Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision

Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision

There are 315213 comments on the Newsday story from Jan 22, 2008, titled Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision. In it, Newsday reports that:

Thousands of abortion opponents marched from the National Mall to the Supreme Court on Tuesday in their annual remembrance of the court's Roe v. Wade decision.

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Ink

Drexel Hill, PA

#310059 Sep 3, 2013
Junket wrote:
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Like kind. Not prey.
I was replying to this comment:
"...do you think you haven't been influenced by people of faith through the ages. Can you think of one totally atheist culture that operates like ours which was established mostly by Christians escaping England?"
So WHY would Christians be escaping England? Ink, think.
Go back to your history books or even the history channel if you don't want to read. There were different factions of protestantism in England and the puritans were being persecuted by the Church of England.
Ink

Drexel Hill, PA

#310060 Sep 3, 2013
cpeter1313 wrote:
They weren't necessarily church-goers or believers, either. Many were criminals and prostitutes.
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That's just not true. I expected more honesty from you. Have to go for a while.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#310061 Sep 3, 2013
Christians can't pick on me; I don't grant hem that kind of power. But they do try to pick on others who aren't in lockstep with their mythology, using a righteous tone they aren't qualified to wield.
Ink wrote:
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Has some Christian been picking on you?

Since: Jun 08

Location hidden

#310062 Sep 3, 2013
cpeter1313 wrote:
I didn't need a sky-daddy to give my life purpose; I did that myself. We decide for ourselves what matters and what does not. We have secular laws to protect our secular rights. Your god is unnecessary to that equation.
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That woman and her fundie peeps are clueless. Theirs is a nonsensical and simple-minded philosophy. They're lucky that the many non-godbots to whom they depend upon for many of their needs aren't anything like she mistakenly believes. They have no idea how many medical workers are agnostics or atheists.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#310063 Sep 3, 2013
Nobody said socrates was an atheist, and yes, he was obviously wrong about having a soul. But the greek concept of the soul was NOT the same as the christians'.
Ink wrote:
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No I certainly don't think Christians invented the soul.
Since you didn't answer the last question, let me ask another. What would the point of having a soul be without an afterlife?
Or do you think Socrates was wrong in his belief that he had a soul?

Since: Jun 08

Location hidden

#310064 Sep 3, 2013
Junket wrote:
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Not sure about that - wolves take care of their packs and howl when one goes missing. Sometimes they invite a new wolf into the pack.
Are there no Christians in England? That's news to me. Pretty sure that the members of Church of England consider themselves to be Christians. Lots and lots of blood has been and will be shed in the name of religion.
I do not know of any atheist cultures, do you?
:-D

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#310065 Sep 3, 2013
And that's the crux of the debate. You would never abort. Another woman would. BOTH of you should have the equal right to act according to your own beliefs.
RoSesz wrote:
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And I'm betting since you have voiced your thoughts,on use of condoms .
SHould it have been a,possibility..You would HSVE done what you could..And made sure the woman did ... to assure the possible outcome..
My biggest complaint and trust me I know,one very well ..is those who see abortion as birth control ..who do NOTHING to prevent conception
The have three abortions,and US now,worried she could be pregnant again ....
I pray she is not .thing is,she's not sure she could be or what happened ...I pray nothing did that could MSKE her pregnant ..
The two people were,wiped out ...
When I was,older ...a single mom..no support to speak of...I went out of my way to be sure I WOULD NOT conceive ...yo the pint where all else was,not feasible for health reasons .....of having my tubes,tied ...
There,was,no way I was ever giving up another child ..no way I'd h e n abortion ...And I could not support another...
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“Proud to be a Wiccan Priest”

Since: Jul 09

Jonesboro AR

#310066 Sep 3, 2013
Ink wrote:
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Example of what? I just asked a question. I guess you don't have a answer.
You used Socrates to make a point about your christian beliefs. That with out belief there is nothing and life is pointless..

Seriously, Inky, you really need to to quit being so ignorant.. it is painful to see..

So again. Socrates was Pagan And most likely Agnostic. Again for the ignorant one.. It is a tad stupid to be using an historical figure that was Not of your religion and two may have had real doubts about Deities anyways..

I know, thinking has never been your long suit, but please do try occasionally..

“Proud to be a Wiccan Priest”

Since: Jul 09

Jonesboro AR

#310067 Sep 3, 2013
cpeter1313 wrote:
Nobody said socrates was an atheist, and yes, he was obviously wrong about having a soul. But the greek concept of the soul was NOT the same as the christians'.
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Which, in part, was my point..

“Proud to be a Wiccan Priest”

Since: Jul 09

Jonesboro AR

#310068 Sep 3, 2013
Ink wrote:
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More thoughts from Socrates.
If anything in general can be said about the philosophical beliefs of Socrates, it is that he was morally, intellectually, and politically at odds with many of his fellow Athenians. When he is on trial for heresy and corrupting the minds of the youth of Athens, he uses his method of elenchos to demonstrate to the jurors that their moral values are wrong-headed. He tells them they are concerned with their families, careers, and political responsibilities when they ought to be worried about the "welfare of their souls". Socrates' assertion that the gods had singled him out as a divine emissary seemed to provoke irritation, if not outright ridicule. Socrates also questioned the Sophistic doctrine that arete (virtue) can be taught. He liked to observe that successful fathers (such as the prominent military general Pericles) did not produce sons of their own quality. Socrates argued that moral excellence was more a matter of divine bequest than parental nurture. This belief may have contributed to his lack of anxiety about the future of his own sons.
His ideas may have been the beginning of the eventual relationship with a single God in Greece.
**sigh** Irony of your position in using Socrates is really getting past you..

“Proud to be a Wiccan Priest”

Since: Jul 09

Jonesboro AR

#310069 Sep 3, 2013
Junket wrote:
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Like kind. Not prey.
I was replying to this comment:
"...do you think you haven't been influenced by people of faith through the ages. Can you think of one totally atheist culture that operates like ours which was established mostly by Christians escaping England?"
So WHY would Christians be escaping England? Ink, think.
I am of the opinion. That thinking is a little past her abilities...
Katie

Pacific, WA

#310070 Sep 3, 2013
Ink wrote:
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Can't you read? I said that we all have little control over the big things in life.
'Healthy' people drop dead or get killed everyday. If a woman's body can't conceive, she won't get pregnant.
Maybe you are the one person who's life has gone exactally the way you planned with no twists or turns. Mine hasn't and I don't think most have which is why I don't believe it was chance.
Would life not be worth living if it all was random? Or do you think there has to be spiritual entities playing us like pawns in a chess game?

Sometimes the dominoes in life line up perfectly for a horrible, disastrous result. Or sometimes they line up for a thing of rare beauty.

Does it make you feel better, safer, to believe there're somebodies behind the curtain making it all happen?
Katie

Pacific, WA

#310071 Sep 3, 2013
Ink wrote:
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Yes it has but where do you think that thought process came from? What has inspired man to be kind to others and other species? A rare thing in the animal world outside of immediate family. Why do you think it is important to have laws which usually reflect a fairness to others?
Do you think you haven't been influenced by people of faith through the ages. Can you think of one totally atheist culture that operates like ours which was established mostly by Christians escaping England?
Astrology.

Ancient people looked to the stars and connected the dots to make pictures. They then personified those pictures and created stories, precursors to Aesop's Fables.

Man was not always so kind to each other ... as societies evolved, "being nice" evolved as well.

Unless or until some "god" claimed it was cool to wipe out entire societies... Told this to someone in authority in a dream and then they, the followers, acted on it. All believing they were in the right to do such a thing.

Not much has changed since those ancient days ... Men still believe god is telling them to police some other society regardless of the reality. You are no different in trying to police other women from making legal reproductive decisions and giving your god the credit for it.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#310072 Sep 3, 2013
I was honest:
http://www.encyclopediavirginia.org/Convict_L...
Ink wrote:
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That's just not true. I expected more honesty from you. Have to go for a while.

Since: Jun 08

Location hidden

#310073 Sep 3, 2013
Katie wrote:
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Would life not be worth living if it all was random? Or do you think there has to be spiritual entities playing us like pawns in a chess game?
Sometimes the dominoes in life line up perfectly for a horrible, disastrous result. Or sometimes they line up for a thing of rare beauty.
Does it make you feel better, safer, to believe there're somebodies behind the curtain making it all happen?
If one believes that a god controls her life, fine, but for that person to tell others that their existence is meaningless because they don't share that belief is just plain stupid.

“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON,JESUS Christ

#310074 Sep 3, 2013
Junket wrote:
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Like kind. Not prey.
I was replying to this comment:
"...do you think you haven't been influenced by people of faith through the ages. Can you think of one totally atheist culture that operates like ours which was established mostly by Christians escaping England?"
So WHY would Christians be escaping England? Ink, think.
I can answer the question part .

The Christians who wanted to WIRSHIP apart from Catholic and the Church of England were bring persecuted ..a great many for having bibles

England didn't want them there..so they set off fir a place they COUKD worship ..the king had. Nothing to lose ..if they died ..Good riddance .

If they made it the king prospered ..But away from Englsnd they COUKD
It corrupt the CHURCH

These people wanted to worship God as they chose to apart from the CHURCH .
Katie

Pacific, WA

#310075 Sep 3, 2013
elise in burque wrote:
<quoted text>If one believes that a god controls her life, fine, but for that person to tell others that their existence is meaningless because they don't share that belief is just plain stupid.
Agree, Elise. Ink has been on a roll lately, telling us all how she really feels. It's not pretty.
feces for jesus

Thiells, NY

#310076 Sep 3, 2013
Ink wrote:
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What do you think Socrates meant by this?
Shortly before his final breath, Socrates described his death as a release of the soul from the body.
Since the word soul didnt exist when Socrates was alive, I highly doubt he said that.
feces for jesus

Thiells, NY

#310077 Sep 3, 2013
Ink wrote:
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Without God, as soon as you die your life is over and you will be meaningless. Only your children will remember you for a while.
You acyually don't get to decide anything important like when you are born, whether or not you are healthy, whether or not you can have children, when you die or how long you are remembered.
Now, now, Inky.... Those are some might, boisterous things to claim. Do you have any evidence to support your belief/claim/"truth" ?

Since: Jun 08

Location hidden

#310078 Sep 3, 2013
Katie wrote:
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Agree, Elise. Ink has been on a roll lately, telling us all how she really feels. It's not pretty.
Even though she has always been obtuse, her true ignorance and her boundless arrogance is unleashed, apparently. Yeesh!

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