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Katie Does Not Read

United States

#305012 Jul 17, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually if the she is me.
I said all I am going to on late term abortion. For two days ..have it my best
It was changing no minds ..mine included. And making us get ticked off..which I DO NOT CARE FOR !
It's s forum..not WW 3
But I am yes in favor if saving the life of the mother ..removing dead babies ..And organs in ectopic pregnancies.
None if which I personally refer to as elective abortion ..
Delivery and surgery I'd how I see it..in a hospital not clinic.
If you wish to keep debating Katie..You two have at it..
YOU were debating Katie, not me. And in the course of said debate she clearly misrepresented your position ( something she does quite often when she's not just flat out lying ) regarding your focus on the fetus to the exclusion of the woman. I merely clarified your position. Something you for whatever reason, were reluctant to do. No need to thank me.
In the future try worrying less about possibly offending someone and worry more about your position on the all important fate of the unborn being presented accurately.
feces for jesus

Westbury, NY

#305014 Jul 17, 2013
sassy JM wrote:
<quoted text> Good informative post.
Too bad for you and piggy peggy that your church and religious beliefs don't override our understanding and knowlege of human sexuality.

Let us know when you're out of the 13th century.
sassy JM

Lake Grove, NY

#305015 Jul 17, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
<quoted text>
I have never given my daughter a condom ...NOR told her to have sex.
Her conversations,and treatment by she and her doctor about at issue are private ..You know absurdly nothing ...And btw it's not your business,
Of course I know nothing about it..hence the reason why I am asking you. I didn't *insinuate* that you "told her to have sex" either.

As a young teenager did you offer suggest birth control pills and condoms as prevention like you do the teens on the TEEN PREGNANCY PREVENTION forum?
Katie Does Not Read

United States

#305016 Jul 17, 2013
Bitner wrote:
<quoted text>
No, he doesn't.
And no, I'm not. I'm bashing YOU. There is a difference. Apparently one you're too stupid to see. Not my problem.
Your derogatory statements regarding priests are clearly indicative of anti-Catholic bigotry and belie your claim of attacking only one individual poster.
You are clearly a pernicious bigot.

“HAVE A BLESSED ”

Since: Aug 08

New Year

#305017 Jul 17, 2013
Katie Does Not Read wrote:
<quoted text>
YOU were debating Katie, not me. And in the course of said debate she clearly misrepresented your position ( something she does quite often when she's not just flat out lying ) regarding your focus on the fetus to the exclusion of the woman. I merely clarified your position. Something you for whatever reason, were reluctant to do. No need to thank me.
In the future try worrying less about possibly offending someone and worry more about your position on the all important fate of the unborn being presented accurately.
In saying I have said all I was going to say in a particular subject..And then agreeing with you about what I mean about saving the moms,life .

I am not being concerned about offence .

Simply stating that to keep on and on saying the exact same thing ..is foolish and only leads to being frustrated and ticked off..myself included.
I have nothing mire to impart..I thought I was clear on emergency delivery and the like ..SINCE I HAVE LEARNED TO MAKE IT VERY CLEAR
ON THAT ..every time I post on abortion .
To the point I myself get sick of me saying it ...so I think I made it clear ..But fir you I repeated it yet again

I have no mire info on late term to impart ..I was saying if YOU and KATIE do..feel free...

Kind if like what I said on NFP to knit today ..
I have said to her all I can on the subject ..she can talk to herself.

then Sassy came on..said the same exact thing...so did I.
To be polite..yes but since she ONKY partially reads back..I thought it important ..

If my opinion ...OPINION ..offends anyone..well that's on them ..since I try very hard NOT TO get personal with anyone ..Not insult them as I have been insulted ..

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#305018 Jul 17, 2013
Katie Does Not Read wrote:
<quoted text>
Your derogatory statements regarding priests are clearly indicative of anti-Catholic bigotry and belie your claim of attacking only one individual poster.
You are clearly a pernicious bigot.
My derogatory statement was about her, and her priest. That is in no way about Catholics as a whole.

You are clearly a troll.

“HAVE A BLESSED ”

Since: Aug 08

New Year

#305019 Jul 17, 2013
sassy JM wrote:
<quoted text> Of course I know nothing about it..hence the reason why I am asking you. I didn't *insinuate* that you "told her to have sex" either.
As a young teenager did you offer suggest birth control pills and condoms as prevention like you do the teens on the TEEN PREGNANCY PREVENTION forum?
http://www.hhs.gov/ocr/privacy/hipaa/understa...

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#305020 Jul 17, 2013
Anything that prevents conception is, by definition, contraception. That includes NFP.

BTW--your jesus never said a word about contraception, nor did he tell his followers to be obnoxious and insulting.
Hear us Lord wrote:
<quoted text>You absolutely don't get it, do you. You are too shallow to comprehend why contraception is wrong. I don't think you could understand what is written about contraceptives and the culture of death, you just don't have the mind to understand and esp NFP. Someone has to take classes and learn how to know when one is fertile and avoid sex which I really doubt you could comprehend with your simple little mind. You have been deceived by the pro aborts who I imagine are filling your little mind up with nonsense who will soon throw you under a bus. It is so sad you can't even understand what Christ taught.You don't understand people who use artificial birth control are selfish ,hedonistic and actually hate themselves.
Katie Does Not Read

New York, NY

#305021 Jul 17, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
<quoted text>
In saying I have said all I was going to say in a particular subject..And then agreeing with you about what I mean about saving the moms,life .
I am not being concerned about offence .
Sorry but when you talk about not caring to "tick off" and worrying that this is a 'forum and not WW 3" you are clearly concerned about offending.
Simply stating that to keep on and on saying the exact same thing ..is foolish and only leads to being frustrated and ticked off..myself included.
I have nothing mire to impart..I thought I was clear on emergency delivery and the like ..SINCE I HAVE LEARNED TO MAKE IT VERY CLEAR
ON THAT ..every time I post on abortion .
Yes you have which makes it even clearer that her misrepresentation of your position should not have gone unchallenged.
To the point I myself get sick of me saying it ...so I think I made it clear ..But fir you I repeated it yet again
I have no mire info on late term to impart ..I was saying if YOU and KATIE do..feel free...
Kind if like what I said on NFP to knit today ..
I have said to her all I can on the subject ..she can talk to herself.
then Sassy came on..said the same exact thing...so did I.
To be polite..yes but since she ONKY partially reads back..I thought it important ..
If my opinion ...OPINION ..offends anyone..well that's on them ..since I try very hard NOT TO get personal with anyone ..Not insult them as I have been insulted ..
Simply clarifying your position for someone hellbent on lying about it doesn't require "getting personal".

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#305022 Jul 17, 2013
Just say no? That hasn't been effective in the history of or species. Promiscuity,fornication, adultery--these are common in every culture and society, regardless of severity of punishment. It is vital that kids--who enter puberty as young as 9, when control is weak at best--know at least enough to prevent a pregnancy.
sassy JM wrote:
<quoted text> Rose, it was your choice to reject the Catholic church. According to your *new* religion, you still agree that God forbids fornication, right? So for you to suggest to unmarried children teens and others how to disobey God by not getting pregnant is wrong.
MANY, like you said, don't come from homes that teach morals but that doesn't mean that it is best for them to be taught by a Christian woman that "if you're going to have sex anyway then at least try to avoid the natural consequences/results of that adult activity meant for married couples".
MANY have great success teaching the youth to JUST SAY NO by explaining everything to them. Kids need love and sound guidance not adults who have no faith in them.
Here is such an example to google "sex has a pricetag" by Pam Stenzel. She goes around to schools and has much success with her powerful message!
Check it out and let me know what you think
Katie Does Not Read

New York, NY

#305023 Jul 17, 2013
Bitner wrote:
<quoted text>
My derogatory statement was about her, and her priest. That is in no way about Catholics as a whole.
You are clearly a troll.
Now it's her priest too huh ? I thought you were only bashing her ? Was her priest on top of her voluntarily or did she force herself underneath him against his will ?
Do you know her priest ? Do you know if he is the type to force himself on unwilling women ? Or are you, as clearly is the case, just generalizing regarding the behavior of Catholic priests ?
You're a vile bigot and your attempts at damage control are laughable.
I may be a troll but this is one troll who's got your number. Big time.

“Truly Pro-Life”

Since: Nov 11

Proudly Pro-choice

#305024 Jul 17, 2013
sassy JM wrote:
<quoted text> Contraception means using artificial or natural means to avoid pregnancy WHILE having sex. There is no sex while practicing NFP.
Nothing wrong with avoiding pregnancy during certain times in your life.I had to a few times. But ultimately, the sex act between married couples should be open for life. That also doesn't mean that we "must" have sex when fertile though.
I can't believe that this conversation is still being discussed. It quite simple to comprehend.It's been explained over and over many times. I think that it's sad when former or non-practicing Catholics don't understand their former or present faith.
IMO this is where most misconceptions are spread like wild fire.
Contraception means anything which prevents pregnancy. Celibacy is contrary to pregnancy. Abstinence is contrary to pregnancy. Practicing any method, including 'natural family planning' is contrary to pregnancy - at least the unwanted kind.

Rationalize away, my dear, but NFP is not only contraception, it is deliberate contraception. Flies in the face of God's command to go forth and multiply.

You're the second biggest hypocrite I've ever seen here - the first of course, being that hag of a Nebraskan.

“HAVE A BLESSED ”

Since: Aug 08

New Year

#305025 Jul 17, 2013
Katie Does Not Read wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry but when you talk about not caring to "tick off" and worrying that this is a 'forum and not WW 3" you are clearly concerned about offending.
<quoted text>
Yes you have which makes it even clearer that her misrepresentation of your position should not have gone unchallenged.
<quoted text>
Simply clarifying your position for someone hellbent on lying about it doesn't require "getting personal".
Ok thanks,for clarifying ..
Did not seem necessary

However ..about offending ..my opinion is mine

I make no bones,about it

Nor back pedal on it.

I PERSONALLY ..FOR MY OWN BENEFIT and peace of mind

CHOOSE to not keep going over points,already made..I know it ticks

ME,off.

Probably the person I am arguing with also

We had no common point of view on it ..

I said so ..

But again you feel free .

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#305026 Jul 17, 2013
The first RCC codification of contraception wasn't until 195AD, by clement of alexandria. Peter would've been nothing but bones and ashes. There wasn't even a catholic church when peter supposedly lived.
sassy JM wrote:
<quoted text>God gave the authority to Peter to make church rules. Don't you know anything about your Catholic faith? Your Uncle is "supposedly" a Deacon but you've never discussed your faith with him?.
Just my opinion but it seems that you don't really want to know tduth about it. You won't go before God and play ignorant that's for sure.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#305027 Jul 17, 2013
No, but he evidently intended that women marry their rapists, that they be sold as sex slaves, that widows should get screwed by their brothers-in-law, etc. Your god's idea of "abused" is sadistic.
sassy JM wrote:
<quoted text> I am trying to show patience here with you but you are not listening. ARTIFICIAL means to BLOCK pregnancy while HAVING sex is what is wrong because that SEX act was meant for procreation (first and foremost). To use that act that God intended to be open for life and BLOCK a life from potentially being conceived is wrong. Yoh are telling God NO.
It's like unmarried single people using sex for recreational fun with no love or committment. God didn't intend on sex being abused.

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#305028 Jul 17, 2013
Katie Does Not Read wrote:
<quoted text>
Now it's her priest too huh ? I thought you were only bashing her ? Was her priest on top of her voluntarily or did she force herself underneath him against his will ?
Do you know her priest ? Do you know if he is the type to force himself on unwilling women ? Or are you, as clearly is the case, just generalizing regarding the behavior of Catholic priests ?
You're a vile bigot and your attempts at damage control are laughable.
I may be a troll but this is one troll who's got your number. Big time.
LOL, no. You're merely a troll.
sassy JM

Lake Grove, NY

#305029 Jul 17, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
I asked you a simple question. Twice you have not answered it.

You are suggesting another mothers young teenager uses birth control to prevent pregnancy but didn't suggest your own young teenager does?

Btw....a YOUNG minor is whom we are discussing, not an adult.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#305030 Jul 17, 2013
She's not bashing catholics, she's pointing out that most catholics aren't self-righteous, screeching, cultish, harpies like knut. But no one has to "stop" repudiating the RCC, especially considering how hateful the RCC has been.
oh my gosh wrote:
<quoted text>Yes, the devil exists, and I see through you that he does. And yes you are bashing Catholics, stop.
Katie Does Not Read

United States

#305031 Jul 17, 2013
Bitner wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL, no. You're merely a troll.
And you are merely a bigot. A bigot who wisely chose not to offer any more of your contradictory drivel in your own defense. You are apparently a bigot who has the capacity to learn from past mistakes.
Slime.
sassy JM

Lake Grove, NY

#305033 Jul 17, 2013
cpeter1313 wrote:
The first RCC codification of contraception wasn't until 195AD, by clement of alexandria. Peter would've been nothing but bones and ashes. There wasn't even a catholic church when peter supposedly lived.
<quoted text>
God appointed Peter to head his church on earth. The Popes down the centuries are his successors.

"HE WHO HEARS YOU PETER HEARS ME".

Recap; God gave the Pope the authority to head his church and to make church decisions. His successors follow suit the way God intended and "the gates of hell will not prevail against it".

Catholic means universal btw.

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