Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision

There are 309866 comments on the Newsday story from Jan 22, 2008, titled Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision. In it, Newsday reports that:

Thousands of abortion opponents marched from the National Mall to the Supreme Court on Tuesday in their annual remembrance of the court's Roe v. Wade decision.

Join the discussion below, or Read more at Newsday.

Ink

Levittown, PA

#312582 Oct 4, 2013
Long Night Moon 13 wrote:
<quoted text>
How can you measure the "magnitude" of the Noah flood when you've already admitted the people of the time had no idea how large the Earth was? The flood could've covered a mere 10 mile radius but those people would've only perceived it as a massive flood because they didn't know any better. Those ancient people may have thought that a flood was covering their whole world while in reality most of the Earth remained unaffected. So what proof do you have of the "magnitude" of that one particular flood? And again, where is your proof is was the work of a god?
This ark, located an hour south of Amsterdam, is a replica of Noah's Biblical boat. Underwater archaeologist Robert Ballard is in Turkey, looking for evidence that the Great Flood happened.
ABC News



The story of Noah's Ark and the Great Flood is one of the most famous from the Bible, and now an acclaimed underwater archaeologist thinks he has found proof that the biblical flood was actually based on real events.

In an interview with Christiane Amanpour for ABC News, Robert Ballard, one of the world's best-known underwater archaeologists, talked about his findings. His team is probing the depths of the Black Sea off the coast of Turkey in search of traces of an ancient civilization hidden underwater since the time of Noah.

See photos from her journey HERE

Ballard's track record for finding the impossible is well known. In 1985, using a robotic submersible equipped with remote-controlled cameras, Ballard and his crew hunted down the world's most famous shipwreck, the Titanic.

Now Ballard is using even more advanced robotic technology to travel farther back in time. He is on a marine archeological mission that might support the story of Noah. He said some 12,000 years ago, much of the world was covered in ice.

"Where I live in Connecticut was ice a mile above my house, all the way back to the North Pole, about 15 million kilometers, that's a big ice cube," he said. "But then it started to melt. We're talking about the floods of our living history."

The water from the melting glaciers began to rush toward the world's oceans, Ballard said, causing floods all around the world.

"The questions is, was there a mother of all floods," Ballard said.

According to a controversial theory proposed by two Columbia University scientists, there really was one in the Black Sea region. They believe that the now-salty Black Sea was once an isolated freshwater lake surrounded by farmland, until it was flooded by an enormous wall of water from the rising Mediterranean Sea. The force of the water was two hundred times that of Niagara Falls, sweeping away everything in its path.

Fascinated by the idea, Ballard and his team decided to investigate.

"We went in there to look for the flood," he said. "Not just a slow moving, advancing rise of sea level, but a really big flood that then stayed... The land that went under stayed under."

Four hundred feet below the surface, they unearthed an ancient shoreline, proof to Ballard that a catastrophic event did happen in the Black Sea. By carbon dating shells found along the shoreline, Ballard said he believes they have established a timeline for that catastrophic event, which he estimates happened around 5,000 BC. Some experts believe this was around the time when Noah's flood could have occurred.

"It probably was a bad day," Ballard said. "At some magic moment, it broke through and flooded this place violently, and a lot of real estate, 150,000 square kilometers of land, went under."

The theory goes on to suggest that the story of this traumatic event, seared into the collective memory of the survivors, was passed down from generation to generation and eventually inspired the biblical account of Noah.
From ABC NEWS
Ink

Levittown, PA

#312583 Oct 4, 2013
Long Night Moon 13 wrote:
<quoted text>
How can you measure the "magnitude" of the Noah flood when you've already admitted the people of the time had no idea how large the Earth was? The flood could've covered a mere 10 mile radius but those people would've only perceived it as a massive flood because they didn't know any better. Those ancient people may have thought that a flood was covering their whole world while in reality most of the Earth remained unaffected. So what proof do you have of the "magnitude" of that one particular flood? And again, where is your proof is was the work of a god?
The latest investigations say it was probably 150,000 sq. kilometers and extremely fast rising.

http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/evidence-sug...
Ink

Levittown, PA

#312584 Oct 4, 2013
worships reality wrote:
<quoted text>
i view abortion as a human rights issue. my opposition to it is not based at all on religion. i favor the use of contraception. i support sex/contraception education, and i have no objection whatsoever to gay marriage. if i'm a fundie you better start a campaign to have the definition changed.
kills you that you can't pigeon hole everyone you disagree with and that you might actually have to argue the merits of your position rather than resort to personal attacks, doesn't it?
turns you into a stuttering, stammering mess.
She won't buy it that she has a warped view of people who oppose abortion.
Ink

Levittown, PA

#312585 Oct 4, 2013
cpeter1313 wrote:
Neither of which fit the noah story. I never said there weren't catastrophic floods; there were none that works with the myth.
<quoted text>
Why not?
worships reality

AOL

#312586 Oct 4, 2013
Ink wrote:
<quoted text>
You don't know what a fundamentalist Christian is. You call everybody that.
calling everyone a fundie is their catch-all response. they use it in lieu of a real argument for their position. this misogynist obsessed loony tunes and that bigot moon are the worst offenders.
worships reality

AOL

#312587 Oct 4, 2013
Katie wrote:
<quoted text>
I am not shocked *you* believe Ink's going off what you call "facts".[QUOTE]

yes you are. you said "wow".

and what do you know...not mention or apology about your lie that i agreed that gays do not face the possibility of death on someone's whim. that's par for the course for you.

[QUOTE]I completely disagree with both you and Ink. No need to converse further.
you "completely" disgree huh ? let's see we both believe that gays face the possibility of death on someone's whim so there can be no "complete" disagreement there.

i explained how fetuses in fact "do" face the possibility of death on someone's whim. now if you disagree explain why.
my guess is you'll take the cowardly "no need to converse further" approach. why? because you can't explain why.
Ink

Levittown, PA

#312588 Oct 4, 2013
Long Night Moon 13 wrote:
<quoted text>
The Bible is not the original document for any of it's content, and I think you know that, so where is the original written account that was transcribed into the OT? Where is the original document?
Maybe in Israel.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Hebrew_B...
Ink

Levittown, PA

#312589 Oct 4, 2013
worships reality wrote:
<quoted text>
calling everyone a fundie is their catch-all response. they use it in lieu of a real argument for their position. this misogynist obsessed loony tunes and that bigot moon are the worst offenders.
Yeah they wouldn't like it if we referred to them as Gosnells.
Ink

Levittown, PA

#312590 Oct 4, 2013
Long Night Moon 13 wrote:
<quoted text>
You mean like when early science proved all that heliocentric nonsense to be utter, well...nonsense? You mean like that?
No I mean like now. We have advanced. Maybe you haven't noticed.
worships reality

AOL

#312591 Oct 4, 2013
Katie wrote:
<quoted text>
The "belief that abortion is an issue of human rights" is an erroneous belief. Whether Christians or Atheists hold on to it makes no difference.
of course it makes a difference. how is it possible for an atheist/secularist to oppose abortion based on religious beliefs when not only do they not hold any religious beliefs and deny the existence of any deity ?
Nor does it exclude the fact you *believe* you're not acting religiously in your beliefs. Or that religion holds no sway over your beliefs.
who the hell are you to tell me what my beliefs are based on ?
no offense lady but you are a whack job. i picture you as edith bunker....only not nearly as intelligent.
You can keep telling me and others it does not, but your own words belie that message.
really? which words ? and be specific. why must my belief that a fetus is a member of the human race be based on religion or god ? it is consistent with science. it is only "your" subjective/philosophical belief that this human individual is not a "person" or not a "human being".
Besides, what do you care what I think about you anyway? You're probably care for me as little as I care for you.
you stick your nose in and respond to a post not even directed at you...proceed to tell me that what i believe is not really what i believe and then when i dare to respond you have the nerve to ask why ?

you're a kook.

Ink

Levittown, PA

#312592 Oct 4, 2013
feces for jesus wrote:
<quoted text>
What "real" history are you seeking to validate?
I think what you would refer to as 'real history' with real scientists will eventually validate Biblical history.
Ink

Levittown, PA

#312593 Oct 4, 2013
worships reality wrote:
<quoted text>
correction, i "know" i'm not a fundie. i only said she provided evidence of a major flood. which she did. i didn't say that evidence constituted proof of the biblical flood or that i even believed a biblical flood occurred.
It is amazing what you can deny when you don't want to believe something. Be it a flood or that it is a child being killed in an abortion.
worships reality

AOL

#312594 Oct 4, 2013
Long Night Moon 13 wrote:
<quoted text>
Then I imagine you are a bigot against atheists and/or pro-choicers.
not at all. i disagree with one particular position that they hold, nothing more.
i'm not biased against them based on who they are. i would never portray all of them as sexual deviants or negatively stereotype them simply because of what race or religion they might belong to. that's you sweetheart
The shoes fits on either foot...bigot.
you're a complete and utter failure with respect to your attempts to defend your bigotry. you're pathetic.
feces for jesus

Westbury, NY

#312595 Oct 4, 2013
worships reality wrote:
<quoted text>
correction, i "know" i'm not a fundie. i only said she provided evidence of a major flood. which she did. i didn't say that evidence constituted proof of the biblical flood or that i even believed a biblical flood occurred.
Thing is,numbnuts, that we were taking about evidence to back up the noahs arc story. Try paying attention.
worships reality

AOL

#312596 Oct 4, 2013
cpeter1313 wrote:
100% of all fetuses do NOT face "murder",
point of clarification, mutt. i should not have used the term "murder". what bitner said was that 100% of gays "face the possibility of death at someone's whim" while 100% of embryos/fetuses do not.

unless you are referring to the way your loving god slaughters fetuses at random. Women who want to carry have no intention of aborting; the fetus will develop normally unless your deity does something horrific.
<quoted text>
wrong mutt. women who want to carry can always change their minds.....on a whim. even those who claim to be pro life are still subject to changing their mind, either through coercion from another or due to a change in their own personal circumstances. the possibility can never be ruled out. the fact that the killing of a fetus is legal and easily accessible makes the possibility that much greater. at least gays have laws that might deter the "whim" of a potentail attacker.
Katie

Kent, WA

#312597 Oct 4, 2013
Ink wrote:
<quoted text>
Couldn't it have been the same flood reported by many different cultures?
Sure, if you ignore the years in between stories. I mean really. Different cultures and different peoples of different times talking about floods and you think it's just one flood?

It is a known fact Christianity "borrowed" their stories from earlier beliefs. There are three stories of the virgin birth going way back before Jesus was born. And these are identical in detail. Only the names and faces have changed.

And... it's all based on early understandings of Astrology. Like what you call "End Times" actually refers to the end of an age. Right now we're in the Age of Pisces (a fish... hmmm .... ringing any bells?), but will soon be moving into the Age of Aquarius.
Ink

Levittown, PA

#312598 Oct 4, 2013
feces for jesus wrote:
<quoted text>
Thing is,numbnuts, that we were taking about evidence to back up the noahs arc story. Try paying attention.
Why doesn't a massive flood in about the time of Noah not back up the story?
feces for jesus

Westbury, NY

#312599 Oct 4, 2013
Ink wrote:
<quoted text>
We were talking about the connections. That's why they call them male and female. Look it up.
I know plenty about male & female parts or hoses, thank you. You can still place a smaller diameter hose into a larger one. Perhaps I missed the context of your discussion. If I did and am mistaken, I do apologize for jumping the gun.
worships reality

AOL

#312600 Oct 4, 2013
cpeter1313 wrote:
Your concept of right and wrong is not universal. For instance, most cultures oppose stealing because it is disruptive to group unity, which was paramount in small communities. On the other hand, some cultures had a god who looked over thieves, like mercury (hermes); theft was allowable in some circumstances. One of the greatest western heroes was robin hood, who was a thief and occasional murderer.
Abortion beliefs are just that--beliefs. The ONLY beliefs that are pertinent, however, are those of the pregnant woman. She is the only sentient being directly affected by the pregnancy.
<quoted text>
what are you babbling about ? the universality of the concept of right and wrong was not the issue here. the issue was simply the fact that religion need not be the basis for opposition to abortion.

go back to your own little fantasy world where you create issues and arguments that don't exist and then respond to them. don't involve me in them though, mutt.
feces for jesus

Westbury, NY

#312601 Oct 4, 2013
Ink wrote:
<quoted text>
I think what you would refer to as 'real history' with real scientists will eventually validate Biblical history.
Including the creation of our world, 800 year old people, angels, noahs arc & the resurrection of jesus?

I doubt science will ever validate anything of that nature.

Tell me when this thread is updated:

Subscribe Now Add to my Tracker

Add your comments below

Characters left: 4000

Please note by submitting this form you acknowledge that you have read the Terms of Service and the comment you are posting is in compliance with such terms. Be polite. Inappropriate posts may be removed by the moderator. Send us your feedback.

NCAA Basketball Discussions

Title Updated Last By Comments
News Barack Obama, our next President (Nov '08) 3 min scirocco 1,232,616
News Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex ma... (Aug '10) 1 hr Pietro Armando 201,810
News Atheism requires as much faith as religion? (Jul '09) 2 hr thetruth 239,089
How to Recover Deleted or lost Contacts from Sa... 5 hr Timotion 7
Jayhawks dance team #1 10 hr Jeff 1
News Festus Ezeli and the long, strange trip to the NBA 10 hr tom wingo 2
What role do you think humans play in global wa... (Sep '14) 13 hr litesong 5,566
More from around the web