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#314694 Nov 3, 2013
sassyjm wrote:
<quoted text>
""""I've read the Bible from cover to cover 6 times"""
""""So far, darling, it has done more to convince me 'God' DOESN'T CARE, than that he does"""" "
You've clearly misunderstood his love story.
You need to pray to the Holy Spirit of God(who inspired the men who wrote it),to open up your heart and mind to be able to accept and comprehend it.
6 times huh and you still can't get it right, may as well throw it out.
Gtown71

United States

#314695 Nov 3, 2013
not a playa1965 wrote:
<quoted text>Sounds like a personal problem, Mr. Responsibility...you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =WvYUNeDYzwsXX
The man is very very good, at playing that guitar!

Are you in the video, or who is?

Not sure why you posted this, but again the guy has talent for sure!:)
Gtown71

United States

#314696 Nov 3, 2013
not a playa1965 wrote:
<quoted text>We're basically an ant farm, hon...and "God" is the irritated little kid who keeps us on his desk, until he gets bored, and decides to shake the glass...
It's "ironic" how you and many seem to have the same view, as I did BEFORE I was saved "born again".

I thought we were kinda like fish in God's aquarium, and the fish that swam the way He liked made it to Heaven, but those who did not, were flushed down the toilet.

Toilet filled with fire.

Perhaps a dumb example, and the ant example fits much better,but either way I now know I was wrong.

If God wanted to rake all of us into Hell, then He could / could've do / done so.

Instead He sent messengers to tell others about Him.

Many didn't care, and harmed or killled those messengers.

So He sent His Only Begotten SON, to do what "man" never could, which was live perfectly, and then take All of our Sins upon Him, and died for them.

Once and forever He took care of the problem between God and " man".

He then wrapped all of this into a free "for us " gift, which is offered to any and all who want it.

Many do not.
I did not.

Around 12 years ago I did want, and accept that Free gift.

I now know, that I will be in Heaven one day "already there ",as far as God's concerned.

I just want to tell others about this gift.
I cannot make them want it.

I cannot make them accept it.

They must choose for themselves.
Gtown71

United States

#314698 Nov 4, 2013
not a playa1965 wrote:
<quoted text>dammit
Ps - thanks for posting a link I could just click :)

“And the Horse You Rode in On”

Since: Sep 08

Minneapolis

#314699 Nov 4, 2013
sassyjm wrote:
<quoted text>
You've clearly misunderstood his love story.
You need to pray to the Holy Spirit of God(who inspired the men who wrote it),to open up your heart and mind to be able to accept and comprehend it.
I think we all understand this "love for men story" as written directly from the imaginations of men.

Genesis 3:16
Unto the woman He said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.

1 Corinthians 11:3
But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.

1 Corinthians 11:5-15
New International Version (NIV)
5 But every woman who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonors her head—it is the same as having her head shaved. 6 For if a woman does not cover her head, she might as well have her hair cut off; but if it is a disgrace for a woman to have her hair cut off or her head shaved, then she should cover her head.

7 A man ought not to cover his head,[a] since he is the image and glory of God; but woman is the glory of man. 8 For man did not come from woman, but woman from man; 9 neither was man created for woman, but woman for man. 10 It is for this reason that a woman ought to have authority over her own[b] head, because of the angels. 11 Nevertheless, in the Lord woman is not independent of man, nor is man independent of woman. 12 For as woman came from man, so also man is born of woman. But everything comes from God.

13 Judge for yourselves: Is it proper for a woman to pray to God with her head uncovered? 14 Does not the very nature of things teach you that if a man has long hair, it is a disgrace to him, 15 but that if a woman has long hair, it is her glory? For long hair is given to her as a covering.
Ephesians 5:22-24
Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and He is the Saviour of the body. Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.
Ocean56

AOL

#314700 Nov 4, 2013
Morgana 9 wrote:
I think we all understand this "love for men story" as written directly from the imaginations of men.
I certainly do, all too well; it's why I kicked the toxic baggage of gods, religions, and churches to the curb over 25 years ago. This kind of "love for men" translated into hatred for women, which militant religionists like sASSy routinely deny.

These days, I have seven good reasons to love being what I call Catholicism-Free (CF for short):

1. No constant and tedious preaching about "sin"

2. No long and boring church services and sermons to ruin my Sundays

3. No hassles about the weekly drag known as "confession."

4. Not having to pop out more kids than I wanted because of Catholicism's anti-contraception doctrines

5. Not having to give any of my money to the church's blood-sucking hierarchy by the church-based extortion practice known as "tithing."

6. No worries about my child being a victim of one of the Catholic Church's vile pedophile priests

7. Freedom to decide for MYSELF on all important personal matters like sex, marriage, and reproduction

Personally, I find it a gross obscenity that a group of male clerics in dresses has the arrogance to believe it has the "right" to rule over millions of women's lives. Luckily for me, I can -- and DID -- get rid of this toxic church's baggage so it wouldn't ruin the quality of MY life. I celebrate that decision every day.

For me, being Catholicism-Free (CF) ROCKS. It's wonderful how much freedom a woman has when she ISN'T mentally chained to a regressive and oppressive religious institution.
Gtown71

Dallas, TX

#314701 Nov 4, 2013
Morgana 9 wrote:
<quoted text>
I think we all understand this "love for men story" as written directly from the imaginations of men.
Genesis 3:16
Unto the woman He said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.
1 Corinthians 11:3
But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.
1 Corinthians 11:5-15
New International Version (NIV)
5 But every woman who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonors her head—it is the same as having her head shaved. 6 For if a woman does not cover her head, she might as well have her hair cut off; but if it is a disgrace for a woman to have her hair cut off or her head shaved, then she should cover her head.
7 A man ought not to cover his head,[a] since he is the image and glory of God; but woman is the glory of man. 8 For man did not come from woman, but woman from man; 9 neither was man created for woman, but woman for man. 10 It is for this reason that a woman ought to have authority over her own[b] head, because of the angels. 11 Nevertheless, in the Lord woman is not independent of man, nor is man independent of woman. 12 For as woman came from man, so also man is born of woman. But everything comes from God.
13 Judge for yourselves: Is it proper for a woman to pray to God with her head uncovered? 14 Does not the very nature of things teach you that if a man has long hair, it is a disgrace to him, 15 but that if a woman has long hair, it is her glory? For long hair is given to her as a covering.
Ephesians 5:22-24
Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and He is the Saviour of the body. Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.
Not sure why you didn't finish the rest of the last verse you've posted?

Many men in this world love the part about how a woman is suppose to submit to their husbands, but forget about the rest of what it says "sorta like you did ".

The part where it says men are to love their wives, as Christ loved the church and gave Himself up for it.

If men do what they are suppose to, and treat their wives the way they should, then the wives will have no problem submitting to them. The in fact will love to submit to a guy like that.

As far as childbirth and pain? Idk what to say, other than man didn't come up with that idea either.

Prostitutes used to shave their heads to let others "men" know who they are.
Women who love God, also should love prostitutes, and if a prostitute wanted to come hear about God, then they could cover their head, and they wouldn't stand out, since all other women were covered.

If you have a problem with the order of things, then idk what to tell you, since there must be some kind of order.

Just know God is real, and many many many WOMEN love Him, and His Word/words.
Gtown71

Dallas, TX

#314702 Nov 4, 2013
Ocean56 wrote:
<quoted text>
I certainly do, all too well; it's why I kicked the toxic baggage of gods, religions, and churches to the curb over 25 years ago. This kind of "love for men" translated into hatred for women, which militant religionists like sASSy routinely deny.
These days, I have seven good reasons to love being what I call Catholicism-Free (CF for short):
1. No constant and tedious preaching about "sin"
2. No long and boring church services and sermons to ruin my Sundays
3. No hassles about the weekly drag known as "confession."
4. Not having to pop out more kids than I wanted because of Catholicism's anti-contraception doctrines
5. Not having to give any of my money to the church's blood-sucking hierarchy by the church-based extortion practice known as "tithing."
6. No worries about my child being a victim of one of the Catholic Church's vile pedophile priests
7. Freedom to decide for MYSELF on all important personal matters like sex, marriage, and reproduction
Personally, I find it a gross obscenity that a group of male clerics in dresses has the arrogance to believe it has the "right" to rule over millions of women's lives. Luckily for me, I can -- and DID -- get rid of this toxic church's baggage so it wouldn't ruin the quality of MY life. I celebrate that decision every day.
For me, being Catholicism-Free (CF) ROCKS. It's wonderful how much freedom a woman has when she ISN'T mentally chained to a regressive and oppressive religious institution.
I'm glad you're Catholic free, and now if you would just get saved - you wouldn't find church a bore.

Again - before I was saved -your list fit my line of thinking perfectly.

A lost person has NO interest in the things of God. Period!
Many who are lost, that attend church week after week, becouse it makes mama happy, or hubby/wife happy, are some of the most miserable folks on earth.
Ocean56

AOL

#314703 Nov 4, 2013
Gtown71 wrote:
I'm glad you're Catholic free, and now if you would just get saved - you wouldn't find church a bore.
Not a bleeping chance. I kicked the toxic baggage of ALL gods, religions, and churches to the curb. I just got rid of Catholicism FIRST. I would find going to ANY church a bore, a nuisance, and a total waste of my time.

Personally, I think all regressive religions, including Catholicism AND Christianity, suck away all of a person's freedom, making it more like a prison sentence than anything else. Luckily for those of us in the U.S., people can REJECT that kind of prison with no criminal or civil penalties for doing so.

It's wonderful how much freedom a person has when she/he ISN'T mentally chained to a regressive and oppressive religious institution. So I have no intention of trading in the benefits and pleasures of secularist FREEDOM for the miseries of religionist slavery.

“Women are people, not objects.”

Since: Sep 09

Location hidden

#314706 Nov 4, 2013
Gtown71 wrote:
<quoted text>
If men do what they are suppose to, and treat their wives the way they should, then the wives will have no problem submitting to them. The in fact will love to submit to a guy like that.
Not a chance. Whether the master is kind or not, a slave is still a slave. A true marriage is based on partnership, mutual consent and mutual compromise, not submission. You Christians have a terrible, terrible notion of how marriage is supposed to work, and I see it time and time again in Christian households.

It's not a partnership when both parties work full time but only the woman does any of the housework, thereby coming home to more, constant work while her lazy husband and kids sit on their asses and do nothing to help. It's not a partnership when the woman of the house is treated worse than the family dog and can't sit down for five minutes to herself without her selfish husband and kids demanding her attention. It's not a partnership when the woman is trying to do something for herself like EAT and one of the kids needs something, but the man just sits there watching football, fully expecting her to take care of it because he's the man and she's the woman. This type of typical Christian mistreatment of wives and mothers is based on some outdated notion that it's "women's work" to do laundry, wash dishes and take care of the kids. These are the "Kodak moment" fathers that may as well just be sperm donors, for all the effort they put into raising their own kids. Aside from throwing their weight around to boss the kids and wife into submission every night, they contribute nothing to the upbringing.

Head of the household? No. Bully of the household, yes. And these women put up with this servitude, this belittling mistreatment, because of one line in that filthy bible you people feel the need to drag into every conversation or argument you have. These women are not happy; they are miserable...but they're too scared to get out of their situation because they have their religion telling them it's their duty.

Keep your chains far, far away from me. You can have them all. I will have a partner that treats me as an equal and an ally in all things, not one that thinks I should "submit" to him. I'm a person, not a piece of property, and only a fiend would attempt to convince anyone they're better off in servitude and would really like it with the right guy. People into BDSM use safe words and keep their roleplaying separate from their public lives; Christians do not.

"Come, be a slave...you'll love it!"

No. Your sales pitch stinks. Now stop trying to use your bible to tell us what to do with our bodies. Believe it or not, the world doesn't revolve around Christian dogma.
Gtown71

Dallas, TX

#314707 Nov 4, 2013
Ocean56 wrote:
<quoted text>
Not a bleeping chance. I kicked the toxic baggage of ALL gods, religions, and churches to the curb. I just got rid of Catholicism FIRST. I would find going to ANY church a bore, a nuisance, and a total waste of my time.
Personally, I think all regressive religions, including Catholicism AND Christianity, suck away all of a person's freedom, making it more like a prison sentence than anything else. Luckily for those of us in the U.S., people can REJECT that kind of prison with no criminal or civil penalties for doing so.
It's wonderful how much freedom a person has when she/he ISN'T mentally chained to a regressive and oppressive religious institution. So I have no intention of trading in the benefits and pleasures of secularist FREEDOM for the miseries of religionist slavery.
I have absolutely no doubt, that everything you've written here is true.

Like I said, to those who know not God, then anything remotely close to God is nothing that interest them.

I can only tell you, that I used to think the exact same way, but after being saved I realize that "He" not me changes a persons desires.

Anything now connected to God, is not something I must do, or feel obligated to do, but rather something I want to do.

Not to obtain, or keep good favor with God, but because of how thankful I am, that I have favor from God, through His only Begotten Son.

Either we are all here, becouse of happenstance, or a God created us.

Either we die an enemy of God, or we live with God, becouse we belong to Him.

Again, I'm glad you've thrown religion to the curb, since God's not so big on religion either.
Gtown71

Dallas, TX

#314708 Nov 4, 2013
Leonine wrote:
<quoted text>
Not a chance. Whether the master is kind or not, a slave is still a slave. A true marriage is based on partnership, mutual consent and mutual compromise, not submission. You Christians have a terrible, terrible notion of how marriage is supposed to work, and I see it time and time again in Christian households.
It's not a partnership when both parties work full time but only the woman does any of the housework, thereby coming home to more, constant work while her lazy husband and kids sit on their asses and do nothing to help. It's not a partnership when the woman of the house is treated worse than the family dog and can't sit down for five minutes to herself without her selfish husband and kids demanding her attention. It's not a partnership when the woman is trying to do something for herself like EAT and one of the kids needs something, but the man just sits there watching football, fully expecting her to take care of it because he's the man and she's the woman. This type of typical Christian mistreatment of wives and mothers is based on some outdated notion that it's "women's work" to do laundry, wash dishes and take care of the kids. These are the "Kodak moment" fathers that may as well just be sperm donors, for all the effort they put into raising their own kids. Aside from throwing their weight around to boss the kids and wife into submission every night, they contribute nothing to the upbringing.
Head of the household? No. Bully of the household, yes. And these women put up with this servitude, this belittling mistreatment, because of one line in that filthy bible you people feel the need to drag into every conversation or argument you have. These women are not happy; they are miserable...but they're too scared to get out of their situation because they have their religion telling them it's their duty./
Keep your chains far, far away from me. You can have them all. I will have a partner that treats me as an equal and an ally in all things, not one that thinks I should "submit" to him. I'm a person, not a piece of property, and only a fiend would attempt to convince anyone they're better off in servitude and would really like it with the right guy. People into BDSM use safe words and keep their roleplaying separate from their public lives; Christians do not.
"Come, be a slave...you'll love it!"
No. Your sales pitch stinks. Now stop trying to use your bible to tell us what to do with our bodies. Believe it or not, the world doesn't revolve around Christian dogma.
I agree with whay you've said, and sad but true, but once again this is Not a picture of a husband who loves his wife, as Christ loves the church. Those who do Never mention the word submit. They don't have to.

All men are selfish, self-centered, by nature, whether they claim to be Christian or not, but the closer in step a man is with His savior, the better that man will be period.

Can't blame you for not wanting part in the norm.
When God wants sooo much more for you here on earth, and a place in heaven when you die.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#314709 Nov 4, 2013
You said you were an atheist before converting. Atheists don`t think we are in god`s anything, because there is no god. Another lie.
Gtown71 wrote:
<quoted text>
It's "ironic" how you and many seem to have the same view, as I did BEFORE I was saved "born again".
I thought we were kinda like fish in God's aquarium, and the fish that swam the way He liked made it to Heaven, but those who did not, were flushed down the toilet.
Toilet filled with fire.
Perhaps a dumb example, and the ant example fits much better,but either way I now know I was wrong.
If God wanted to rake all of us into Hell, then He could / could've do / done so.
Instead He sent messengers to tell others about Him.
Many didn't care, and harmed or killled those messengers.
So He sent His Only Begotten SON, to do what "man" never could, which was live perfectly, and then take All of our Sins upon Him, and died for them.
Once and forever He took care of the problem between God and " man".
He then wrapped all of this into a free "for us " gift, which is offered to any and all who want it.
Many do not.
I did not.
Around 12 years ago I did want, and accept that Free gift.
I now know, that I will be in Heaven one day "already there ",as far as God's concerned.
I just want to tell others about this gift.
I cannot make them want it.
I cannot make them accept it.
They must choose for themselves.
feces for jesus

East Meadow, NY

#314710 Nov 4, 2013
Gtown71 wrote:
<quoted text>
Please give specific verses, that you are referring to.
Are you effing serious? And you claim to know the bible??? Pathetic.

Do you own legwork instead of asking everyone to do things for you.
feces for jesus

East Meadow, NY

#314711 Nov 4, 2013
grumpy wrote:
<quoted text>No. Your interpretation of your own empirical evidence.
It's been a week, grumpy. What were we discussing? Evidence for what?
feces for jesus

East Meadow, NY

#314712 Nov 4, 2013
Ink wrote:
<quoted text>
If that is what you take from the Bible instead of the important words and meanings, that is your choice.
I have a different outlook.
So bats are birds and man is made from dust?
grumpy

Garnerville, NY

#314713 Nov 4, 2013
feces for jesus wrote:
<quoted text>
It's been a week, grumpy. What were we discussing? Evidence for what?
That what you have seen resulted strictly by chance (The Big Bang).
feces for jesus

East Meadow, NY

#314714 Nov 4, 2013
grumpy wrote:
<quoted text>That what you have seen resulted strictly by chance (The Big Bang).
I made no such claim. Perhaps you saw Inky talking about such things.

Since: Jun 08

Atrisco Village

#314715 Nov 4, 2013
cpeter1313 wrote:
You said you were an atheist before converting. Atheists don`t think we are in god`s anything, because there is no god. Another lie.
<quoted text>
That guy obviously yearned for a god. He was never an atheist. Some people get confused, thinking that they must be atheists, just because they are spiritually lost. Very simple-minded thinking. Atheists have very defined, solid beliefs. This Gtown character doesn't get it, never got it, never will...because he is incapable of deep thought. He's the perfect little minion to his god.
grumpy

Garnerville, NY

#314716 Nov 4, 2013
feces for jesus wrote:
<quoted text>
I made no such claim. Perhaps you saw Inky talking about such things.
You were disputing Inky's explanations of nature so I assumed that you have an alternative explanation. The only other explanation that I know of is the Big Bang theory for which I thought explained nature as a chance occurrence. But if you have other explanations, defend them. Don't just disparage Inky's.

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