Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision

There are 20 comments on the Jan 22, 2008, Newsday story titled Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision. In it, Newsday reports that:

Thousands of abortion opponents marched from the National Mall to the Supreme Court on Tuesday in their annual remembrance of the court's Roe v. Wade decision.

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Gtown71

United States

#302732 Jun 30, 2013
John-K wrote:
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Are all "temptations" the wiles of Satan?
Are some of those not our own wish for something else--after all, we're "only human." :)
That said, with regards to your "Thou shalt not tempt the Lord," does Satan possess Free Will? If he does, and God is omniscient, doesn't God already "know" what temptations Satan will display?
More interestingly, if Satan were possessed of Free Will, suppose he were to repent.
Would God forgive him?
There's an interesting "sufi" take I believe, on the whole God/Satan theme that Joseph Campbell covers in his "The Power of Myth" series wherein Lucifer is cast out not because of Pride, but because when God unveils his "greatest" creation, Man, Lucifer refuses to bow down before Man. The reason for this is because Lucifer so loved God, that he could not bring himself to bow down before any other than God. For his refusal to do so, he was cast out and it's because of this "unrequited love" that Satan rages against God so.
As for the book of Job, it's my favorite book of the Bible, and it's also the one where I can't see God as anything other than a sadist.
God sets forth the parameters, God allows Satan to throw practically everything against Job, destroying all that Job has and all that he loves in the process and, all the while, with his omniscience, knowing full-well that Job will never "curse him to his face."
IMO, this book makes God look worse than Satan--who's only allowed to tempt, deceive, destroy, with God's permission...
Truth is satan doesn't tempt christians very much at all. Most of our temptations come, when we are drawn away by our "own" lust.

I used to wonder the same thing about satan repenting and being saved, but not anymore. The bible says we will see satan one day, and think wow!?!! This little dweeb of a creature caused sooo much heartache on earth??!?!?!?

He fell when he wasn't satisfied being Gods number one angel, and said "in his heart " that he would be even greater than God.

I've learned with God, it is all about the heart.
A person can say anything, join every church there is, be baptized so many times the tad poles know their first name, yet die lost without God :(
Gtown71

United States

#302733 Jun 30, 2013
persnickety wrote:
<quoted text> I am saying United States can't trump God's law. You will find out soon enough, when you come face to face with Christ..
Well, no doubt, just becouse something is legal, it doesn't make it a good thing. Our laws are getting more and more lax.

Adultery used to be illegal, and still is in many places, but I don't think it is enforced much any more.

Since: Jun 13

Location hidden

#302734 Jun 30, 2013
John-K wrote:
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You seem to feel as though I'm asking you to question your faith.
I'm not. Nor was the book or film I've recommended.
If anything, the book and film ought to be an affirmation of your faith.
If Jesus was fully human, then it's impossible for him to have not sinned--or at least been guilty of "sinful thoughts."
To have a perfect "sacrifice" would mean that he wasn't really human--he was "removed" from humanity by his Divinity and, therefore, not the "required" sacrifice.
To be fully conscious of all that he would not have, of all that he would never experience, to lament that and STILL mount the cross because the redemption of humanity was so much more important is precisely WHY his sacrifice was as important as it was.
This is what Kazantzakis and Scorsese were trying to highlight in their respective tellings of this tale.
No, Jesus does not have a "fling" with Mary Magdalene, during his weakest moments on the cross, Satan shows him the life he could have had, wherein he marries Magdalen, then loses her, marries Mary "and" Martha(the sisters of Lazarus,)--why this part doesn't get more scrutiny I'll never know--has children, grows old, then on his deathbed, is berated by his aged apostles for having "wandered from the Path..."
The book, and film, state at the outset that they're nothing more than speculation--fiction.
However, as I've said before, they're both worth reading, and watching...
No no John I don't think you are trying to get me to question myvfaith

Ok will get a sample on kindle if I can...I heard the MaryvM part and it turned me off

Any way yes HE was the only human. Being divine as well who c would ever be perfect...the perfect lamb as it were.

The whole point of My faiths beliefs is that there is nothing...No penance ..(catholics are mire on the penance thing)

do works ..That can earn us heaven..only the pure blood of our Saviour ..I'm sure Satan taunted Him.on the Cross. But He did not Sin....

And from at least the time He was twelve He knew,He was To divIde Fathers,business.

But I will look at that book if I can.

Anyone who likes kind of real world ..not real-world fiction would like the Chronicles Series and the Reluctant Demon ..series.

Have a lot of other books I can recommend ..But we'll a lot of men. Like theses kind better ...

Since: Jun 13

Location hidden

#302735 Jun 30, 2013
Gtown71 wrote:
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Truth is satan doesn't tempt christians very much at all. Most of our temptations come, when we are drawn away by our "own" lust.
I used to wonder the same thing about satan repenting and being saved, but not anymore. The bible says we will see satan one day, and think wow!?!! This little dweeb of a creature caused sooo much heartache on earth??!?!?!?
He fell when he wasn't satisfied being Gods number one angel, and said "in his heart " that he would be even greater than God.
I've learned with God, it is all about the heart.
A person can say anything, join every church there is, be baptized so many times the tad poles know their first name, yet die lost without God :(
I disagree G ..Satan dies tempt and try to destroy contentment of Christians .

He does NoT want want anyone happy. Just sayin..But yes we have our own lusts ..

Since: Jun 13

Location hidden

#302736 Jun 30, 2013
John-K wrote:
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Well, all I can say is that you must follow your heart and go where it compels you to go.
I do think you're depriving yourself of a rather extraordinary experience in choosing not to read the book, or see the film I've recommended but you've the freedom to choose one way or the other as you will.
Best,
John.
Ok ok lol..since you are such a gracious gentleman..Madame will try it.

As,I say I didnit hear good things at the time.

I did like Superstar and Godspell!!

Since: Aug 09

Location hidden

#302737 Jun 30, 2013
LiIrabbitfoofoo wrote:
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This one is my fave Twilight Zone, and I"m sure it'll come as a GREAT shock!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =C8lF4TS-BgQXX
followed by this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch...
Hah-hah! Thanks for the memories luv!
What's great about the first episode is seeing old actors you've come to love and embrace. Like Rocky Balboa's trainer, or Marion Crane's boss, then following that with Jack Klugman!
Milady, you just may be reminding me of exactly how "old" I'm getting...
;P

“Truly Pro-Life”

Since: Nov 11

Proudly Pro-choice

#302738 Jun 30, 2013
Gtown71 wrote:
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Well like I've said many times, anything one person can talk you into, another can talk you out of. If the sweet Holy spirit / ghost convicts you, and you "yeild" to Him, then your view on all things will forever change.
As a young person, or even older most don't understand many things yet trust "put faith in " those things working. You turn the key in your car, and may or may not understand much, other then you expect it to run. It still amazes me, how pistons go up and down building compression, with rings sliding up and down in sleaves of metap hundreds of tikes a minute, if not thousands,and will do so for hundreds of thousands of miles. I don't fully comprehend it all, but know it works. How do a turn on a box in my home, but can not only see, but hear others hundreds of miles away? Perhaps not the greatest examples, but all I do know, is for years The whole God thing was stupid /crazy to me, yet after having a short encounter with Him, there is now no question what I believe :)
The difference of course, is that I can go to any library and get an explanation of how the combustion engine works. Reading the Bible is a conundrum at best, and a how-to manual for enslavement by a sadist at worst.

By the way: I'm every bit as certain that my belief system is right for me, as you are that yours is right for you. I commune with the Divine daily - and I believe wholeheartedly in its power. But unlike you, I don't feel the need to proclaim my belief to the world, nor do I feel the need to give the Divine 'my whole heart'. I acknowledge its existence, and praise its work in my life...but worship it, I do not. The Divine does not ask that I worship - it only asks that I attend.

Since: Jun 13

Location hidden

#302740 Jun 30, 2013
not a playa1965 wrote:
<quoted text>How can sex be a sin, if we're to 'go forth and multiply'.....one more contradiction, in a long, long line of them....
Christianity is contentious, impossible, and silly.
Ok not really arguing here playa. As I know,your views,..you know mine...just trying to answer John's,Question..

But sex between two unmarried people as in Jesus And Mary M. Would have been sinful. Yes.

The sex act itself is nit sinful..never said that at all... did say to be fruitful ...

I admitted so did not read the book ..got me a sample to check out.

some books I can get in t o. Some not

I had a ton almost literally a huge box of books that looked good but could not finish..one reason I like kindle is the samples:).

Since: Jun 13

Location hidden

#302742 Jun 30, 2013
John-K wrote:
<quoted text>
Hah-hah! Thanks for the memories luv!
What's great about the first episode is seeing old actors you've come to love and embrace. Like Rocky Balboa's trainer, or Marion Crane's boss, then following that with Jack Klugman!
Milady, you just may be reminding me of exactly how "old" I'm getting...
;P
Will have to look st those tomorrow as hubby is asleep.

One I remember reimbursed twilight scared me to blazes.

Joseph Cotton was a heartless guy..some kind if office tyrant.

Gets in an accident..totally paralyzed ..while episode in His head. Thinking .

They think he is des dead dead....the only thing saves him is a tear running down hid cheek..

Still gives me the willies lol..
JBH

Richmond, Canada

#302743 Jun 30, 2013
It is too bad to hear that your economy is not going anywhere, so are many others'.

However, there says that people say they are the so-called superpower.
It was then when there were not that larger populations, that many bigger economies and militaries around the world. Today, when you say you are the superpower, you ought to show to people the many things of superpower nature, including how you would present them with English wording.

There would then look like that superpower is the well-educated people with ability and mental stability. You need to gear up efforts to demonstrate that is so, from everything that you say. As not only that you exhibit knowledge like experts, you should be able to tell that you are the specialists in world matters, which must be proven valuable and crucial as global needs. How can a superpower incriminate public liberty rights in the first place?
While the new world evolves a new phenomena as a huge spectrum of beliefs, philosophy, standpoint of all sorts of jurisdiction based on rules, laws and universal way of rules, can a superpower remain within the diversities of different and many such values on the planet --(for example, to specify the economic standards and values, fit into the new-age planet, obey other countries' laws which give liberty asylum and cultural value of freedom, and not to dictate to others what they need to do according to the free world freedom, etc.)?

As the whole world is uprising, just show the world as the criteria of being a superpower because people are watching and observing.

COULD US STILL BE A SUPERPOWER?

There is no need to read others' wording to come up with an opinion, or copy theirs.

Simply, it might be useful to skip many of those comments writing a line of words like, "What a bozo", "It looks like a son of a gun", "SOB", "BS", or " I am interested in many issues. I want to know the world's affairs", "I would like anyone to give me some enlightening."

However, if you write some English lines like, "Having done many input of matters related to economy, health care, issues concerning global affairs and so on in the past, here is to offer the discussion to enlighten many's minds. Your interests in forging what the direction for this world would be as, need some discussions, whereby some highlights would be given."

Then, there is no dumb soul but somebody speaking out there.

“Truly Pro-Life”

Since: Nov 11

Proudly Pro-choice

#302744 Jun 30, 2013
Madam Kindle wrote:
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Ok not really arguing here playa. As I know,your views,..you know mine...just trying to answer John's,Question..
But sex between two unmarried people as in Jesus And Mary M. Would have been sinful. Yes.
The sex act itself is nit sinful..never said that at all... did say to be fruitful ...
I admitted so did not read the book ..got me a sample to check out.
some books I can get in t o. Some not
I had a ton almost literally a huge box of books that looked good but could not finish..one reason I like kindle is the samples:).
I believe it is the Gnostic Gospels, which one leader or another (maybe King James??) had stricken from the books of the Bible, because it outlined and described the MARRIAGE of Jesus to Mary Magdalen....and the fact that he planned to set her at the helm of his new religion after his death. The Disciples weren't very keen on that idea at all.

Yet another indication that men directed the Bible's teachings, rather than God.

My belief in the Divine is nowhere near as contradictory or confounding as Christianity. I think I'll keep what I've got.
Free at last

Phillipsburg, NJ

#302746 Jun 30, 2013
Yes. Out time is now!

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#302747 Jun 30, 2013
No Relativism wrote:
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:Sigh:
California's Supreme Court struck down the state's 2000 #SSM ban in 2008.
SSM opponents proactively sought a referendum to correct the '08 California's pro-SSM California Supreme Court decision. After referendum came back 52% opposed to #SSM, CA's Supreme Court affirmed it to state Constitution.
THAT is when gays filed a lawsuit and had their GAY judge (Vaughn Walker) at District Court say h8 was unconstitutional.
Since the state of California did not contest Gay Judge Walker's ruling (because they are libturds), citizen proponents of H8 moved case to Appeals Court...then SCOTUS.
However, SCOTUS found proponents of H8 did not have legal standing....so court DID NOT ANY rulings or make offer any opinions on the California situation. None. Zip. Nada.
Foo: "SCOTUS agreed 100% by upholding the previous rulings."
SCOTUS didn't "uphold" anything. They said we can't rule on this case b/c propenents had no legal merit to bring it to them.
Why is this so difficult for you to understand?
Actually, they DID uphold the California Supreme Courts ruling you idiot. Yes, what you said is partly correct, HOWEVER, you - as typical FOR you - leave out quite a bit.

Pay attention to Justice Walker's comments.

"Roberts characterized the defendants as possessing a "generalized" interest in their fight to uphold Proposition 8 while delivering the majority opinion from the bench.

"Their only interest in having the District Court order reversed was to vindicate the constitutional validity of a generally applicable California Law," Roberts said. "We have repeatedly held that such a generalized grievance, no matter how sincere, is insufficient to confer standing."

The defendants were "free to pursue an ideological commitment" to their definition of marriage as between a man and a woman, Roberts said."

On the civil rights question, Walker wrote of this ruling, "Plaintiffs do not seek recognition of a new right. To characterize plaintiffs' objective as 'the right to same-sex marriage' would suggest that plaintiffs seek something different from what opposite-sex couples across the state enjoy -- namely, marriage. Rather, plaintiffs ask California to recognize their relationships for what they are: marriages."

FACT, its now legal in yet ANOTHER state.
FACT, it will be legal in MANY more, including yours before long.
FACT, if you dont like it, you'll be celebrating a brand new THOUGH SHIT moment.

Sucks to be loser you all the time.

“Truly Pro-Life”

Since: Nov 11

Proudly Pro-choice

#302748 Jun 30, 2013
No Relativism wrote:
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You don't make supporters by STRIPPING the voice of those very people.^^^
No one's voice was stripped - you bigots still have the untrammeled right to refuse to get married to a gay person, the unobstructed right to voice your opinion that gay sex is 'icky', and the unvarnished right to refrain from engaging in gay sex.

What you no longer have is a 'special right' to marry - as marriage has now been recognized as 'for everyone'.

When the heteros outlaw divorce, eschew adultery, and give up the ability to marry without having kids, THEN we can talk about how marriage between a man and a woman is the only 'real' marriage.

Until then, shut the fuck up. Your right to marry whom you love is not diminished by extending the recognition of that right to others of whose unions you personally don't happen to approve.

Next.

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#302749 Jun 30, 2013
No Relativism wrote:
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You don't make supporters by STRIPPING the voice of those very people.
Those very people - homophobes and bigots in this case - just like when the question was black and white's marrying - dont GET TO VOTE ON THE CIVIL RIGHTS OF OTHERS.

What part of THAT do YOU not understand.
That was a good way to overextend your welcome. Ya know?
See, here's the thing Sparky, NOBODY THAT MATTERS GIVES A SHIT what you think, approve of or welcome.
You & your gay folk took a dump on the collective heads of Californian voters.
Gives the term "TOUGH SHIT" a whole FUN new meaning! <<grin>>

Don't expect them to give a rat's ass when you come back around whining like a lil' girl. They know who you are now. "....fool me twice, shame on me."
You lost the voters because you morons have no smarts. Bully for you.
^^^ Emotional Intelligence Level Of Monkeys ^^^
Well its nice to see that you recognize that your kind HAVE the emotional Intelligence level of monkeys. But I think its more like cockroaches, and you're being stamped OUT. LOL! Works for me!

I love watching whiney little bitches like you take being constant losers so "graciously". LOL!

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#302750 Jun 30, 2013
not a playa1965 wrote:
<quoted text>No one's voice was stripped - you bigots still have the untrammeled right to refuse to get married to a gay person, the unobstructed right to voice your opinion that gay sex is 'icky', and the unvarnished right to refrain from engaging in gay sex.
What you no longer have is a 'special right' to marry - as marriage has now been recognized as 'for everyone'.
When the heteros outlaw divorce, eschew adultery, and give up the ability to marry without having kids, THEN we can talk about how marriage between a man and a woman is the only 'real' marriage.
Until then, shut the fuck up. Your right to marry whom you love is not diminished by extending the recognition of that right to others of whose unions you personally don't happen to approve.
Next.
That's part of what has him so on edge hon - nobody's ever marrying HIM, male OR female. He's just pissy because HE will never have the rights a married couple would, because NOBODY would have him. Other than his mommy that is..... LOL

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#302751 Jun 30, 2013
not a playa1965 wrote:
<quoted text>No one's voice was stripped - you bigots still have the untrammeled right to refuse to get married to a gay person, the unobstructed right to voice your opinion that gay sex is 'icky', and the unvarnished right to refrain from engaging in gay sex.
What you no longer have is a 'special right' to marry - as marriage has now been recognized as 'for everyone'.
When the heteros outlaw divorce, eschew adultery, and give up the ability to marry without having kids, THEN we can talk about how marriage between a man and a woman is the only 'real' marriage.
Until then, shut the fuck up. Your right to marry whom you love is not diminished by extending the recognition of that right to others of whose unions you personally don't happen to approve.
Next.
Also, I find it hysterical that a 40ish virgin (he admitted that once years ago), is SO interested in preventing womens civil right to make their own medical decisions - as well as trying to prevent two poeple that DO love each other (something he knows he'll never have) from marrying, and more than a bit disturbing that he has these frequent delusions/fantasies about "chidren" that never existed, pretending and going so far as to name them....

poor lil fella, a teeny tiny part of me feels sorry for him. The BIGGER part of course thinks hes an ass. LOL
JBH

Richmond, Canada

#302752 Jun 30, 2013
Where do you think you live, as this is a new globe?

Back in the old days, Hitler Nazis and SS soldiers stormed all over and crushed London and almost demolished it. Hitler won a lot in the first few years during WWII. If they were not the Russians nailing down the Nazis hiding in fox holes, Europe could be as one Hitler Europe.

When Hitler is no longer there, many Neo-Nazis are still out there everywhere and they will do whatever to follow the Nazi or Hitler doctrine. Only Russians can do the job facing Neo-Nazis as they had done it to do about Nazis, but not Britain. If Russians could crush Nazis, they could also burn Britain. Because British were no match to Nazis in the first place, how could they face Russians, also in the Olympics? Germans are no match to Russians in the Olympics either.

Russians are having lots of billionaires. When Russians have money for the most expensive Olympic ever, Russians have lots of money to enhance vital military, with new types of submarines and fast cruise and fighter jets. Russian regiments, marines and infantry are upbeat in the training, coupled with the construction of systems of cruise missile and anti-missiles juncture.
Russia has the backing and support from China, North Korea and Japan. Then Nordic, Baltic, including even Balkan counties, might still be interested in closer relationships with Russians. This will lead to the uncertainty of Germany in the middle as what to do.

Russia has new technology and is well-prepared for cyber work functions and advancing cyber-attack modes if being hacked. The biggest Muslim population country Indonesia is spending huge sums to build its military for preparedness. Then, what do you think Muslims are, with no military and how would they affect the world?

You are no longer facing the old world like what used to be, at the current time after people seeing the disasters of Iraq war. That is concerning breaking world policy of running down the universal law as an outlaw. When the African young people are hoping to embark and intrude to this new world to show their faces and cultures, they still do not know that Triple-K (KKK) are waiting for them to do about, until they become adulthood. Give some hopes of looking forward to seeing Black Africans and watch out the KKK and neo-Nazis. No Africans can do fine with no economies because people just stare at them. Since they slaughtered lots of Blacks before Civil War, who do you think that can do a better job for all diversities of all kinds of people on earth?

People need to figure out what they want, the liberty value, rights standard, jurisdictions, rules of law, in addition to many things else.

What do you think the world is now like, if you can just eat some more sausages, what kind-Russian, by the way?

You are no longer just you any more because you will see lots of new faces of different languages and cultures when facing global migration.

It is your turn to do whatever how you think accordingly.
Forum

Carlsbad, NM

#302753 Jun 30, 2013
Madam Kindle wrote:
<quoted text>
Ok not really arguing here playa. As I know,your views,..you know mine...just trying to answer John's,Question..
But sex between two unmarried people as in Jesus And Mary M. Would have been sinful. Yes.
The sex act itself is not sinful..never said that at all... did say to be fruitful ...
I admitted so did not read the book ..got me a sample to check out.
some books I can get in t o. Some not
I had a ton almost literally a huge box of books that looked good but could not finish..one reason I like kindle is the samples:).
It gets easier when you start escaping from the filth.
40 years that they were stuck in the desert trying
to get out of Egypt.
They were enslaved just like we are.

Since: Jun 13

Location hidden

#302754 Jul 1, 2013
not a playa1965 wrote:
<quoted text>I believe it is the Gnostic Gospels, which one leader or another (maybe King James??) had stricken from the books of the Bible, because it outlined and described the MARRIAGE of Jesus to Mary Magdalen....and the fact that he planned to set her at the helm of his new religion after his death. The Disciples weren't very keen on that idea at all.
Yet another indication that men directed the Bible's teachings, rather than God.
My belief in the Divine is nowhere near as contradictory or confounding as Christianity. I think I'll keep what I've got.
As I said I was only answering a,question..That seemed of interest yo a poster.

We believe the bible alone is inspired.

Gnostics,or whoever can make up whatever they want

As for your beliefs ..I don't understand them but you can BELUEVE as you wish:) and enjoy your freedom to do so.

Even my. F s with says I am to spread the word..plant a,seed..But nothing says HIT PEOPLE over the head to BELiEVE me.

I tell the truth in the best way I can as Christian...if anyone wants more please ask.:)

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