Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision

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Thousands of abortion opponents marched from the National Mall to the Supreme Court on Tuesday in their annual remembrance of the court's Roe v. Wade decision.
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Katie wrote:
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What exceptions was I talking about with NAP?
You might have me confused with someone else.
you're right. it was rose.
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RoSesz wrote:
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Katie..
Your story is similar to mine..just a thought .But maybe you can't
Pay taxes Quarterly but an accountant can help.
I have never made much money ans less as a,private contractor
Went 5 years with no child support..And very little before that..So really know where you are coming from.
The point is without people with some money t h ere is no one to pay you.
And I did not have any govt aid either
Our billionaire friend has bragged about manipulating the market. Overarching bragging on tv about taking out his huge investments just months before the 2008 elections...He has way too much political power for one person to have.
I just had to Google Clowa rd. And Pive n to get those links.I have known about this way before the current administration..It's notices..it was,nothing to do with the Religious Right..I listened than one ..It's not our imagination ..
The government is top heavy with huge debt
SONETIMES people we don't respect have useful information.
This was a dangerous strategy thought of by eggheads in the sixties...
Unfortunately this is coming to fruition thanks to people who bought into it.
And professors who taught socialism in the schools out of which the politicians come
judging by the way the government is run today..I'd say. The people you are afraid of are less useful than the ones that scare me.
And our kids and grandkids will pay the price.
I am not a fan of Falwell and his ilk by the way..neither are most people..
From what I see big mouths on both sides blur the message ..while socialism. Creeps in ..And the government in the person of the I R S. Still has no business hampering one side of the big mouths over the other.. I use my DVR much more before an election.
Rose, am enjoying our discussion, but fighting headache. Hope you are feeling better after your surgery.

Both sides are just fighting for power. Power corrupts. That's why the framers set up things the way the did. For balance. I am all for balance. It's the accountant in me (even though that part's been squelched since I no longer work as an accountant).

What's been going on since Obama took office is a young Congress focusing on getting him out of office. They were so shocked he was voted in for a 2nd term.

This young Congress wastes too much time on nonessential issues. Big issues to them, to the Religious Right, but not for this economy.

I am currently researching the late 1800s up through the Depression. So far what I see is a repeat of history, although not necessarily in the same order. The Gilded Age had no middle class. One thing created following WWII was the middle class. And our country thrived. Some on the Republican side of the aisle would like to see a return to a ruling class and a serving class. They currently look to Venezuela and like what they see over there. I certainly don't like it. Even their wealthy must stand in a line for a roll of toilet paper.

It's not all Republicans wanting this or working toward this, though. And I sense you are probably thinking along the same lines they do. As do I. Like I mentioned the other day, until my state changed our voting practices, I'd vote either party, depending on whom I thought was best qualified for the job. I don't like having to pick a party or pick a side, though. It's disrespectful, I think.

Anyway, hope you're healing up and enjoying your day, Rose.
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worships reality wrote:
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you're right. it was rose.
Now what did I say that you disagree with.

I have only listed 2 things in past 2days regarding katies comments
On the conspiracy of the so called Religious Right..took a break
As I was not in the mood to argue..

Physically nor mentally
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Rose, am enjoying our discussion, but fighting headache. Hope you are feeling better after your surgery.
Both sides are just fighting for power. Power corrupts. That's why the framers set up things the way the did. For balance. I am all for balance. It's the accountant in me (even though that part's been squelched since I no longer work as an accountant).
What's been going on since Obama took office is a young Congress focusing on getting him out of office. They were so shocked he was voted in for a 2nd term.
This young Congress wastes too much time on nonessential issues. Big issues to them, to the Religious Right, but not for this economy.
I am currently researching the late 1800s up through the Depression. So far what I see is a repeat of history, although not necessarily in the same order. The Gilded Age had no middle class. One thing created following WWII was the middle class. And our country thrived. Some on the Republican side of the aisle would like to see a return to a ruling class and a serving class. They currently look to Venezuela and like what they see over there. I certainly don't like it. Even their wealthy must stand in a line for a roll of toilet paper.
It's not all Republicans wanting this or working toward this, though. And I sense you are probably thinking along the same lines they do. As do I. Like I mentioned the other day, until my state changed our voting practices, I'd vote either party, depending on whom I thought was best qualified for the job. I don't like having to pick a party or pick a side, though. It's disrespectful, I think.
Anyway, hope you're healing up and enjoying your day, Rose.
Thanks Katie ..hope your headache gets better.

I find if I get too heated on here my blood pressure goes up and I get. Migraine.

Still in pain but may be a n
Bit better since yesterday ..thanks.

What I see is the RR you speak of is mostly impotent..and I wish the Congress would start at least trying to work
together to get us out if this mess that keeps getting worse. And stop the other side from breaking us.

The real thing that ticks me off is the millionaires up there telling us we need to pay more.
Believe it or not mist Republicans are middle classes. And pay a lot to Uncle..they spend on stupid!!!!

But they allnpkay to their base and points fingers.
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worships reality wrote:
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depends what time period you're referring to.
"....In fact, before 1774 it was not a crime in North Carolina to assault or even kill a slave. After 1774, a white person who murdered a slave would receive only 12 months in prison if it was their first offense. However, according to the 1774 law, if the slave was killed while the white person was using “moderate correction” to punish him or her, there would be no criminal charge."
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it was back then. imagine that.
In 1774 there was no North
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The middle ground for NORMAL people starts with the understanding that abortion has been happening since the beginning of time, and legislation is NOT going to stop that.
The middle ground for NORMAL people then starts with discussions about education and prevention that go BEYOND the unrealistic bullshit of abstainance only.
You're not normal in ANY sense SKanky. You live in a delusional world where these issues are black and white, and LIFE simply isn't that clean cut.
Honey FooFoo: "The middle ground for NORMAL people starts with the understanding that abortion has been happening since the beginning of time, and legislation is NOT going to stop that."

Rape has been happening since the beginning of time.

What's your middle ground on that? Legislatoin is NOT going to stop that, either. Right?
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Meaning, the bible is not relevant to our time or culture.
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Read Genesis where God describes the future of the descendants of Ishmael and write that the Bible is not relevant today, especially vis a vis Israel.

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<quoted text> Choice =death for a living, developing human.
MY child will never suffer that.
A proaborts will.
I CARE for both. You don't care for either. That's tragic that you don't care.
Oh don't get hysterical. Choice = death?? Every woman chooses abortion?

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We know what the law does. How would you feel if you were forced to have an abortion for the sake of population growth?
Let's discuss that if it actually happens. Nobody is forcing you to get an abortion and nobody is forcing you not to get an abortion. You're talking about a hypothetical that doesn't exist in our country. You, on the other hand, want to impose your religious dogma on all women.
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I get sick and discouraged everytime I think that mothers like you are walking on earth when you let other mothers DIE because their fetuses were of more value.
Katie: "...mothers like (JustMe) are walking on earth when you let other mothers DIE because their fetuses were of more value."

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1) CDC reports 39 women died from illegal abortion the year PRIOR TO Roe v. Wade.

2) "90% of illegal abortions are being done by physicians. Call them what you will, abortionists or anything else, they are still physicians, trained as such; ... They must do a pretty good job if the death rate is as low as it is ... Abortion, whether therapeutic or illegal, is in the main no longer dangerous, because it is being done well by physicians."

- From article by Dr. Mary Calderone, medical director of the Planned Parenthood Federation of America in The American Journal of Public Health, July 1960 (i.e. BEFORE RvW)

3) Estimated # of illegal abortions/yr prior to RvW: 200,000. After RvW: 1,200,000. ONE MILLION MORE DEAD BABIES PER YEAR AFTER LEGALIZATION.

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<quoted text>There are thousands of gods. Abraham is a character in a fairy tale. The United States government is not Christian.
Get over yourself.
Even God implied there was more than one god.

1."Thou shalt have no other gods before me."
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If your god wanted people to have kids, he'd make them fertile...right? Shouldn't childless couples just accept god's will?
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You say you're prochoice, but consistently speak out against adoption...and choosing life. You are a full fledged proabort.
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Even God implied there was more than one god.
1."Thou shalt have no other gods before me."
Good call...

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<quoted text>Ummm Sasylicious,, it really doesn't take a Rocket Scientist to know what she thinks.
She supports CHOICE, which IS what the woman who's pregnant wants to do. If a woman is pregnant and decides to keep the pregnancy, and that is her choice to do so, Foofoo would support her CHOICE. If a woman is pregnant and decides not to keep the pregnancy, and she terminates the pregnancy, foofoo would support her CHOICE to do so. She supports women having the choice in either event.
My God, it's like you're accusing her of standing outside a Lamaze class holding up signs that read - Abort before it's too late!
Did you support Casey Anthony's decision to kill her daughter Kaylee when 12 trimesters old?
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R C Honey wrote:
and when I say ALL OPTIONS... I mean keeping it/ aborting it/ adopting it etc.
When's the last time you read a post from a prochoicer who initiated a positive dicussion regarding "keeping it" or "adopting it"?

That's what I thought.....
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and when I say ALL OPTIONS... I mean keeping it/ aborting it/ adopting it etc.
You've been around here for some time.

Certainly you've picked up on how Junket, Katie & cPeterPrancerSize cannot stand the adoption option.

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Katie: "...mothers like (JustMe) are walking on earth when you let other mothers DIE because their fetuses were of more value."
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1) CDC reports 39 women died from illegal abortion the year PRIOR TO Roe v. Wade.
2) "90% of illegal abortions are being done by physicians. Call them what you will, abortionists or anything else, they are still physicians, trained as such; ... They must do a pretty good job if the death rate is as low as it is ... Abortion, whether therapeutic or illegal, is in the main no longer dangerous, because it is being done well by physicians."
- From article by Dr. Mary Calderone, medical director of the Planned Parenthood Federation of America in The American Journal of Public Health, July 1960 (i.e. BEFORE RvW)
3) Estimated # of illegal abortions/yr prior to RvW: 200,000. After RvW: 1,200,000. ONE MILLION MORE DEAD BABIES PER YEAR AFTER LEGALIZATION.
You'd like us to think it's the numbers which really bother you, but it's not the number of 'dead babies' that bothers you: it's the number of women who made a choice of which you don't approve.

All the numbers show, is that that many women got pregnant, and didn't want to be. If you really cared about 'babies', you'd be more interested in PREVENTING unwanted pregnancy, than in obligating every woman who will then be a mother, to take on a responsibility for which she is unprepared.

It seems you just can't handle the fact that women get to decide for ourselves whether we want to become parents or not - you want to decide that for us, and the 'numbers' of women who make the choice to abort frustrate the bejeezus out of your controlling little soul.

You couldn't care any less, about 'dead babies'. If you did, you'd be protesting the number of dead ACTUAL babies resulting from war, starvation, disease, poverty, and ignorance, rather than the termination of POTENTIAL babies resulting from abortion.
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I admitted no such thing, and I support no such thing. You're another pathological liar.
You clearly indicated that "a human" is in the womb.

You also said "of course supporting a woman's right to make her own choice means support of her right to abort,..."
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Katie: "...mothers like (JustMe) are walking on earth when you let other mothers DIE because their fetuses were of more value."
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1) CDC reports 39 women died from illegal abortion the year PRIOR TO Roe v. Wade.
2) "90% of illegal abortions are being done by physicians. Call them what you will, abortionists or anything else, they are still physicians, trained as such; ... They must do a pretty good job if the death rate is as low as it is ... Abortion, whether therapeutic or illegal, is in the main no longer dangerous, because it is being done well by physicians."
- From article by Dr. Mary Calderone, medical director of the Planned Parenthood Federation of America in The American Journal of Public Health, July 1960 (i.e. BEFORE RvW)
3) Estimated # of illegal abortions/yr prior to RvW: 200,000. After RvW: 1,200,000. ONE MILLION MORE DEAD BABIES PER YEAR AFTER LEGALIZATION.
"3) Estimated # of illegal abortions/yr prior to RvW: 200,000. After RvW: 1,200,000. ONE MILLION MORE DEAD BABIES PER YEAR AFTER LEGALIZATION."

Hmmm. This one stands out. Bad grammar? Bad info? Combination of both?

Doesn't matter.

Imo, you're as ugly inside as K&P is. And that's based on your treatment of others. Not very Christ-like. Does fit the Xtian mold, though.

Kinda like that twisted version of the Golden Rule of doing unto others as it's perceived they've done unto you.

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