Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision

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Thousands of abortion opponents marched from the National Mall to the Supreme Court on Tuesday in their annual remembrance of the court's Roe v. Wade decision.
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<quoted text>Contraception means anything which prevents pregnancy. Celibacy is contrary to pregnancy. Abstinence is contrary to pregnancy. Practicing any method, including 'natural family planning' is contrary to pregnancy - at least the unwanted kind.
Rationalize away, my dear, but NFP is not only contraception, it is deliberate contraception. Flies in the face of God's command to go forth and multiply.
You're the second biggest hypocrite I've ever seen here - the first of course, being that hag of a Nebraskan.
Exactly.*Especially* when people deliberately have sex during the non-fertile times.

Let's face it, the reason some of these people desperately try to assign meanings to words - like "artificial" and "contraception," is so they can pretend they aren't doing anything against G-d's will. They happily agree with whatever the Pope tells them because they really need to hear that the sex-for-pleasure they want to repeatedly engage in is "okay." So, the pope gives them a pat on the back and tells them he's got it covered.

NFP, when used to AVOID pregnancy, IS contraception. AND it goes against G-d's will. This is not open to interpretation. Period.

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Jul 17, 2013
 
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Yes, I know what it means. And the nazi's called themselves socialists even though thy weren't. Surprisingly, the KKK aren't knights, either. You can call your kaffeeklatsch anything you want, but that doesn't make it true.
The pope just said that following him on twitter takes time off of your stay in purgatory. Your church is an embarrassment.
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Peter would never have had a throne. Nor worn a crown..oops tiara.

In the first days if the CHURCH ..the BODY OF THE BELIEVERS.

all the money they had went to the widows and orphans and to support the disciples till they git situated in other towns ..they worked..nit just ran the church ..to get food to support themselves and the poor.

FYI before she can rebutt...I don't hold much with huge megabytes either.

The Churches have been at the forefront in Charity from their beginnings ..they have dine much good.

Who I feel bad for are the loyal parishioners who have had their parishes closed ..around here there are so many languages the churches were like home..But then the dioceses sold their buildings and called it integration ..some of these folks have no cars ..And to find another church that has a Mass in their own tongue..the have to go Mike's away to another county..IF that CHURCH has not been sold .

These people love God ..love their CC CHURCH and its sold out from under them to get money for the dioceses.

I know nothing of Church finance but one can only guess why this is necessary and wonder why a CHURCH that boasts,having a,HEAD ..is not supported by that HEAD when money is needed by the poor in its,parishes..

But then it's nit my church is it ???

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not a playa1965 wrote:
<quoted text>Yes: not having sex is a method of contraception.
Sounds like you finally get it - how amazing.
It took, what, 7 years?

Hey, look how long it took the church to admit the earth was round.

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Maybe Francis,will surprise us ..I thought he might when I saw how humble He is.

We shall see

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<quoted text> No, you are incorrect.*purposely* avoiding sex when fertile is to avoid pregnancy. Contraception means that one is having sex and attempting (via artificial or natural means) to BLOCK potential pregnancy from occuring .
There are times when we should avoid sex. I had scheduled surgery and couldn't risk being pregnancy so I abstained. Nothing wrong with that.
I may want to make love when not fertile. That's okay. I may be in the mood when fertile. Thats okay. I am not FORCED to have sex when fertile. Your analogy says otherwise.
Purposely avoiding sex when fertile in order to avoid becoming pregnant is no different than any other form of contraception.

Contra means "against."

Ception means "conception."

What you are doing is "against conception." It has nothing to do with how it is done.

This is indisputable.

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<quoted text> I am trying to show patience here with you but you are not listening. ARTIFICIAL means to BLOCK pregnancy while HAVING sex is what is wrong because that SEX act was meant for procreation (first and foremost). To use that act that God intended to be open for life and BLOCK a life from potentially being conceived is wrong. Yoh are telling God NO.
It's like unmarried single people using sex for recreational fun with no love or committment. God didn't intend on sex being abused.
By denying your G-d given sex-drive and purposely avoiding sex to prevent pregnancy you are using a form of contraception.

Whether :artificial" or "natural," since interfering with conception when one is fertile is *not* "natural."

It has nothing to do with "blocking." That is an erroneous assumption.

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<quoted text> You got to be joking, if you knew about what Christ taught, you would automatically figure it out.
Oh, the irony!

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<quoted text>Sure as hell hasn't worked in your case, has it...?
Exactly!!

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<quoted text>Jesus said to Peter, the hwad of his earthly church "HE WHO HEARS YOU HEARS ME". He also gave the authority to what is "bound on earth is bound in heaven".
And?

How does that tell us he was against contraception???

It doesn't.

He never said anything about contraception, ever.

It is purely a man-made fabrication, used to control *women*, of course.

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<quoted text>You are misunderstanding what John Paul said. How many times do you have to have that told to you?
Anyone who cares to May read this if interested.

He calls lack of unity among the churches. The sin of both sides basically saying the fault is not important..we should as Christians be TOGETHER IN EVANGELIZING.

And I post constantly on the CATHOLUC forum ...Where THIS BELONGS .

THAT Christ used the CD and the Reformers..it's a God thing and what y are we fighting .

We all believe the basics ON JESUS..
We are not second c lass or faux Christians as you have said to Mr many times...That I do not know,Jesus.

You can call yourself any name you like Persnikety ..knit and pray ..razzmatazz..mercy me..tempest ..Christ have mercy ..oh my gosh.

Unless the entire population of your city has decided out of all the forums on Topix yo find a woman named rosesz to post yo on two different threads...insulting and harassing a perfect stranger.

YOU ARE THE SAME PERSON KNIT ..as you have always been

To continue ..your blessed Pope called for unity.

He is a SAINT IMO...AND you people continue to reject it..along with the apologies he so humbly made to try to get your CHURCH back to the message of the APOSTLE

FOR GOD SO LOVED THE WORLD..THAT HE GAVE HIS ONLY SON
That those who believe in Him ..shall not perish but HAVE ETERNAL LIFE

ALL the translations ..You can look.... say the same thing

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...

BUT NO you all think we MUST convert ..And that is most certainly not your Blessed POPES message ..

http://www.columbia.edu/cu/augustine/a/unity....

In this the Church of Christ is NOT TO BE DEFINED AS SOLEY THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH.

THE whole purpose of Vatican Council. Was to reject that Christ's Church was SOLEY your Church

THE WHOLE COUNCIL ...KNIT

http://vatican2voice.org/6unity/restore_unity...

Did they all meet in vain ..You know better. Please!!!

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Anyone who cares to May read this if interested.
He calls lack of unity among the churches. The sin of both sides basically saying the fault is not important..we should as Christians be TOGETHER IN EVANGELIZING.
And I post constantly on the CATHOLUC forum ...Where THIS BELONGS .
THAT Christ used the CD and the Reformers..it's a God thing and what y are we fighting .
We all believe the basics ON JESUS..
We are not second c lass or faux Christians as you have said to Mr many times...That I do not know,Jesus.
You can call yourself any name you like Persnikety ..knit and pray ..razzmatazz..mercy me..tempest ..Christ have mercy ..oh my gosh.
Unless the entire population of your city has decided out of all the forums on Topix yo find a woman named rosesz to post yo on two different threads...insulting and harassing a perfect stranger.
YOU ARE THE SAME PERSON KNIT ..as you have always been
To continue ..your blessed Pope called for unity.
He is a SAINT IMO...AND you people continue to reject it..along with the apologies he so humbly made to try to get your CHURCH back to the message of the APOSTLE
FOR GOD SO LOVED THE WORLD..THAT HE GAVE HIS ONLY SON
That those who believe in Him ..shall not perish but HAVE ETERNAL LIFE
ALL the translations ..You can look.... say the same thing
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...
BUT NO you all think we MUST convert ..And that is most certainly not your Blessed POPES message ..
http://www.columbia.edu/cu/augustine/a/unity....
In this the Church of Christ is NOT TO BE DEFINED AS SOLEY THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH.
THE whole purpose of Vatican Council. Was to reject that Christ's Church was SOLEY your Church
THE WHOLE COUNCIL ...KNIT
http://vatican2voice.org/6unity/restore_unity...
Did they all meet in vain ..You know better. Please!!!
She's what they call a 'cafeteria Catholic', Rose. You waste way too much time falling down her rabbit holes.

JMO

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It's Doc.
You know, I believe you're right. Well then, he definitely is not getting any more of my attention.

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Bitner wrote:
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You know, I believe you're right. Well then, he definitely is not getting any more of my attention.
Ok I'll bite ..who is Doc

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not a playa1965 wrote:
<quoted text>She's what they call a 'cafeteria Catholic', Rose. You waste way too much time falling down her rabbit holes.
JMO
Probably right ..it's a waste ..But I cannot take her trashing MY faith ..the Protestant faith..And totally ignoring the current icon of her own Faith..

I know many Catholics who a 're nothing like her ..as you say .

Many Catholics are great Christians and act like it.

She thinks NO ONE who is not Catholic is Nit Christian in defiance completely of her own pope and the entire Vatican 2Council.

Wonder if her priest treacherous..But I doubt it..

So what do you call a person who denies and is in opposition to the decree of the CATHOLIC CHURCH ..hmmm I wonder

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not a playa1965 wrote:
<quoted text>She's what they call a 'cafeteria Catholic', Rose. You waste way too much time falling down her rabbit holes.
JMO
Actually keep saying this debate belongs on the other forum .

But haven't seen her there in a few days since she made that comment about me and a stroke..And got called on it.

And she keeps posting her lies here

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Ok I'll bite ..who is Doc
Doc Degall. Used to have an avatar which vaguely resembled Val Kilmer on a long drunk. Thinks he's an expert on moral relativism, and the evils of secular humanism. Loathes women.

Probably got banned.

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not a playa1965 wrote:
<quoted text>Doc Degall. Used to have an avatar which vaguely resembled Val Kilmer on a long drunk. Thinks he's an expert on moral relativism, and the evils of secular humanism. Loathes women.
Probably got banned.
That name sounds very vaguely familiar at least the last part.

This place keeps pulling people back ..truly
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Jul 18, 2013
 
Hear us Lord wrote:
Everything about contraception is a sin, everything. The act of selfishness, hedonism , narcissisum, self hatred , killing of the unborn, this is what people end up being using contraception, married or not.
Obviously YOU have issues with contraception. So what. Are YOU being forced to use it? No, of course you aren't.

Contraception is just fine for any woman who DOESN'T want pregnancy or children and want to prevent the UNWANTED outcome of pregnancy to the best of her ability. Whether YOU like birth control or not is irrelevant.

Motherhood: OPTIONAL, not required.
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Jul 18, 2013
 
sassy JM wrote:
Nothing wrong with avoiding pregnancy during certain times in your life.I had to a few times. But ultimately, the sex act between married couples should be open for life.
That's not for YOU and your toxic church to decide, sASSy. EACH married couple decides whether procreation is going to be part of their sex lives, and if a couple DOESN'T ever want kids, that's none of your bleeping business.

Motherhood: OPTIONAL, not required.

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