314870 Nov 6, 2013
not a playa1965 wrote:
Honey, you EAT your loving god. And then you wash his body down with his blood.
My parents created me. I don't snack on them.
Next...
I've always found that whole "blood" thing from religionists like sASSy to be extremely grotesque, to put it mildly. It was another reason why I dumped gods, religions and churches, and it's great that I don't have to listen to long, tedious sermons about that nonsense now.
Ocean56

AOL

#314871 Nov 6, 2013
sassyjm wrote:
Well,you are very much incorrect when you thought that this..so called.."point" was not intended to degrade wives/mothers/homemakers. Ocean clearly called it enslavement and Leonie also put down being a wife and a mother,referring to it as being a slave. I've had many conversations with Ocean about this.
You've had "conversations" with me about this, really. lol Funny, but I recall those so-called "conversations" as being nothing more than tedious rants from you on one subject or another. But if you want to call them something else, knock yourself out. Even you are free to have your delusions.

I have to wonder why it bothers you so much what my particular views of marriage and motherhood may be when MY personal views don't affect YOUR life directly. If I consider the whole "traditional marriage/motherhood" thing to be enslavement and something I choose carefully to avoid, how does that affect YOUR ability to do whatever you choose? Why would it matter to you what Leonine, myself, or anyone else called it?

I consider the whole "traditional marriage" package, where the woman is treated like an unpaid servant, to be utterly degrading to women, and that's why I avoid it. I would never date, let alone marry, some religionist male imbecile who thinks he has the "right" to be a woman's BOSS, aka "head of the family." And yes, if I were dating, I would make it a point to ask a guy directly whether he's one of those "traditional marriage" guys. The second he said yes, I would DUMP him a minute later.

Got a problem with my saying all of this? Too bad, sASSy. Since it is MY life, I alone make the rules for it. If you choose to be offended by it, that's YOUR problem.
Ink

Levittown, PA

#314872 Nov 6, 2013
Long Night Moon 13 wrote:
<quoted text>
"Bring up anything you like as long as it is factual."
Whoa! I can't believe you wrote this, Ink
No that you actually write what 'the text says' in the context that it is said. Most of the time when non believers quote the Bible it is either inaccurate, out of context or not considerate of the times and culture.
Ink

Levittown, PA

#314873 Nov 6, 2013
Long Night Moon 13 wrote:
<quoted text>
"The flip side is people who say ignorant things..."
My remark went with this previous statement.
Are women who have never had kids just a waste of space in this world? Are they useless or something?
No those are the progressive feminists leading the call for independence from men and families. They have a mission. It is very important to them.
Ink

Levittown, PA

#314874 Nov 6, 2013
Morgana 9 wrote:
<quoted text>
You are confused. We are not degrading the role of homemaker and motherhood. The bible degrades it. The bible reduces it to subservience, submissiveness and the need to have a man rule over the wife as though she were a child. It gives it no value but that of a slave.
Who and what we really are is a matter of individuality, it is not up to you or anyone else to determine that for another. You are the one who sounds bitter towards women who choose to be individuals and life life to the fullest. In fact you are intimidated by women who step out of a role issued to them by male hierarchy religions.
The Bible had a point at the time in Hebrew history. There would be no Jews today if it wasn't for the strict marriage roles. They served a purpose. If you aren't Jewish then they don't pertain to you. So why worry?
Forum

Carlsbad, NM

#314875 Nov 6, 2013
Gtown71 wrote:
<quoted text>
Ok, I claim that I was an atheist, before I was saved,although yes, as a child I was taught about God and how He wanted us to be good. The day I round my father "hero" dead, when I was 9-10 years old I did stop believing in God, after all how could a loving God allow such a situation? Especially since I had tried to be a "good" boy for those few years of my life??
I had a Guy who slapped me EVERYDAY on the school bus, yet I never fought back, becouse I knew it wouldn't make Jesus happy.
After my dad died, the kid almost made it to my seat, before I beat the hell out of him, or as much as a 9-10 year old could.
I went from being a "good" kid, to on probation three times, and state probation twice by the time I was 14 years old.
I didn't care about life, and I know what "religion" can do to a person.
Yet, no matter what has happened to me in this life, or what I've done, to deny that God is real, "regardless of how I feel toward how He does things, or allows things to happen ",it would be lying to myself.
Anywho I'm just very glad you responded to me,and I mean that,with all sincerity!
To me, there are those on this thread, who spew out what they've been taught. No matter, if for / against abortion. For /against God.
Then there are a few, who are what I call "real" and truly want what is real.
Again - I'm probably anything "you" call me, but would like to just thank you :)
You should report the student that slapped you to the police
as an assault.
Children that are abused in school by anyone whether
it be by another child or an adult, should call the police.
The schools do not care and going to jail is where they belong.
Especially teachers. They get away with their abuse because
the children don't tell. They get sick.
It goes on their record.
God is justice. Righteousness.
Ink

Levittown, PA

#314876 Nov 6, 2013
Morgana 9 wrote:
<quoted text>
<quoted text>

<quoted text>

I asked you a question earlier since you were interpreting scripture for me. What purpose does this serve?:
1 Corinthians 11:5-15
New International Version (NIV)
5 But every woman who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonors her head—it is the same as having her head shaved. 6 For if a woman does not cover her head, she might as well have her hair cut off; but if it is a disgrace for a woman to have her hair cut off or her head shaved, then she should cover her head.
What purpoe does eating turkey on Thanksgiving serve? It is tradition and men taking their hats off in church and women covering their heads is tradition and culture.

Aside from that he says that women and men are not independent from each other. He says that man comes from God and woman from man and yet man comes from woman by birth. Read more than just the parts that irritate you.
Ink

Levittown, PA

#314877 Nov 6, 2013
feces for jesus wrote:
Dear, Inky. How often do you forget what you write? One day you say something; the next day you can't even remember what you wrote.
try to follow...
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Post 314806
<quoted text>
Post 314811
<quoted text>
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Here are your works, Inky - Post 314719
<quoted text>
"....it is pretty much a given by most respected scholars, that he did indeed walk on the earth and did what is written that he did."
Here is a link to your post since you likely can't be bothered to research it yourself:
http://www.topix.com/forum/nyc/T833PCEP80MM49...
Let us not pretend that "most respected scholars" support your biblical jesus.
Again the question posed was whether or not he existed and from my reading they agree that he did.
Ink

Levittown, PA

#314878 Nov 6, 2013
Ocean56 wrote:
<quoted text>
So? Whether or not YOU see marriage and motherhood "like that" is irrelevant to me. If both marriage and motherhood are AGAINST a woman's will, meaning she was forced or heavily pressured by her family or religious community to both marry and have children when she really didn't WANT to do either, then both marriage AND motherhood is a prison sentence for that particular woman.
Under the so-called "traditional marriage" setup, the husband is basically the wife's BOSS, although I know conservative religionists are very careful to avoid that term. I see absolutely NOTHING good about that kind of marital arrangement, because to me, it WOULD be a prison sentence. So I make sure I avoid it. Any guy who wants to be a woman's BOSS in a marriage is definitely a guy to RUN from.
Why do you women keep getting your selves in these messes that you can't handle? Bad marriages, unwanted pregnancies and angry and resentful at a world you see as run by men. Get over the anger and make your life better. Whatever it takes.

“Truly Pro-Life”

Since: Nov 11

Proudly Pro-choice

#314879 Nov 6, 2013
Ink wrote:
<quoted text>
Why do you women keep getting your selves in these messes that you can't handle? Bad marriages, unwanted pregnancies and angry and resentful at a world you see as run by men. Get over the anger and make your life better. Whatever it takes.
What if it takes an abortion?
Ink

Levittown, PA

#314880 Nov 6, 2013
not a playa1965 wrote:
<quoted text>What if it takes an abortion?
That isn't going to change the reasons they are so bitter.

“Truly Pro-Life”

Since: Nov 11

Proudly Pro-choice

#314881 Nov 6, 2013
Ink wrote:
<quoted text>
That isn't going to change the reasons they are so bitter.
Ink, you're every bit as 'bitter' that abortion is still legal, as I am that people like you are trying to take away my right to choose one.

Don't event try to lie.
Ink

Levittown, PA

#314882 Nov 6, 2013
not a playa1965 wrote:
<quoted text>Ink, you're every bit as 'bitter' that abortion is still legal, as I am that people like you are trying to take away my right to choose one.
Don't event try to lie.
I certainly am not bitter about anything. I had nothing to do with the legalization of abortion so therefore it has no bearing on me. It doesn't change my life in any way. People are going to be who they want to be and they have all options available to them. I'm sad about the fact that killing unborn babies is so important to women but not at all bitter.
feces for jesus

Westbury, NY

#314883 Nov 6, 2013
Ink wrote:
<quoted text>
Again the question posed was whether or not he existed and from my reading they agree that he did.
I called you out on this statement and you said you didn't say it.

"that he did indeed walk on the earth and did what is written that he did."

Like I said last night, let us not pretend that "most respected scholars" support your biblical jesus.

“Truly Pro-Life”

Since: Nov 11

Proudly Pro-choice

#314884 Nov 6, 2013
Ink wrote:
<quoted text>
I certainly am not bitter about anything. I had nothing to do with the legalization of abortion so therefore it has no bearing on me. It doesn't change my life in any way. People are going to be who they want to be and they have all options available to them. I'm sad about the fact that killing unborn babies is so important to women but not at all bitter.
Oh, well I guess that means I'm not 'bitter' either.

Just incredibly pissed off.

Simply out of curiosity, if abortion has no bearing on your life, why do you spend so much time railing against it?

Food for thought.
Ink

Levittown, PA

#314885 Nov 6, 2013
feces for jesus wrote:
<quoted text>
I called you out on this statement and you said you didn't say it.
"that he did indeed walk on the earth and did what is written that he did."
Like I said last night, let us not pretend that "most respected scholars" support your biblical jesus.
I guess you are trying to make a point. What is it? Do you have information that shows evidence that he didn't exist and that he is not responsible for the now Christian religion?
Ink

Levittown, PA

#314886 Nov 6, 2013
not a playa1965 wrote:
<quoted text>Oh, well I guess that means I'm not 'bitter' either.
Just incredibly pissed off.
Simply out of curiosity, if abortion has no bearing on your life, why do you spend so much time railing against it?
Food for thought.
I don't. I only give my opinion when asked. The same as a lot of subjects on here. Just like you do.

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