Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision

Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision

There are 318403 comments on the Newsday story from Jan 22, 2008, titled Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision. In it, Newsday reports that:

Thousands of abortion opponents marched from the National Mall to the Supreme Court on Tuesday in their annual remembrance of the court's Roe v. Wade decision.

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Since: Dec 09

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#313472 Oct 16, 2013
The Abstruse Polymath wrote:
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"Spontaneous abortion" is a misnomer. Aborting anything requires conscious effort, therefore spontaneous abortion is an oxymoron.
natural miscarriage is an oxymoron.
Ink

Havertown, PA

#313473 Oct 16, 2013
Bitner wrote:
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Neither. Stop deflecting from your stupid statement that there aren't any children going hungry unless their mothers are trading their food stamps for drugs.
It was arrogant, and clueless.
You are clueless. There are programs all over the country, in every state to take care of and feed children.
Ink

Havertown, PA

#313474 Oct 16, 2013
cpeter1313 wrote:
Those ARE the adoptable fosters; there are a helluva lot more than 130000 kids in the system. In some states, a foster parent Cannot adopt their charges.
It`s sad that you cannot understand that many women simply choose not to be pregnant; you are so fetally focused you can barely see the born woman.
Have a baby if you want one, or adopt one. But no one has any obligation to provide you with one and you have no basis to demand one.
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You are thinking that the foster kids are in the system because their mothers were forced to give birth to children they didn't want? I think you would find that isn't the reason they are there.

It's not an abortion issue. It's a breakdown of family and drug issue usually.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#313475 Oct 16, 2013
Oh, please...you PLM zombies could form a greek chorus without rehearsing.
Ink wrote:
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You say it almost word for word. You all have the same creed.
Ink

Havertown, PA

#313476 Oct 16, 2013
feces for jesus wrote:
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Also, my opinion is own and i dont expect others to follow based on my opinion. Regardless of my opinion, abortion is legal and I am ok with that.
I am quoting that link, but i certainly dont catecfor their decision to label people as "anti choicers". How would you respond to this statement:
"Anti-choicers say that a fetus has an inherent "right to life." But many of them support exceptions to a ban on abortion in cases of rape, incest, or a threat to the woman's life, or even health. This clearly indicates that they believe the right to life of a fetus is negotiable, certainly not absolute or paramount. By compromising their "right to life" definition in order to accommodate a woman's rights, they inadvertently acknowledge that women's rights are more important than the "right to life" of fetuses."
I think she is right if anti choicers feel that way and make exceptions. I do feel that in the rare occasion of a mother who by carrying a baby will cause her death should have the right to choose her own life first.

Since: Dec 09

Location hidden

#313477 Oct 16, 2013
Ink wrote:
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You are clueless. There are programs all over the country, in every state to take care of and feed children.
And when those programs still don't provide or can't provide for every child or family, they have to depend on donations. If it were true that the programs in place actually kept every child fed with proper nutrition we wouldn't need voluntary food banks. Clueless.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#313478 Oct 16, 2013
Obviously, your diverse fields of study don`t include medicine, biology, or the english language. Polymath, my tuchus.
The Abstruse Polymath wrote:
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"Spontaneous abortion" is a misnomer. Aborting anything requires conscious effort, therefore spontaneous abortion is an oxymoron.
Ink

Havertown, PA

#313479 Oct 16, 2013
feces for jesus wrote:
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I would really need to read the site & think about it, but it certainly would not constitute it being "dogma".
I cant speak for others but I am open to honest, rational discussion and debate. I truly don't see others being open. Most here have their beliefs and that's that.
The website you gave appeared to doesn't mention anything about "killing", but you went to the extreme and decided to say that they support "killing".
My use of the words 'Killing the fetus' is extreme but actually killing the fetus isn't? Because they don't phrase it that way makes you think they aren't ending it's life?

Just look at the pictures of all the dead fetuses at Gosnell's. Somebody killed them.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#313480 Oct 16, 2013
A human being? That`s a philosophical concept; not everyone believes a fetus qualifies as an equal to a born human.

It doesn`t matter, since no human being has the right to force another to sustain their life UNLESS that other person accepts the responsibility. Biological happenstance does not create obligation.
Ink wrote:
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Are you the only one on this thread who doesn't believe that the fetus being carried by a human mother is a human being?

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#313481 Oct 16, 2013
Google "starvation in america"; I can`t cut and paste on this device. It`s a genuine problem exacerbated by budget cuts and unemployment.
Ink wrote:
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If you know of children that don't have enough food, for God's sake report it and have social services get them what they need.

“Earth's #1 Brain.”

Since: Oct 13

Norvelt

#313482 Oct 16, 2013
cpeter1313 wrote:
Obviously, your diverse fields of study don`t include medicine, biology, or the english language. Polymath, my tuchus.
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I'd say the exact same thing if I were ignorant as you. Even a near universal usage of a word incorrectly does not make it correct.
No doubt your touchus understands better than the rest of you.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#313483 Oct 16, 2013
Just another internet popinjay threaten8ng violence he could never attempt. Sad little coward; your obsession with me is totally unrequited.
King Edward II wrote:
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This time there will be no bed. Just a red hot poker and you'll be screaming for god.
feces for jesus

Brooklyn, NY

#313484 Oct 16, 2013
Ink wrote:
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You are clueless. There are programs all over the country, in every state to take care of and feed children.
And yet 1 out of every 5 children in the US go to bed hungry.
feces for jesus

Brooklyn, NY

#313485 Oct 16, 2013
Ink wrote:
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I think she is right if anti choicers feel that way and make exceptions. I do feel that in the rare occasion of a mother who by carrying a baby will cause her death should have the right to choose her own life first.
Thank you for your honest reply. how does your position relate to what the website said,specifically that:

"By compromising the "right to life" definition in order to accommodate a woman's rights, they inadvertently acknowledge that women's rights are more important than the "right to life" of fetuses."

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#313486 Oct 16, 2013
I didn`t bring up foster care (which is separate from adoption) at all. Adoption has nothing to do with abortion; they are mutually exclusive. I was commenti
ng on the claim you made.

BTW--many kids are in foster care because the parent gets sick or is judged to be incompetent to raise a child, neither are choice issues. Babies are put up for adoption because women are often raised to ignore abortion as a choice AND because they believe adoption is a guaranteed process, which it isn`t.
Ink wrote:
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You are thinking that the foster kids are in the system because their mothers were forced to give birth to children they didn't want? I think you would find that isn't the reason they are there.
It's not an abortion issue. It's a breakdown of family and drug issue usually.
feces for jesus

Brooklyn, NY

#313487 Oct 16, 2013
Ink wrote:
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My use of the words 'Killing the fetus' is extreme but actually killing the fetus isn't? Because they don't phrase it that way makes you think they aren't ending it's life?
Just look at the pictures of all the dead fetuses at Gosnell's. Somebody killed them.
The link you gave mentions nothing about the killing of fetuses. It discusses various viewpoints and you revered to that as "pro abort dogma" that you seem to claim I and others follow.

You are talking about killing; that link was not discussing the act of abortion at all, but you set out to twist the content of the link you provided.
Ink

Havertown, PA

#313488 Oct 16, 2013
cpeter1313 wrote:
Google "starvation in america"; I can`t cut and paste on this device. It`s a genuine problem exacerbated by budget cuts and unemployment.
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Yes many people are living below the poverty level due to the things you mentioned but no child should starve. There are resources. This country spends almost one hundred billion dollars a year on food assistance, not to mention the money raised by charities.

Joel Berg, a food policy analyst at the Center for American Progress, say this on MSNBC:

I say the reason [the United States is] not Somalia or Haiti or North Korea is the [food stamp] program's working... The reason we don't have mass starvation is this program is helping tens of millions of American families survive.
Ink

Havertown, PA

#313489 Oct 16, 2013
feces for jesus wrote:
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The link you gave mentions nothing about the killing of fetuses. It discusses various viewpoints and you revered to that as "pro abort dogma" that you seem to claim I and others follow.
You are talking about killing; that link was not discussing the act of abortion at all, but you set out to twist the content of the link you provided.
The link was about whether or not the fetus is a human being. The point of the link was that it didn't matter whether or not is was. Only the woman's right to abort it matters.

I didn't twist it I pasted it as written.
Ink

Havertown, PA

#313490 Oct 16, 2013
cpeter1313 wrote:
I didn`t bring up foster care (which is separate from adoption) at all. Adoption has nothing to do with abortion; they are mutually exclusive. I was commenti
ng on the claim you made.
BTW--many kids are in foster care because the parent gets sick or is judged to be incompetent to raise a child, neither are choice issues. Babies are put up for adoption because women are often raised to ignore abortion as a choice AND because they believe adoption is a guaranteed process, which it isn`t.
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Nothing is guaranteed except death.
Ink

Havertown, PA

#313491 Oct 16, 2013
feces for jesus wrote:
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Thank you for your honest reply. how does your position relate to what the website said,specifically that:
"By compromising the "right to life" definition in order to accommodate a woman's rights, they inadvertently acknowledge that women's rights are more important than the "right to life" of fetuses."
That was my honest answer I agree with her for the people she is talking about and I know there are some. I would bet that most people who are truly pro life wouldn't make those exceptions except to aknowledge that a woman has a right to save her own life at the expense of the baby's.

I know that there are tough unfair situations that people face and decisions are made in the moment and I pray for the women who decide to abort and regret it later. Not all women are happy that they aborted their babies and they grieve.

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