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Ink

Levittown, PA

#314796 Nov 5, 2013
Long Night Moon 13 wrote:
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This is the thing a lot of you don't get...I, and others, are not diminishing your beliefs but are reacting to the Christian contention that you have the truth or know for a fact that an unseen God exists. Believe what you want, but that doesn't mean the bible can't be discussed, debated or dissected.
If you are uncomfortable with people bringing up discrepancies and contradictions in the bible then maybe it's because you know the bible is in fact quite inconsistent and you simply don't wish to acknowledge that to yourself.
Bring up anything you like as long as it is factual.

There are some inconsistancies but you never take into account who said what and whom they were saying it. The speakers covered a long time and different peoples. What Isiah would say to the Jews would be very different than what Paul would say to the gentiles.

Also you expect the bible to be easily translated into English. Some English words weren't found in Aramaic, Hebrew, Greek or Latin which would also account for discrepencies.
Ink

Levittown, PA

#314797 Nov 5, 2013
Long Night Moon 13 wrote:
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I don't think the point is to degrade wives/mothers/homemakers, but to simply point out that we can do anything we want with our lives and are not just relegated to those roles.
The flip side is people who say ignorant things like how we belong in the kitchen or we should be home taking care of kids. We're people, just like men, and are not just put on this Earth to be breeding stock and glorified maids. I'm NOT saying that is what wives and mothers are, but that is not our sole purpose. Those aren't what we "should" be doing but like anything else is a choice.
You are saying that wives and mothers are breeding stock and glorified maids. What do you do in life that is more important than raising great children?

Since: Jun 08

Atrisco Village

#314798 Nov 5, 2013
Ink wrote:
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Do you think there really was a Cleopatra? If so why, because someone wrote about her?
Babygirl, you are this stupid, apparently. It's not Jesus' existence I need proper evidence of, but that he was the son of a god, and performed all the miracles, etc that you blithely claim as fact. If you are claiming that religious beliefs are based upon facts, rather than upon blind faith, you are even more a fool than we know you to already be.
Ink

Levittown, PA

#314799 Nov 5, 2013
sassyjm wrote:
<quoted text>I don't think that Paul was part of a Godly religion to begin with. He joined forces with some who where not "of God",therefore,displaying unGodly behavior. Was his belonging to this group intentionally meant to be anti-God/Christ? Who knows. Only God know,I suppose.
"BY THE FRUITS YOU WILL KNOW THEM"
When Paul had his conversion,he indeed followed him religiously(he became a Christian. He then belonged to Christs church here on earth. What he became intolerant about was unGodly religions where they didn't obey the teachings of God/Christ...hence,his making of so many enemies,..as well as followers :)
He was a religious Jew from a lineage of pharisees.
sassyjm

Lake Grove, NY

#314800 Nov 5, 2013
elise in burque wrote:
<quoted text>How did you manage to twist my post into some freaky mess to suit your bitchy sensibilities, crazy lady? Unicef doesn't try to propagandize girls to have or to not have abortions, doesn't show graphics to kids that parents obviously find inappropriate for their children. Your wonderful anti-choice champion here did. Even Ink said she's sick for doing so. Get yourself together, snippy. I clearly wrote that I feel it is inappropriate for either side to propagandize this way... either side, I wrote, hello! When Christian ministries, with their chikdren at their sides, asks for alms at my door, which they do, often (I live in fundie country, baby) I have no problem. However, they aren't passing out inapropriate graphics to children. Get it? If you don't understand the difference, that's your problem. Enough, now. The subject has been gone over and over, ad nauseum. You don't get to reinvent my post for your stupid argument. Move along, you nut.
I didn't twist your post at all. You came on here repeating what you heard about Pro-lifers.You had an agenda and it backfired on you. You not only don't have a problem with UNICEF using children to solicit monies for them for their pro-abortion agenda on Halloween,but you make excuses for it(even calling it "education")

So,yeah,you are a phony when you say that you *think*that it is inappropriate for either side. Your name calling doesn't help your cause either btw. Just sayin..

Have a great day!
Ink

Levittown, PA

#314801 Nov 5, 2013
elise in burque wrote:
<quoted text>Babygirl, you are this stupid, apparently. It's not Jesus' existence I need proper evidence of, but that he was the son of a god, and performed all the miracles, etc that you blithely claim as fact. If you are claiming that religious beliefs are based upon facts, rather than upon blind faith, you are even more a fool than we know you to already be.
No I claimed that he lived and was a real person in response to claims that he didn't exist.

What you believe about him is up to you. His followers and disciples have written about his ministry on earth and you can surely choose to not believe any of it but many people saw for themselves and did believe . That doesn't make them stupid.
sassyjm

Lake Grove, NY

#314802 Nov 5, 2013
elise in burque wrote:
<quoted text>Right, so, because someone wrote it, it must be true. Please. Christians rely on faith, not facts, to shore up their beliefs. To expect people to take the Bible as factual evidence of Jesus Christ's status as the son of a god, as a miracle worker, as a savior of mankind, shows you a fool. Without blind faith, religion cannot live. And I mean any religion, before you try to twist my words.
""""" Right,so,because someone wrote it,it must be true."""" ""

Is that your feeling on your history books as well? After all, "someone" wrote it as well.
Ink

Levittown, PA

#314803 Nov 5, 2013
sassyjm wrote:
<quoted text>""" ""Right,so,because someone wrote it,it must be true."""" ""
Is that your feeling on your history books as well? After all, "someone" wrote it as well.
That was the point I was trying to mnake to her but it went sailing by.

I would ask her what was fact and what was legend about her and if some of the legend isn't true, do we just say she never was?

Who was her mother? What was her ethnicity? Was Caesar really the father of her son. Did she really committ suicide? Many unanswered questions about the lady.
sassyjm

Lake Grove, NY

#314804 Nov 5, 2013
Ink wrote:
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The whole out look on life is sad and dreary. No joy, no hope and very dissatisfied.
Dredfully sad. Ya know,I have had my shares of tragedies and sorrows,but I can am blessed. My Mom and Dad always made it a point to be mindful of their blessings. My Mom used to go to bed every night and verbally speak her blessings which included her comfy bed and pillow. To this very day,I am mindful of that blessing amongst others. Even in my darkest hours,I realized that others have it worse,so it COULD be worse.

How can one support killing another human as choice,and be filled with joy,hope and satisfaction?. They simply can't. Their soul lives in darkness no matter how much they try desperately to say otherwise. They don't HAVE TO be in that place. It's their choice

:(
sassyjm

Lake Grove, NY

#314805 Nov 5, 2013
Ink wrote:
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You are saying that wives and mothers are breeding stock and glorified maids. What do you do in life that is more important than raising great children?
These women don't realize how they are their own worst enemies. They have no pride in their feminity. They rely on others,who have twisted versions,to set standards for them. Instead of being proud and secure,they choose to attack their very own(womanhood). Who are they punishing? themselves,their children? Who are they pleasing? Nobody.

I wish women would empower themselves by standing up for their feminity instead of degrading it. The proabort women feel empowered by killing or having the choice to kill their offsprings. How tragic.
feces for jesus

Westbury, NY

#314806 Nov 5, 2013
Ink wrote:
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No I claimed that he lived and was a real person in response to claims that he didn't exist.
What you believe about him is up to you. His followers and disciples have written about his ministry on earth and you can surely choose to not believe any of it but many people saw for themselves and did believe . That doesn't make them stupid.
You actually said something along the lines of everything. That was written about him is true. I don't remember the exact words; I'll have to find the quote later.
sassyjm

Lake Grove, NY

#314807 Nov 5, 2013
Ink wrote:
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No I claimed that he lived and was a real person in response to claims that he didn't exist.
What you believe about him is up to you. His followers and disciples have written about his ministry on earth and you can surely choose to not believe any of it but many people saw for themselves and did believe . That doesn't make them stupid.
There are many people who have experienced God/Christ in their lives and then turned around and rejected him. They don't reject the facts,just him. They are saying no to him. Lucifer knew who God was and he also rejected him. Even in the time of Jesus,there were those who ate with him,spend time with him,witnessed his miracles but rejected him.
feces for jesus

Westbury, NY

#314808 Nov 5, 2013
sassyjm wrote:
<quoted text>""" ""Right,so,because someone wrote it,it must be true."""" ""
Is that your feeling on your history books as well? After all, "someone" wrote it as well.
The bible is a book with no references or proof of authorship.... You know, Things that help support the information in said book.
Ink

Levittown, PA

#314809 Nov 5, 2013
sassyjm wrote:
<quoted text> These women don't realize how they are their own worst enemies. They have no pride in their feminity. They rely on others,who have twisted versions,to set standards for them. Instead of being proud and secure,they choose to attack their very own(womanhood). Who are they punishing? themselves,their children? Who are they pleasing? Nobody.
I wish women would empower themselves by standing up for their feminity instead of degrading it. The proabort women feel empowered by killing or having the choice to kill their offsprings. How tragic.
They must have had some bad experiences. I love having a husband that I love and who loves me. I also loved raising and watching my children grow into good kind people. I have done many other things in my life too and been successful but the kids and their children bring me the greatest joy. I think they are missing something.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#314810 Nov 5, 2013
Jesus`s existence is a historical convention. There's no proof of it but they aren`t going to bother arguing with zealots over it; they have better things to do, like chronicle the damage his followers have done over the pst two millennia--which is indisputable.
Ink wrote:
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True. The contention was that he is only a myth. Most experts say he was a real person.
Ink

Levittown, PA

#314811 Nov 5, 2013
feces for jesus wrote:
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You actually said something along the lines of everything. That was written about him is true. I don't remember the exact words; I'll have to find the quote later.
No I didn't. Sometimes you read into the posts things that aren't really there.

I do, however believe that he was probably quoted accurately because there is such a similarity. On message, you might say.

Since: Jun 08

Atrisco Village

#314812 Nov 5, 2013
sassyjm wrote:
<quoted text>I didn't twist your post at all. You came on here repeating what you heard about Pro-lifers.You had an agenda and it backfired on you. You not only don't have a problem with UNICEF using children to solicit monies for them for their pro-abortion agenda on Halloween,but you make excuses for it(even calling it "education")
So,yeah,you are a phony when you say that you *think*that it is inappropriate for either side. Your name calling doesn't help your cause either btw. Just sayin..
Have a great day!
I don't care whether you choose to accept the truth or not. See, my friend, because YOU are the one with a hidden agenda, are manipulative, simple-minded, and can't think for yourself, you believe that others must be just like you. Typical reactionary mindset. You don't get it, never will, because you choose to be cozily ignorant. I apologize for trying to treat you like an intelligent adult. Off you go, now, into your fundie cave.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#314813 Nov 5, 2013
So paul didn`t say it? Do you expect consistency from the insane?

BTW...who taught these women about christ? Paul never met him.
Ink wrote:
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Is that the one thing in the bible that you believe? Paul, famously had women preachers speak about Christ with him. They traveled with him and taught with him. Thecla is one who comes to mind but there were many.
Ink

Levittown, PA

#314814 Nov 5, 2013
feces for jesus wrote:
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The bible is a book with no references or proof of authorship.... You know, Things that help support the information in said book.
How many books or manuscripts from before the first century do?

We take all the Egyptians writings at face value even though we know that some pharoahs lied about their conquests but it is there in history inaccurately.
Ink

Levittown, PA

#314815 Nov 5, 2013
sassyjm wrote:
<quoted text>There are many people who have experienced God/Christ in their lives and then turned around and rejected him. They don't reject the facts,just him. They are saying no to him. Lucifer knew who God was and he also rejected him. Even in the time of Jesus,there were those who ate with him,spend time with him,witnessed his miracles but rejected him.
That's because they couldn't give their will over to him. They know better and have to be the boss. It isn't easy to say and mean 'Thy will be done'.

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