Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision

Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision

There are 317423 comments on the Newsday story from Jan 22, 2008, titled Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision. In it, Newsday reports that:

Thousands of abortion opponents marched from the National Mall to the Supreme Court on Tuesday in their annual remembrance of the court's Roe v. Wade decision.

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Ink

Havertown, PA

#314475 Oct 31, 2013
not a playa1965 wrote:
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Of course they do.
The trend of aborting babies in the face of strange males is known as the Bruce effect. That’s not a slight against men of that name; the effect is named after the scientist who discovered it – Hilda Margaret Bruce. In 1959, she noticed that pregnant mice will abort if they’re exposed to unfamiliar males. Since then, scientists have found the same effect among other laboratory rodents, and domestic horses. But the Bruce effect has always remained a quirk of captivity. No one really knew if wild animals do the same thing.
A new study found that geladas, a relative of the baboon, do have abortions in the wild:
Normally, the failure rate for gelada pregnancies is around 2 per cent. If a new male arrives, it shoots up to 80 per cent.… But why would a pregnant female abort her own foetus? Roberts thinks that it’s an adaptive tactic in the face of a new male’s murderous tendencies. Since the male would probably kill the newborn baby anyway, it’s less costly for the female to abort than to waste time and energy on bringing a doomed infant to term. Her future offspring, conceived more quickly and fathered by the incumbent king of the hill, will stand a better chance of survival.
Is Abortion Natural?
All signs point to yes; aborting a pregnancy is a natural response in female mammals.
Ludek Bartos from the Institute of Animal Science in the Czech Republic recently led a study that suggests that female horses have adopted abortion strategies and that they can choose to terminate a pregnancy if they are put in a position where the foals paternity may be uncertain. Published in the journal Behavioural Ecology and Sociobiology, this study has caused many anti-choicers to exclaim that the creators of this study are simply assuming the horses intentions. They argue that the phenomena should be referred to as “miscarriage” instead of “abortion.” Some have even proclaimed that it’s impossible for animals to choose to terminate pregnancies, because they don’t have the medical technology to perform surgical abortions.
What these critics fail to acknowledge is that abortion does not have to be performed surgically. In animals, hippos, armadillos and rabbits have all been known to suddenly miscarry when their environmental conditions are unfavorable, or because they are such that giving birth would potentially kill them. The reason that scientists choose to call this a self-induced abortion instead of a miscarriage is because the pregnancies are typically lost before the mother animal begins to feel negative effects from the strain of carrying a pregnancy in a hostile environment.
BAM.
Stress can cause miscarriages in both man and animals. Intentional abortion would take mind reading skills. Fertility rates are very low in captive animals. If you think about this rationally, how would you ever know what an animal is thinking?
Ink

Havertown, PA

#314476 Oct 31, 2013
buckwheat wrote:
<quoted text>A lot of animals eat their own babies as soon as they are born. Deny that. Well, you probably will, but it's still true.
Some do. What is your point?
Ink

Havertown, PA

#314477 Oct 31, 2013
not a playa1965 wrote:
<quoted text>And I said we suck at it. We're HORRIBLE stewards.
Dumping billions of gallons of radioactive waste into the ocean doesn't make us geniuses, either.
It makes us the only species to have an ability to choose to be good stewards or to be greedy and care less about the earth.
Ink

Havertown, PA

#314478 Oct 31, 2013
Kathwynn wrote:
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Poor you.. You really do not get it that when you literally believe. It is an abuse and a deplorable use of faith.
I can only hope that one day you realize that Faith is stronger when you are more willing to see any collection of books as a metaphor. Not as some literal truth. That you still interpret when ever it suits your agenda. though i find in general that those who take their own books of faith to be the literal word of their god. Turn out to be hypocrites. Like you.
I do understand that emphatically disagree. I do understand that you believe that your "literal truth" is the only way you want to look at the world. I get it that the idea gives a sense of permanence in a world that has none. The reality is that you make yourself in to a hypocrite even as you defend your cherished belief.

Worse ink it puts you into an indefensible position. One that further boxes you in to a theological corner. Causes you then still need to interpret something in your collection of books.
And that Ink is why tragedies like this little girl happens. Why the terrorists in the middle east murder and kill themselves. Why Ink people do fire bomb clinics, murder doctors in a christian church, and in general terrorize clinic workers and their patients.
Ink that is not an opinion. It is a fact that we all can see on any day. Believing in your collection of books as a literal truth is an abuse of Faith.
Boy are you way off.
Ink

Havertown, PA

#314479 Oct 31, 2013
Kathwynn wrote:
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Your gospel were written 35 to 50 years after the fact. What you have is copies of copies.. there is no telling what the original might have said. There is no telling just what was dropped or added with out the originals. It is a ridiculous idea to have a literal belief in a collection if books when all you are working is copy of copies. With no reference as to what the originals really looked like.
So you are right the whole thing hearsay with out a doubt. Makes less sense to literally believe in any of it.. Just saying..
At least one gospel was written by men who knew Jesus.

All of the gospels, those in the canon and those that aren't tell the same story about Jesus. Granted they are written by men with different biases and views and even at that, they are remarkably similar. Enough so that most historians admit that they was a man who in the first century who had an amazing effect on the world and still does.

Stories told by your mother about her grandfather are hearsay but probably true.
Ink

Havertown, PA

#314480 Oct 31, 2013
Long Night Moon 13 wrote:
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Some are said to have been written as much as 300 years after the alleged events took place.
Said by who?
Ink

Havertown, PA

#314481 Oct 31, 2013
Gtown71 wrote:
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It's very impressive how you stand day after day all by yourself, against sooo many who oppose you.
Be not weary
In due time, in due time :)
It's easy but they can sure come up with some absurd ideas and all to somehow support abortion. Boy if they can find any obscure study or opinion that suits their needs it becomes their gospel and they never question the validity.
feces for jesus

Brooklyn, NY

#314482 Oct 31, 2013
Ink wrote:
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At least one gospel was written by men who knew Jesus.
Who were they and how can you prove that they knew Jesus? Back up the claim with some objective evidence.
feces for jesus

Brooklyn, NY

#314483 Oct 31, 2013
Ink wrote:
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It's easy but they can sure come up with some absurd ideas and all to somehow support abortion. Boy if they can find any obscure study or opinion that suits their needs it becomes their gospel and they never question the validity.
A women can choose and doesn't need to refer to anything to answer to militant, fake prolife garbage.

Obscure study??? Question the validity? And yet you're here taking about people who "knew" jesus.

Apply that to your "beliefs" and

“lightly burnt,but still smokin”

Since: Dec 06

in the corner of your mind,

#314484 Oct 31, 2013
"Ink"

that suits their needs it becomes their gospel and they never question the validity.

sounds just like fundies and that big book of fiction
Ink

Havertown, PA

#314485 Oct 31, 2013
cpeter1313 wrote:
Then solomon was a f**king moron, there are few more absolute authorities than a queen ant. Every activity stems from her.
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The queen ant does not give instructions to the workers and there is no forman guiding there moves. They all just do what they have tot do to survive.
Ink

Havertown, PA

#314486 Oct 31, 2013
godless by choice wrote:
"Ink"
that suits their needs it becomes their gospel and they never question the validity.
sounds just like fundies and that big book of fiction
Yes it does for some and it works for the other side as well especially when you see some off the wall opinion that they embrace without question.

It is important to read all of the history that you can find about a subject that interests you. I try to do that.
Ink

Havertown, PA

#314487 Oct 31, 2013
feces for jesus wrote:
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A women can choose and doesn't need to refer to anything to answer to militant, fake prolife garbage.
Obscure study??? Question the validity? And yet you're here taking about people who "knew" jesus.
Apply that to your "beliefs" and
I have and your side should do the same.

Every year we have more findings that begin to corroborate the Bible and the gospels. In time the pieces may all come together.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/28/jesu...
buckwheat

Tulsa, OK

#314488 Oct 31, 2013
Ink wrote:
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Some do. What is your point?
You are certainly dense, aren't you? Get someone to go back and explain what lead up to that. I'm tired of having to school you. Google "reading comprehension" and learn it.
Ink

Havertown, PA

#314489 Oct 31, 2013
cpeter1313 wrote:
I`ll believe animal behaviorist research.
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Don't you question that they could read a lions mind?
Ink

Havertown, PA

#314490 Oct 31, 2013
feces for jesus wrote:
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Who were they and how can you prove that they knew Jesus? Back up the claim with some objective evidence.
Papias, bishop of Hierapolis,(c. 60-130) who wrote about this around the year 120:

"Mark, having become Peter's interpreter, wrote down accurately whatever he remembered of what was said or done by the Lord, however not in order."
Ink

Havertown, PA

#314491 Oct 31, 2013
feces for jesus wrote:
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You make many assumptions. Where have I said you were wrong? I only replied that you can research it yourself. Perhaps pose your questions to a qualified professional if you truly seek an answer or response. Just keep an open mind and put your beliefs aside when trying to learn.
Likewise.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#314492 Oct 31, 2013
Yes, she does. Pheremone signals keep the colony in regimentation. DO SOME GODDAMN RESEARCH.
Ink wrote:
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The queen ant does not give instructions to the workers and there is no forman guiding there moves. They all just do what they have tot do to survive.

“Proud to be a Wiccan Priest”

Since: Jul 09

Jonesboro AR

#314493 Oct 31, 2013
Ink wrote:
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Boy are you way off.
Actually reality says I am right.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#314494 Oct 31, 2013
Behavior isn`t random. It comes from the thought processes of the animal, which may or may not correspond to our form of thought.

Why do PLMers believe they can read the minds of women who abort?
Ink wrote:
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Don't you question that they could read a lions mind?

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