Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision

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Thousands of abortion opponents marched from the National Mall to the Supreme Court on Tuesday in their annual remembrance of the court's Roe v. Wade decision. Read more
Ink

Levittown, PA

#313266 Oct 15, 2013
not a playa1965 wrote:
<quoted text>What I became, is a mother to two beautiful sons. If that makes me a 'militant proabort' in your eyes, I'm fine with that.
Why do militant proaborts have such power over your life?
Maybe it's a guilt thing.
Next...
That isn't what makes you a mititant pro abort.
Ink

Levittown, PA

#313267 Oct 15, 2013
feces for jesus wrote:
<quoted text>
"pro abort" formula???
C'mon, ink; you're better than this.
Mantra
Doctrine
Dogma
Talking points
Pick the word you like.
Katie

Seattle, WA

#313268 Oct 15, 2013
Ink wrote:
<quoted text>
Is it a mental block to not be able to admit that a growing living fetus in no way compares to an acorn or a bowl of batter? Please tell me that you know the difference and that you only use these comparisims to make yourself feel better about your extreme position.
Let's try it my way. It's more accurate.

Is it a mental block not to be able to admit that the majority of unwanted, living embryos are the size of a Tic Tac when terminated? Please tell me you know the difference between an 8wk embryo, a 40wk fetus, and a newborn; that you only use these comparisons to make yourself feel better about your extreme position.
Ink

Levittown, PA

#313269 Oct 15, 2013
buckwheat wrote:
<quoted text>Although I am pro-choice I didn't say anything about abortion in that post. You should sharpen up your reading comp skills before you jump head first into a debate. I said "I" would not bring a child into this messed up world. And, if those people who intentionally bring kids into this world would stop long enough to imagine the future, I think they would be hesitant, too.
I'll address the babies being born to crack whores and party sluts later.
Now sit the fcuk down and shut up.
Do you believe that if people stop having children, that will fix the world or is it that the world is so joyless, that it isn't worth living?
Ink

Levittown, PA

#313270 Oct 15, 2013
Katie wrote:
<quoted text>
Let's try it my way. It's more accurate.
Is it a mental block not to be able to admit that the majority of unwanted, living embryos are the size of a Tic Tac when terminated? Please tell me you know the difference between an 8wk embryo, a 40wk fetus, and a newborn; that you only use these comparisons to make yourself feel better about your extreme position.
I do know the difference but I don't understand why the size of the human being should be grounds for it's destruction. It is the same human being. Most pro aborts support the killing of that baby at any gestational age.
Katie

Seattle, WA

#313271 Oct 15, 2013
Ink wrote:
<quoted text>
Is it a mental block to not be able to admit that a growing living fetus in no way compares to an acorn or a bowl of batter? Please tell me that you know the difference and that you only use these comparisims to make yourself feel better about your extreme position.
Btw, Ink? Not once did I compare a fetus to an acorn or a bowl of batter.

The comparisons were made between an embryo/fetus and newborn, a bowl of batter and cooling cake, and an engine to a fully loaded vehicle.

Stay on track will ya? Or can't ya?
Ink

Levittown, PA

#313272 Oct 15, 2013
feces for jesus wrote:
<quoted text>
I believe that person "promotes" letting the woman decide for themselves.
Decide what? Whether or not to kill her fetus, a separate human being. That means she supports the woman's choice to kill or not to kill.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#313273 Oct 15, 2013
Is it a mental block for YOU that it doesn`t matter if it`s a fetus or a tax accountant in there, the WOMAN owns that uterus and undertakes the risks of pregnancy.
Ink wrote:
<quoted text>
Is it a mental block to not be able to admit that a growing living fetus in no way compares to an acorn or a bowl of batter? Please tell me that you know the difference and that you only use these comparisims to make yourself feel better about your extreme position.
buckwheat

Tulsa, OK

#313274 Oct 15, 2013
Ink wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you believe that if people stop having children, that will fix the world or is it that the world is so joyless, that it isn't worth living?
I honestly believe the world is beyond fixing. Also, it's selfish to bring unwanted kids into it.

The world population in 2006 was 6.68 billion people. It took only 47 years to double. It's increasing now by 211,000 persons per day and rising.

The world population by 2039 could be 8.0 to 13 billion.
Can you imagine the crime rate when we run out of space?

BTW, gangs and criminals are bursting our prisons at the seams. There will be more of those, too.
No Relativism

United States

#313275 Oct 15, 2013
Bitner wrote:
<quoted text>
Whether or not one chooses to consider them synonymous, no human OR human being has the right to dictate what a woman CHOSES to do about her own uterus and pregnancy.
So, just like you, it's of No Relevance.
Bhitler: "Whether or not one chooses to consider them synonymous, no human OR human being has the right to dictate what a woman CHOSES to do about her own uterus and pregnancy."

You said "a human" is in the womb. If that human being (synonym for a human) is female, isn't mom dictating DEATH to another female?

You get all wee-weed up over a uterus. Meanwhile, I'm concerned over the LIFE of a baby female.

Feminist my ass..........
No Relativism

United States

#313276 Oct 15, 2013
Katie wrote:
<quoted text>
Good call! Can see it now; a page-a-day desk calendar. Where every new day shows another PLM falsity with something like the Far Side graphics. LOL
I have a page-a-day calendar of the dumb things Katie says.

"It's not offensive to anyone to call a fetus a useless wad of cells."

'A fetus is not a baby until 48 hours after born because the brain needs time to develop, see?'

'A fetus remains a fetus until after born AND umbilical cord is cut...'

Etc.

Dumbassery at it's finest.
Ink

Levittown, PA

#313278 Oct 15, 2013
cpeter1313 wrote:
Is it a mental block for YOU that it doesn`t matter if it`s a fetus or a tax accountant in there, the WOMAN owns that uterus and undertakes the risks of pregnancy.
<quoted text>
It does matter. It is a human being. Granted she does have the legal power of life and death over her baby.
No Relativism

United States

#313279 Oct 15, 2013
buckwheat wrote:
<quoted text>Although I am pro-choice I didn't say anything about abortion in that post. You should sharpen up your reading comp skills before you jump head first into a debate. I said "I" would not bring a child into this messed up world. And, if those people who intentionally bring kids into this world would stop long enough to imagine the future, I think they would be hesitant, too.
I'll address the babies being born to crack whores and party sluts later.
Now sit the fcuk down and shut up.
Only a proabort like you would be anti-child.

You hate children because you killed your own. Overcompensating and shooting at the wrong target is unbecoming on you.

Get your shit together. And, leave the babies alone.

Thanks.
No Relativism

United States

#313280 Oct 15, 2013
buckwheat wrote:
<quoted text>I honestly believe the world is beyond fixing. Also, it's selfish to bring unwanted kids into it.
The world population in 2006 was 6.68 billion people. It took only 47 years to double. It's increasing now by 211,000 persons per day and rising.
The world population by 2039 could be 8.0 to 13 billion.
Can you imagine the crime rate when we run out of space?
BTW, gangs and criminals are bursting our prisons at the seams. There will be more of those, too.
What value do you bring to the world?

That's what I thought.

Start there.

And.

Leave the babies alone.

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#313281 Oct 15, 2013
Ink wrote:
<quoted text>
It terminates a human being in utereo. You know that.
It terminates the pregnancy. That the fetus dies at some point during the process doesn't change the fact that an abortion terminates the PREGNANCY, whether spontaneously or induced, by the removal of the products of conception.

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#313282 Oct 15, 2013
Ink wrote:
<quoted text>
The pro abort formula well stated.
A woman's rights are more important than the life of her child.
Complete nonsense, all around. You're as bad a Drama Queen as No Relevance. And that's saying something.
Katie

Seattle, WA

#313283 Oct 15, 2013
Ink wrote:
<quoted text>
I do know the difference but I don't understand why the size of the human being should be grounds for it's destruction. It is the same human being. Most pro aborts support the killing of that baby at any gestational age.
The Tic Tac size of the embryo matters because it's factual compared to your emotional claims and comparisons that an embryo/fetus equals a neonate. Developing embryos and fetuses are not included in the species until live birth occurs. Until live birth, all you have is a pregnancy with potential of a live birth.

There is no human being in the womb. There is no son or daughter in the womb. There is potential, if all goes well. Haven't you learned from others' heartbreaks? You can want the baby until your heart bleeds rose petals, but if there is no live birth, there is no newborn. All there is, is a lost potential.

Call it cold, call it ugly, but stop dressing up your emotional extremism as reality and thinking it's any warmer or prettier.
Deborah

Minneapolis, MN

#313284 Oct 15, 2013
Ink wrote:
<quoted text>
Is it a mental block to not be able to admit that a growing living fetus in no way compares to an acorn or a bowl of batter? Please tell me that you know the difference and that you only use these comparisims to make yourself feel better about your extreme position.
The acorn vs. oak analogy used in defense of the "perform or die" pro-choice view of acquired humanity obscures the truth. Why do pro-aborts compare a plant to a human being? A more fitting analogy would be to compare one mammal to another, like a human to a cat or a horse or a dog. Why not compare mammal to mammal? Because such a comparison -- in which the unborn progeny of these other mammals are developing, growing, and living members of the same species as their parents, just as are unborn humans of their parents -- obviously points out the illogic of the pro-abort position.

And, consistent with pro-aborts' view of the value of human beings, "Oak trees and acorns are not equally valuable," write Robert George and Patrick Lee, "because the basis for their value is not WHAT they are but precisely those accidental [not substantive] characteristics by which oak trees differ from acorns. We value the ugly, decaying oak tree less than the magnificent, still flourishing one; and we value the mature, magnificent oak more than the small, still growing one. But we would never say the same about human beings."

Only artifacts (clocks, cars, cell phones) come into existence part by part. Living beings come into existence all at once. Because one can only develop certain functions by nature (a result of basic, intrinsic capacities) because of the sort of being one *is*, a human being at every stage of her development is never a potential person; she is *always* a person with potential, even if that potential is never actualized due to premature death or the result of the presence or deformity of a physical state necessary to actualize that potential.

Human beings are valuable and worth protecting at all stages of their lives because of who they are, not because of what they can or cannot do.

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#313285 Oct 15, 2013
Ink wrote:
<quoted text>
You support a woman's right to choose whether her boy fetus or girl fetus is allowed to survive and continue developing into her son or daughter. You support her right to kill the growing separate individual human being in her womb.
I don't see how you can be so proud of that position. I know abortion is going on everyday at all stages of fetal development but I could never think that is a good thing.
Since that is not my position, I'm neither proud nor ashamed of it. YOU should be ashamed, lying about my position, but I doubt you are.

I am QUITE proud of supporting a citizen's civil rights, as anyone normal would be.
Katie

Seattle, WA

#313286 Oct 15, 2013
No Relativism wrote:
<quoted text>
I have a page-a-day calendar of the dumb things Katie says.
"It's not offensive to anyone to call a fetus a useless wad of cells."
'A fetus is not a baby until 48 hours after born because the brain needs time to develop, see?'
'A fetus remains a fetus until after born AND umbilical cord is cut...'
Etc.
Dumbassery at it's finest.
Yeah, passing off half-quotes out of context IS "dumbassery at it's [SIC] finest."

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