Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision

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Thousands of abortion opponents marched from the National Mall to the Supreme Court on Tuesday in their annual remembrance of the court's Roe v. Wade decision.

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sasylicious wrote:
<quoted text> EXACTLY. Thank you. Foo DENIES that.
Oh,so does Bitner.
Why can't they just be honest?
Now what are you babbling about?

That's what we've been telling you. How moronic can you be? Pro Choice means supporting the woman making her own choice. It doesn't mean supporting the choice, it means supporting that she makes her own choice.
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Teaching REAL sex ed, with practical knowledge of contraception and fertility, will give kids a working knowledge of how their bodies work and how to avoid pregnancy and disease.
There will always be abortions, both therapeutic and elective.
BTW--lesbians aren't sterile, many in fact DO "produce" children.
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I never insinuated that lesbians are sterile. Of course they can produce children. Do to their lifestyle choices,they don't sleep around with men and risk unwanted pregnancies and abortions. They NEED a man afterall,when they want to conceive.

Foo is obviously not "fertile" any more at nearly age 50 either.

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Sex ed from a nun. Good idea. The biggest sex problem they have is dusting it occasionally.
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<quoted text> Just how many YEARS have you people been discussing preventing pregnancy by using artificial birth control? LOL I mean,you haven't comprehended it by now?
I remember a few years back hearing Mother Angelica on one of her tv shows discussing sex ed. She said that her mom told her about the birds and the bees. It took ONE time for her to "get it". She doesn't understand all the EDUCATION for years to learn a simple concept. I remember laughing so hard. SO true.
MOST of the education as far as our kids are concerned is not about the actual "sex act" but more self-respect,learning to love yourself as God loves you,that you are not a toy for some selfish boy,that sex/love making is a beautiful act for a married couple not just for procreation-but for bonding. THEN you discuss the consequences of that act outside its proper boundaries the way God intended. DISASTER,HEARTACHE,ETC...
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So a woman who can't support herself should have a kid she ALSO can't support? Good thinking.
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Unexpected circumstances arise in life,ones we are not always prepared for.

Just the same,a pregnant woman IS having a baby. TOO late for what "ifs". Is it wrong to help a woman who temporarily needs assistence after finding herself in a bad situation of no money and being abandoned?

If the MAN who impregnanted her acted responsibly,he'd help her and she wouldn't NEED outside help. But hey.....who cares if he got his jollys out and sexually enjoyed himself right? THAT is all that matters since sex is natural right?

I know married couples,who were well-to-do who met with tough circumstances. Should they kill their kids if they can't support them?

GOOD thinking.

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<quoted text>I know. Thing is,people on here constantly make remarks about Catholics thinking sex is dirty if not for procreating,or that we are rigid and ONLY have sex for procreation. NONE of which is true. I hear it all the time. I wonder if most of that way of thinking in your family was all a fact or was it a misconception.
For what it's worth, there are many who *do* feel sex is dirty(particularly oral/anal sex and masturbation) and/or should mainly be had for procreation sake because of religious beliefs. I've seen people on these boards proclaim that. I may not agree with them but they're free to believe whatever they wish and live life as they see fit.

In *my* family, the women were taught that they must be pure yet it was ok if a man slept around. In fact, it was a given, and often encouraged, that a man sow his wild oats before he got married. Women were taught to believe that sex was dirty and something you had to put up with in order to keep your husband happy. I think that point of view was perpetuated throughout the years as a combination of religious beliefs and pure Mexican macho bullshit.

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Rose, a lot of my older posts discuss my dislike of socialism. My dislike of the Affordable Health Care Act. My dislike of blurring the separation between church and state. Most of all my posts are about disliking losing civil rights to personal privacy and bodily autonomy. This is what will be lost if Roe v Wade is overturned and sent back to the states. There will no more federal umbrella for my personal medical decisions that do not need a 3rd party's uninvited involvement at all.
We are not on opposite sides. That's what I've been telling you. But if you wish to believe it, then so be it. You can be fetus focused and I will be woman focused.
Now we are on opposite sides.
Well we agree on the socialism ..And R O E will never be overturned..And we agree on the Healthcare act. Having a steaming bunch of bureaucrats working on my death wishes ain't my idea if a good thing

But it's not us,Christians taking over..it is socialism

YES I hate the ending if life in the womb..But it also woukd be much healthier mentally and physically for the baby NOT to get there
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and when I say ALL OPTIONS... I mean keeping it/ aborting it/ adopting it etc.
Foo considers those all "medical decisions". I wish she was repeat after you. THAT is so simple. So real.

But,she won't.

LOL didn't know adopting out is a "medical decision".

Keeping your baby alive is a "medical decision" too apparently.

Foo to adopted parents..."Yes,I have medically decided to give you my child for adoption".

LOL
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<quoted text>What does someone posting what YOU said(links to prove it)have to do with being a "Xtain" or not OR their behavior?
You are using your bigotry to cover up YOUR words that bury you.
No worries Katie,you're not the only one that does that. Your friend foo does it daily.
It's called provoking. Are Christians supposed to be provoking right out of the gate when attending a social gathering?

What did I say or post to or about NR that necessitated pulling old posts that had no bearing on today's conversation regarding the Religious Right?

Did I shrink from these? Deny these? No. Did I set the record straight? You bet.

And what is your response to this? Calling me a bigot. In three or more different posts. Are Christians supposed to be calling others bigots without provocation?

When they know how to use the word correctly, I mean. No. Of course not. Neither you nor NR behaves as a Christian is instructed to. You are nothing but a bully in the name of Jesus. That makes you both Xtian. Don't forget, bullies get bullied, Amen.

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I suspect rose is like my mother. She hated abortion, but believed just as strongly in minding her own business. I wouldn't classify her as pro-choice as much as non-interference--the essence of a free society.
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"""IF she terminates the pregnancy, foofoo would support her CHOICE to do so."""" """
Oh Rachel,thank you for telling it like it is. Of COURSE it doesn't take a rocket scientist to know what she thinks. EXACTLY what you wrote is what she believes but is TOO COWARDLY to admit. THAT is what this is about.
THAT is what I've been saying the whole time and she is denying.
LOL
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Well we agree on the socialism ..And R O E will never be overturned..And we agree on the Healthcare act. Having a steaming bunch of bureaucrats working on my death wishes ain't my idea if a good thing
But it's not us,Christians taking over..it is socialism
YES I hate the ending if life in the womb..But it also woukd be much healthier mentally and physically for the baby NOT to get there
No, it's not YOU Christians taking over. I have not once said or implied it.

The organization is called The Religious Right. It is an organization, Rose. Been in existence as long as Roe v Wade has been. I gave you the link with the entire history and still you reflect no new knowledge of what the organization is about.

We do agree that preventing pregnancy is far better than terminating it.

But you are still fetus focused and I am still woman focused. The fetus has no awareness of itself. The woman is aware of herself, her life, her circumstances. She is the only one, imo, with any authority on dealing with unwanted/unhealthy pregnancy.
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It's called provoking. Are Christians supposed to be provoking right out of the gate when attending a social gathering?
What did I say or post to or about NR that necessitated pulling old posts that had no bearing on today's conversation regarding the Religious Right?
Did I shrink from these? Deny these? No. Did I set the record straight? You bet.
And what is your response to this? Calling me a bigot. In three or more different posts. Are Christians supposed to be calling others bigots without provocation?
When they know how to use the word correctly, I mean. No. Of course not. Neither you nor NR behaves as a Christian is instructed to. You are nothing but a bully in the name of Jesus. That makes you both Xtian. Don't forget, bullies get bullied, Amen.
YOU made the posts. How is showing them "provoking"?

Why are you so embarrassed of your beliefs now? You were fierce at the time(I remember)to prove your intelligence regarding the subject.

I have been shown posts from YEARS ago of mine. I don't call you or anyone a fake this or that. I OWN my words. UNLESS I made myself look stupid,then I'd lash out,otherwise,they are MY WORDS,MY POSTS. Someone showimg me them is not a bad person.

LOL you are imbalanced Katie. WHAT is wrong with you?

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She would need sperm; she'd never need the man himself.
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<quoted text>I never insinuated that lesbians are sterile. Of course they can produce children. Do to their lifestyle choices,they don't sleep around with men and risk unwanted pregnancies and abortions. They NEED a man afterall,when they want to conceive.
Foo is obviously not "fertile" any more at nearly age 50 either.
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For what it's worth, there are many who *do* feel sex is dirty(particularly oral/anal sex and masturbation) and/or should mainly be had for procreation sake because of religious beliefs. I've seen people on these boards proclaim that. I may not agree with them but they're free to believe whatever they wish and live life as they see fit.
In *my* family, the women were taught that they must be pure yet it was ok if a man slept around. In fact, it was a given, and often encouraged, that a man sow his wild oats before he got married. Women were taught to believe that sex was dirty and something you had to put up with in order to keep your husband happy. I think that point of view was perpetuated throughout the years as a combination of religious beliefs and pure Mexican macho bullshit.
How did they get taught all that, when they wouldn't talk about sexual things at all?

(remember, wouldn't even share about menses cause anything sexual was dirty?)
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Now what are you babbling about?
That's what we've been telling you. How moronic can you be? Pro Choice means supporting the woman making her own choice. It doesn't mean supporting the choice, it means supporting that she makes her own choice.
I didn't say that one HAD to agree with THAT choice,but you still have to ACCEPT that choice of abortion/adoption/giving birth for that other woman in order to be pro-CHOICE.

I am ANTI=CHOICE because I will not agree with that choice for ME or you. I do accept adoption or keeping the baby. Killing shouldn't be a choice.

Anyhoo...

She will not even say those OPTIONS. She hides behind "medical decision". An abortion is a medical decision to pay a Dr to kill their unwanted child, of course. Adoption isn't a medical choice. Nor is giving birth. People used to give birth at home with no Dr around.

Rachel explained the choices that foo refuses to say.

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A pregnant woman may or may not end up with a baby; she is not constrained by your limits. And why does it never occur to you that she got her "jollies" too--and might have been the aggressor?
sasylicious wrote:
<quoted text>Unexpected circumstances arise in life,ones we are not always prepared for.
Just the same,a pregnant woman IS having a baby. TOO late for what "ifs". Is it wrong to help a woman who temporarily needs assistence after finding herself in a bad situation of no money and being abandoned?
If the MAN who impregnanted her acted responsibly,he'd help her and she wouldn't NEED outside help. But hey.....who cares if he got his jollys out and sexually enjoyed himself right? THAT is all that matters since sex is natural right?
I know married couples,who were well-to-do who met with tough circumstances. Should they kill their kids if they can't support them?
GOOD thinking.
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She would need sperm; she'd never need the man himself.
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She NEEDS a man to get pregnant. The man PROVIDES the sperm.

Come ON already.

Unless there is such thing as sperm not from a man that I don't know about?

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Yes I am stubborn..you bet.
Sorry but really the right is NOT making this up. If the right wanted to favor the right via the I R S..it would have done it..But it's only before this LAST election.
I do not want the I R S favoring anyone.
And your right...the 2Sides did used to work together.
The thing is we have much more big government now..and that is not good.
The big rant on Bush was the deficit..it has been hugely multiplied in the last few years.
And the worst is they DPRND so much time getting elected and making the other side look bad ..there is no cooperation at all.
You are afraid of the Religious right.. I am afraid of the socialists.
They are much more dangerous imo..And neither of us like people behind the scenes..But going after these people we don't like should not be the purview of the Fed..unless they break the law.
Now see I was young bug I liked Kennedy..He lowered taxes..both ghosts by in more money and stood up strong against the Commies..No wonder he got killed..congress used to work for us..now it's agsinst each other
When either party has too much power it's not good.
They kicked out Nixon for using His office and the gov for hit lists.
That was a good thing.
We should get rid of any one abusing power.
And yes this really gets to me..
As thinking abortion coukd be outlawed gets to you.
Trust me the latter won't happen..it's too ingrained and political.
So we each from opposite sides see danger ..my fears are already a reality.
You perceive the religious right as less dangerous, because they claim to share your religion - and apparently you think the socialists are more dangerous, because they actually want to put the tenets of your religion in place...feeding the poor; offering medicine to all, regardless of income; and treating men and women equally under the law.

Go figure.

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How did they get taught all that, when they wouldn't talk about sexual things at all?
(remember, wouldn't even share about menses cause anything sexual was dirty?)
Their sex education amounted to "Sex is dirty. Men are pigs. Wait til you're married. You'll find out then."
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A pregnant woman may or may not end up with a baby; she is not constrained by your limits. And why does it never occur to you that she got her "jollies" too--and might have been the aggressor?
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Her getting her "jollies" too or being the aggressor has no bearing on the man who USED her for sex. If he bailed on her after finding out she was pregnant,makes him not only a user for sex,but a deadbeat selfish Dad who wants no responsibility for his actions.

What's interesting,is that if a man runs from his responsibilities,he is a low life dirtbag,deadbeat dad who should take care of his kid...but if the girl runs from her responsibilities and aborts,then she is consider okay and practicing her choices.

In your book anyway.

The book of deception.

What's ya got to say about this Petey?
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-Michelle- wrote:
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Their sex education amounted to "Sex is dirty. Men are pigs. Wait til you're married. You'll find out then."
I see that posters point. You went into vivid detail about what was taught,expected and accepted, but yet you said it wasn't talked about. Obviously it was talked about.

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