Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision

Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision

There are 311489 comments on the Newsday story from Jan 22, 2008, titled Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision. In it, Newsday reports that:

Thousands of abortion opponents marched from the National Mall to the Supreme Court on Tuesday in their annual remembrance of the court's Roe v. Wade decision.

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Ink

Drexel Hill, PA

#309628 Aug 28, 2013
Bitner wrote:
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I thought you claimed that animals don't have emotions, Witless?
Again, you're trying to have it both ways.
Do they, or don't they have emotions?
And AGAIN, when you say humans are "different mentally" than animals, what do you mean by that?
Compared to the human range of emotions and and interactions, they are extremely limited, and usually pertain to survival

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#309629 Aug 28, 2013
cpeter1313 wrote:
No, because if he knows what you are going to do before you are even born, then you have no choice in the matter--that action is pre-ordained and you can't make any other choice.
Wrong. His knowledge does not equate to control. You are not pre ordained to any choice. You are still free to make any choice you want. The fact that he knows what that choice will be does not negate your free will.
How could an omnipotent being NOT be able to create a being with free will ? If you agree that he cannot then you are acknowledging he is not omnipotent. Can't have it both ways.

You may think you are making a choice, but you really have no other options; you must perform that action.
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No you MUST not. He is not guiding or controlling your action . You are still free to choose. The fact that he knows what choice you will make ( being omniscient how could he not ?} does not negate your freedom to choose.
Try to think a little bit deeper than 1+1=2.

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

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#309630 Aug 28, 2013
Ink wrote:
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That emotion seems to be misguided and inappropriate. Can you imagine if a person showed such pride and delight for toruring and killing a dog or a cat, we would have him under observation because he is showing early signs of a serial killer.
Your opinion of whether or not your cat's emotions are appropriate are beside the point, just another lame deflection from you. The fact is, your assertion that animals don't have emotions, was wrong, wasn't it?

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

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#309631 Aug 28, 2013
DAVID27 wrote:
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No, everything need not be part of his plan at all. Only if that plan is as YOU describe it. Knowledge of does not equal control of. An omnipotent deity can create beings with free will. His omniscience allows him to know what that being's choices will be but he can very well choose to not exercise his omnipotence to control the choices that being makes. Simple concept.
You sound extremely dense by failing to grasp it.
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That's exactly the point you made.....that everything that happens as a result of his creation must be part of his plan. Don't tell me I'm arguing a point you haven't made.
Your strawman was in insisting free will is part of my point. It is not.

"His omniscience allows him to know what that being's choices will be but he can very well choose to not exercise his omnipotence to control the choices that being makes."

And such a lack of action would ALSO be part of his plan, then.

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

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#309632 Aug 28, 2013
Ink wrote:
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Compared to the human range of emotions and and interactions, they are extremely limited, and usually pertain to survival
Prove it.

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

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#309633 Aug 28, 2013
Ink wrote:
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I don't know who is claiming to be omniscient ant omnipotent?
From the book 'God of the Possible'
“God can and does predetermine and foreknow whatever he wants to about the future. Indeed, God is so confident in his sovereignty that he does not need to micromanage everything. He could if he wanted to, but this would demean his sovereignty. So he chooses to leave some of the future open to possibilities, allowing them to be resolved by free agents. It takes a greater God to steer a world populated with free agents than it does to steer a world of preprogrammed automatons…The God of the possible creates the “Choose Your Own Adventure” structure of world history and of our lives, within which the possibilities of human free choice are actualized…A God who knows all possibilities, experiences novelty, and is willing to engage in an appropriate element of risk is more exalted than a God who faces an eternally settled future.”
Your God claims to be omnipotent and omniscient. You just proved that. And he supposedly makes the CHOICE not to "micromanage", which is ALSO part of his plan. As such, there can be nothing that is NOT part of his plan.
Ink

Drexel Hill, PA

#309634 Aug 28, 2013
Bitner wrote:
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Prove it.
I did already amd so did Playa. We agree that my cat has no ability to take my feelings into consideration. Something a person can do.

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

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#309635 Aug 28, 2013
Ink wrote:
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I gave a couple of examples they are more. I already mention my own cat playing with it's dying prey and then not even eating it.
Also having no regard for my personal property when I feed and shelter him. No remorse at all for destroying some thing of mine.
Mentally--inteligence. I do see any cats developing software for IBM.
Cats don't have opposable thumbs.

Are you saying cats aren't intelligent?

“Truly Pro-Life”

Since: Nov 11

Proudly Pro-choice

#309636 Aug 28, 2013
DAVID27 wrote:
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I followed it precisely.....flapjacktits.
You couldn't follow a straight line of iron filings if you were a magnet, eunuch.
Ink

Drexel Hill, PA

#309637 Aug 28, 2013
Bitner wrote:
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Your opinion of whether or not your cat's emotions are appropriate are beside the point, just another lame deflection from you. The fact is, your assertion that animals don't have emotions, was wrong, wasn't it?
When comparing them to humans, they are extremely, limited which makes my point that we were created with a vast difference from animals.

You have to be stupid not to see that. Frankly, you cannot be expect to understand God when you can't even see this simple difference.
Ink

Drexel Hill, PA

#309638 Aug 28, 2013
Bitner wrote:
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One, that's not a plan, that's a hope.
Two, who here is claiming to be an omniscient, omnipotent being the created the universe and everything in it?
Okay, He hopes you follow His plan.

“Truly Pro-Life”

Since: Nov 11

Proudly Pro-choice

#309639 Aug 28, 2013
Ink wrote:
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Are you saying that the cat doesn't have the capacity to respect other life forms or be able to show appreciation?
I'm saying your cat has different priorities than you do. He respects different things. He shows appreciation for things he appreciates.

Like mice.

You just don't like the way he shows it.
Doesn't mean he's 'less than'- just different. His emotions and mental capabilities are every bit as valid as yours.

And by the way - if a cat found a need for software, he'd find a way to invent some....cats are too smart to complicate their lives as much as we do.

“Truly Pro-Life”

Since: Nov 11

Proudly Pro-choice

#309640 Aug 28, 2013
DAVID27 wrote:
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If you acknowledge that this deity is omnipotent then how could it be possible that he could NOT create a being with free will ?
If he couldn't then he would not be omnipotent.
You must have missed the part where I DON'T acknowledge your deity, or his 'omnipotence'. As I've said ad nauseum - I don't believe in your god.
DAVID27 wrote:
<quoted text>The fact that an omnipotent God might then choose NOT to exercise his omnipotence and NOT control your choices is a fact your limited reasoning skills will not allow you to grasp.
The fact that an omnipotent 'god' doesn't exist, is a fact your limitless self-deception skills prevent you from accepting.
DAVID27 wrote:
<quoted text>You're very superficial, hon.
You're very delusional, prick.
Ink

Drexel Hill, PA

#309641 Aug 28, 2013
Bitner wrote:
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Cats don't have opposable thumbs.
Are you saying cats aren't intelligent?
Not to the level of humans. I can't believe I have to tell you something everyone else knows.

Do you see them working on Wall St.?

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

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#309642 Aug 28, 2013
Ink wrote:
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When comparing them to humans, they are extremely, limited which makes my point that we were created with a vast difference from animals.
You have to be stupid not to see that. Frankly, you cannot be expect to understand God when you can't even see this simple difference.
One, you didn't say "limited" when it came to emotions, so your assertion was wrong, wasn't it?

Two, prove their emotions are "limited". Simply repeating it, is not proof.

Neither is your lame attempt to be insulting.
Ink

Drexel Hill, PA

#309643 Aug 28, 2013
not a playa1965 wrote:
<quoted text>I'm saying your cat has different priorities than you do. He respects different things. He shows appreciation for things he appreciates.
Like mice.
You just don't like the way he shows it.
Doesn't mean he's 'less than'- just different. His emotions and mental capabilities are every bit as valid as yours.
And by the way - if a cat found a need for software, he'd find a way to invent some....cats are too smart to complicate their lives as much as we do.
His respect for mice accounts for their demise.
You are either bitner or just as bright.

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

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#309644 Aug 28, 2013
Ink wrote:
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Okay, He hopes you follow His plan.
Since everything is part of his plan, he doesn't have to hope.

If, you idiot, you mean he hopes you make certain choices, that is a belief you are entitled to hold. But for an all powerful, all knowing being that supposedly created everything, then everything is part of the plan anyway.

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

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#309645 Aug 28, 2013
Ink wrote:
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I did already amd so did Playa. We agree that my cat has no ability to take my feelings into consideration. Something a person can do.
Sorry, that does nothing to prove animals don't have emotions.

“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON,JESUS Christ

#309646 Aug 28, 2013
elise in burque wrote:
<quoted text>You missed the point. Think about what you've been fired up about all day.
Did you read the article ..the part about the Pres.

Obama,is,Not sending troops,inti Syria,

And from.what I heard no one is,,sure who let off the nerve gas,..COUKD have been Al Quada.

So who will we bomb .

Will he do it just to show,SOMEONE??,crossed a line

He's,a,politician ..you're surprised by this??

“Truly Pro-Life”

Since: Nov 11

Proudly Pro-choice

#309647 Aug 28, 2013
Ink wrote:
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Okay then just disregard the analogy since you can't see the parallel.
As long as I understand it, that's all that matters.
I see the parallel you're trying to draw...but I'm not the one trying to draw it.

Your analogy is deeply flawed. If you can't see that, it's not my problem. I'm hardly being paid to tutor you in Philosophy 101.

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