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#312572 Oct 4, 2013
not a playa1965 wrote:
<quoted text>"For people of faith, it is a child created in the image and likeness of God who He cares about."-Ink
If he 'cares' so much, why is abortion even a thing? Why does he do it himself, affecting one of every three pregnancies conceived??
"People of faith" have no business involving themselves in the decisions of others, simply because of their OWN faith. You're welcome to believe abortion is 'wrong', and to act accordingly ON YOUR OWN BEHALF. No one is stopping you from making the decision to gestate a pregnancy. But beating pregnant women who DON'T want to continue a pregnancy over the head, with YOUR faith, is wrong. And the evidence that your 'God' loves us, especially when our parents don't, is sadly lacking. Just ask any 'unadoptable' kid in the foster care system - there are hundreds of thousands to choose from.
We ARE 'satisfied' with our rights, but restricting, removing, and 'reassigning' them, is a genuine cause for protest, because those who would do any of the above are assuredly trying to 'make our lives harder'. You're so full of shit your eyes are brown.
The only person your beliefs should affect, IS YOU.
Well said.
feces for jesus

Westbury, NY

#312574 Oct 4, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
<quoted text>

the flood,stories were passed down if course ... but the facts,were inspired to be written ....by God......

Peace and,God bless
We understand what you may believe, rose.

Thing is, there are no "facts" relating to the noahs arc story told in the bible. It's just a fable with no evidence to support such a ridiculous story.
worships reality

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#312575 Oct 4, 2013
feces for jesus wrote:
<quoted text>
And you think you're not a funde!!!!!
Nope, not a single shred of evidence to link any flood to the Noahs arc fable in the links ink provided. Get back to us know when you can be honest
correction, i "know" i'm not a fundie. i only said she provided evidence of a major flood. which she did. i didn't say that evidence constituted proof of the biblical flood or that i even believed a biblical flood occurred.
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#312576 Oct 4, 2013
not a playa1965 wrote:
<quoted text>...known in scientific circles as...wait for it...yep:
a FETUS.
science and you can assign it any name you like. doesn't change the fact that science still "describes" it accurately, as.....wait for it....yep : a distinct human life.
Next...
yes, i'd like to chat with shovel next. can you summon her please?
you phony.
worships reality

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#312577 Oct 4, 2013
Morgana 9 wrote:
<quoted text>
The womb? What womb? Whose womb? To whom does the womb belong? Who has ownership?
Pick one.
A. Religion
B. Government
C. Men
D. A woman/girl
i choose 'd'.
now explain how this changes the fact that science describes the fetus as a distinct human life.
Ink

Levittown, PA

#312578 Oct 4, 2013
Katie wrote:
<quoted text>
"An ancient Babylonian flood myth, the Epic of Gilgamesh, tells us a story analogous to that of Noah and his ark. In it, a man named Utnapishtim builds a ship to save his family and animals from floods brought on his city by a wrathful god. After seven days, Utnapishtim and his family come to rest safely on a mountaintop.
Greek and Roman mythology tell the tale of angry gods who planned to flood the Earth and destroy humanity; the story's hero Deucalion and his wife take shelter in an ark and are spared. American Indian legends also tell of people taking shelter in a boat to be saved from a flood."
From your link, page one.
With all of that, why do you choose to believe it was only Noah's flood? Or only applied to Noah? Or that the others mentioned are not as real as Noah?
Thanks, though, for showing scientists are looking at ancient tsunamis and evidence left behind. Still, none of it confirms Noah's Flood happened.
Couldn't it have been the same flood reported by many different cultures?
Ink

Levittown, PA

#312579 Oct 4, 2013
Katie wrote:
<quoted text>
This does not answer why you or anyone would care about a stranger's pregnancy in another state or country. You can love anyone and everyone you want to, even from afar. You can claim it's because you love God. But once you start physically getting in someone else's space uninvited, effecting new laws that restrict others' civil rights, you've crossed the line of decency by displaying unacceptable, unwanted behavior.
So what's in it for you? Self-righteous ego stroking?
Yes self rightous ego stroking. Believe what you want.
worships reality

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#312580 Oct 4, 2013
Morgana 9 wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh PLEASE!
And a bird doesn't have feathers, a bear doesn't shit in the woods, the pope is not catholic and the earth is not round.
i view abortion as a human rights issue. my opposition to it is not based at all on religion. i favor the use of contraception. i support sex/contraception education, and i have no objection whatsoever to gay marriage. if i'm a fundie you better start a campaign to have the definition changed.

kills you that you can't pigeon hole everyone you disagree with and that you might actually have to argue the merits of your position rather than resort to personal attacks, doesn't it?
turns you into a stuttering, stammering mess.
Ink

Levittown, PA

#312581 Oct 4, 2013
Long Night Moon 13 wrote:
<quoted text>
How can you measure the "magnitude" of the Noah flood when you've already admitted the people of the time had no idea how large the Earth was? The flood could've covered a mere 10 mile radius but those people would've only perceived it as a massive flood because they didn't know any better. Those ancient people may have thought that a flood was covering their whole world while in reality most of the Earth remained unaffected. So what proof do you have of the "magnitude" of that one particular flood? And again, where is your proof is was the work of a god?
From go.com

This ark, located an hour south of Amsterdam, is a replica of Noah's Biblical boat. Underwater archaeologist Robert Ballard is in Turkey, looking for evidence that the Great Flood happened.
ABC News



The story of Noah's Ark and the Great Flood is one of the most famous from the Bible, and now an acclaimed underwater archaeologist thinks he has found proof that the biblical flood was actually based on real events.

In an interview with Christiane Amanpour for ABC News, Robert Ballard, one of the world's best-known underwater archaeologists, talked about his findings. His team is probing the depths of the Black Sea off the coast of Turkey in search of traces of an ancient civilization hidden underwater since the time of Noah.

See photos from her journey HERE

Ballard's track record for finding the impossible is well known. In 1985, using a robotic submersible equipped with remote-controlled cameras, Ballard and his crew hunted down the world's most famous shipwreck, the Titanic.

Now Ballard is using even more advanced robotic technology to travel farther back in time. He is on a marine archeological mission that might support the story of Noah. He said some 12,000 years ago, much of the world was covered in ice.

"Where I live in Connecticut was ice a mile above my house, all the way back to the North Pole, about 15 million kilometers, that's a big ice cube," he said. "But then it started to melt. We're talking about the floods of our living history."

The water from the melting glaciers began to rush toward the world's oceans, Ballard said, causing floods all around the world.

"The questions is, was there a mother of all floods," Ballard said.

According to a controversial theory proposed by two Columbia University scientists, there really was one in the Black Sea region. They believe that the now-salty Black Sea was once an isolated freshwater lake surrounded by farmland, until it was flooded by an enormous wall of water from the rising Mediterranean Sea. The force of the water was two hundred times that of Niagara Falls, sweeping away everything in its path.

Fascinated by the idea, Ballard and his team decided to investigate.

"We went in there to look for the flood," he said. "Not just a slow moving, advancing rise of sea level, but a really big flood that then stayed... The land that went under stayed under."

Four hundred feet below the surface, they unearthed an ancient shoreline, proof to Ballard that a catastrophic event did happen in the Black Sea. By carbon dating shells found along the shoreline, Ballard said he believes they have established a timeline for that catastrophic event, which he estimates happened around 5,000 BC. Some experts believe this was around the time when Noah's flood could have occurred.

"It probably was a bad day," Ballard said. "At some magic moment, it broke through and flooded this place violently, and a lot of real estate, 150,000 square kilometers of land, went under."

The theory goes on to suggest that the story of this traumatic event, seared into the collective memory of the survivors, was passed down from generation to generation and eventually inspired the biblical account of Noah.
Ink

Levittown, PA

#312582 Oct 4, 2013
Long Night Moon 13 wrote:
<quoted text>
How can you measure the "magnitude" of the Noah flood when you've already admitted the people of the time had no idea how large the Earth was? The flood could've covered a mere 10 mile radius but those people would've only perceived it as a massive flood because they didn't know any better. Those ancient people may have thought that a flood was covering their whole world while in reality most of the Earth remained unaffected. So what proof do you have of the "magnitude" of that one particular flood? And again, where is your proof is was the work of a god?
This ark, located an hour south of Amsterdam, is a replica of Noah's Biblical boat. Underwater archaeologist Robert Ballard is in Turkey, looking for evidence that the Great Flood happened.
ABC News



The story of Noah's Ark and the Great Flood is one of the most famous from the Bible, and now an acclaimed underwater archaeologist thinks he has found proof that the biblical flood was actually based on real events.

In an interview with Christiane Amanpour for ABC News, Robert Ballard, one of the world's best-known underwater archaeologists, talked about his findings. His team is probing the depths of the Black Sea off the coast of Turkey in search of traces of an ancient civilization hidden underwater since the time of Noah.

See photos from her journey HERE

Ballard's track record for finding the impossible is well known. In 1985, using a robotic submersible equipped with remote-controlled cameras, Ballard and his crew hunted down the world's most famous shipwreck, the Titanic.

Now Ballard is using even more advanced robotic technology to travel farther back in time. He is on a marine archeological mission that might support the story of Noah. He said some 12,000 years ago, much of the world was covered in ice.

"Where I live in Connecticut was ice a mile above my house, all the way back to the North Pole, about 15 million kilometers, that's a big ice cube," he said. "But then it started to melt. We're talking about the floods of our living history."

The water from the melting glaciers began to rush toward the world's oceans, Ballard said, causing floods all around the world.

"The questions is, was there a mother of all floods," Ballard said.

According to a controversial theory proposed by two Columbia University scientists, there really was one in the Black Sea region. They believe that the now-salty Black Sea was once an isolated freshwater lake surrounded by farmland, until it was flooded by an enormous wall of water from the rising Mediterranean Sea. The force of the water was two hundred times that of Niagara Falls, sweeping away everything in its path.

Fascinated by the idea, Ballard and his team decided to investigate.

"We went in there to look for the flood," he said. "Not just a slow moving, advancing rise of sea level, but a really big flood that then stayed... The land that went under stayed under."

Four hundred feet below the surface, they unearthed an ancient shoreline, proof to Ballard that a catastrophic event did happen in the Black Sea. By carbon dating shells found along the shoreline, Ballard said he believes they have established a timeline for that catastrophic event, which he estimates happened around 5,000 BC. Some experts believe this was around the time when Noah's flood could have occurred.

"It probably was a bad day," Ballard said. "At some magic moment, it broke through and flooded this place violently, and a lot of real estate, 150,000 square kilometers of land, went under."

The theory goes on to suggest that the story of this traumatic event, seared into the collective memory of the survivors, was passed down from generation to generation and eventually inspired the biblical account of Noah.
From ABC NEWS
Ink

Levittown, PA

#312583 Oct 4, 2013
Long Night Moon 13 wrote:
<quoted text>
How can you measure the "magnitude" of the Noah flood when you've already admitted the people of the time had no idea how large the Earth was? The flood could've covered a mere 10 mile radius but those people would've only perceived it as a massive flood because they didn't know any better. Those ancient people may have thought that a flood was covering their whole world while in reality most of the Earth remained unaffected. So what proof do you have of the "magnitude" of that one particular flood? And again, where is your proof is was the work of a god?
The latest investigations say it was probably 150,000 sq. kilometers and extremely fast rising.

http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/evidence-sug...
Ink

Levittown, PA

#312584 Oct 4, 2013
worships reality wrote:
<quoted text>
i view abortion as a human rights issue. my opposition to it is not based at all on religion. i favor the use of contraception. i support sex/contraception education, and i have no objection whatsoever to gay marriage. if i'm a fundie you better start a campaign to have the definition changed.
kills you that you can't pigeon hole everyone you disagree with and that you might actually have to argue the merits of your position rather than resort to personal attacks, doesn't it?
turns you into a stuttering, stammering mess.
She won't buy it that she has a warped view of people who oppose abortion.
Ink

Levittown, PA

#312585 Oct 4, 2013
cpeter1313 wrote:
Neither of which fit the noah story. I never said there weren't catastrophic floods; there were none that works with the myth.
<quoted text>
Why not?
worships reality

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#312586 Oct 4, 2013
Ink wrote:
<quoted text>
You don't know what a fundamentalist Christian is. You call everybody that.
calling everyone a fundie is their catch-all response. they use it in lieu of a real argument for their position. this misogynist obsessed loony tunes and that bigot moon are the worst offenders.
worships reality

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#312587 Oct 4, 2013
Katie wrote:
<quoted text>
I am not shocked *you* believe Ink's going off what you call "facts".[QUOTE]

yes you are. you said "wow".

and what do you know...not mention or apology about your lie that i agreed that gays do not face the possibility of death on someone's whim. that's par for the course for you.

[QUOTE]I completely disagree with both you and Ink. No need to converse further.
you "completely" disgree huh ? let's see we both believe that gays face the possibility of death on someone's whim so there can be no "complete" disagreement there.

i explained how fetuses in fact "do" face the possibility of death on someone's whim. now if you disagree explain why.
my guess is you'll take the cowardly "no need to converse further" approach. why? because you can't explain why.
Ink

Levittown, PA

#312588 Oct 4, 2013
Long Night Moon 13 wrote:
<quoted text>
The Bible is not the original document for any of it's content, and I think you know that, so where is the original written account that was transcribed into the OT? Where is the original document?
Maybe in Israel.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Hebrew_B...
Ink

Levittown, PA

#312589 Oct 4, 2013
worships reality wrote:
<quoted text>
calling everyone a fundie is their catch-all response. they use it in lieu of a real argument for their position. this misogynist obsessed loony tunes and that bigot moon are the worst offenders.
Yeah they wouldn't like it if we referred to them as Gosnells.
Ink

Levittown, PA

#312590 Oct 4, 2013
Long Night Moon 13 wrote:
<quoted text>
You mean like when early science proved all that heliocentric nonsense to be utter, well...nonsense? You mean like that?
No I mean like now. We have advanced. Maybe you haven't noticed.
worships reality

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#312591 Oct 4, 2013
Katie wrote:
<quoted text>
The "belief that abortion is an issue of human rights" is an erroneous belief. Whether Christians or Atheists hold on to it makes no difference.
of course it makes a difference. how is it possible for an atheist/secularist to oppose abortion based on religious beliefs when not only do they not hold any religious beliefs and deny the existence of any deity ?
Nor does it exclude the fact you *believe* you're not acting religiously in your beliefs. Or that religion holds no sway over your beliefs.
who the hell are you to tell me what my beliefs are based on ?
no offense lady but you are a whack job. i picture you as edith bunker....only not nearly as intelligent.
You can keep telling me and others it does not, but your own words belie that message.
really? which words ? and be specific. why must my belief that a fetus is a member of the human race be based on religion or god ? it is consistent with science. it is only "your" subjective/philosophical belief that this human individual is not a "person" or not a "human being".
Besides, what do you care what I think about you anyway? You're probably care for me as little as I care for you.
you stick your nose in and respond to a post not even directed at you...proceed to tell me that what i believe is not really what i believe and then when i dare to respond you have the nerve to ask why ?

you're a kook.

Ink

Levittown, PA

#312592 Oct 4, 2013
feces for jesus wrote:
<quoted text>
What "real" history are you seeking to validate?
I think what you would refer to as 'real history' with real scientists will eventually validate Biblical history.

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