Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision

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Katie

Federal Way, WA

#301155 Jun 18, 2013
sasylicious wrote:
<quoted text>What does someone posting what YOU said(links to prove it)have to do with being a "Xtain" or not OR their behavior?
You are using your bigotry to cover up YOUR words that bury you.
No worries Katie,you're not the only one that does that. Your friend foo does it daily.
It's called provoking. Are Christians supposed to be provoking right out of the gate when attending a social gathering?

What did I say or post to or about NR that necessitated pulling old posts that had no bearing on today's conversation regarding the Religious Right?

Did I shrink from these? Deny these? No. Did I set the record straight? You bet.

And what is your response to this? Calling me a bigot. In three or more different posts. Are Christians supposed to be calling others bigots without provocation?

When they know how to use the word correctly, I mean. No. Of course not. Neither you nor NR behaves as a Christian is instructed to. You are nothing but a bully in the name of Jesus. That makes you both Xtian. Don't forget, bullies get bullied, Amen.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#301156 Jun 18, 2013
I suspect rose is like my mother. She hated abortion, but believed just as strongly in minding her own business. I wouldn't classify her as pro-choice as much as non-interference--the essence of a free society.
sasylicious wrote:
<quoted text>
"""IF she terminates the pregnancy, foofoo would support her CHOICE to do so."""" """
Oh Rachel,thank you for telling it like it is. Of COURSE it doesn't take a rocket scientist to know what she thinks. EXACTLY what you wrote is what she believes but is TOO COWARDLY to admit. THAT is what this is about.
THAT is what I've been saying the whole time and she is denying.
LOL
Katie

Federal Way, WA

#301157 Jun 18, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
<quoted text>
Well we agree on the socialism ..And R O E will never be overturned..And we agree on the Healthcare act. Having a steaming bunch of bureaucrats working on my death wishes ain't my idea if a good thing
But it's not us,Christians taking over..it is socialism
YES I hate the ending if life in the womb..But it also woukd be much healthier mentally and physically for the baby NOT to get there
No, it's not YOU Christians taking over. I have not once said or implied it.

The organization is called The Religious Right. It is an organization, Rose. Been in existence as long as Roe v Wade has been. I gave you the link with the entire history and still you reflect no new knowledge of what the organization is about.

We do agree that preventing pregnancy is far better than terminating it.

But you are still fetus focused and I am still woman focused. The fetus has no awareness of itself. The woman is aware of herself, her life, her circumstances. She is the only one, imo, with any authority on dealing with unwanted/unhealthy pregnancy.
sasylicious

Jackson, NJ

#301158 Jun 18, 2013
Katie wrote:
<quoted text>
It's called provoking. Are Christians supposed to be provoking right out of the gate when attending a social gathering?
What did I say or post to or about NR that necessitated pulling old posts that had no bearing on today's conversation regarding the Religious Right?
Did I shrink from these? Deny these? No. Did I set the record straight? You bet.
And what is your response to this? Calling me a bigot. In three or more different posts. Are Christians supposed to be calling others bigots without provocation?
When they know how to use the word correctly, I mean. No. Of course not. Neither you nor NR behaves as a Christian is instructed to. You are nothing but a bully in the name of Jesus. That makes you both Xtian. Don't forget, bullies get bullied, Amen.
YOU made the posts. How is showing them "provoking"?

Why are you so embarrassed of your beliefs now? You were fierce at the time(I remember)to prove your intelligence regarding the subject.

I have been shown posts from YEARS ago of mine. I don't call you or anyone a fake this or that. I OWN my words. UNLESS I made myself look stupid,then I'd lash out,otherwise,they are MY WORDS,MY POSTS. Someone showimg me them is not a bad person.

LOL you are imbalanced Katie. WHAT is wrong with you?

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#301159 Jun 18, 2013
She would need sperm; she'd never need the man himself.
sasylicious wrote:
<quoted text>I never insinuated that lesbians are sterile. Of course they can produce children. Do to their lifestyle choices,they don't sleep around with men and risk unwanted pregnancies and abortions. They NEED a man afterall,when they want to conceive.
Foo is obviously not "fertile" any more at nearly age 50 either.
eyeswideopen

Anonymous Proxy

#301160 Jun 18, 2013
-Michelle- wrote:
<quoted text>
For what it's worth, there are many who *do* feel sex is dirty(particularly oral/anal sex and masturbation) and/or should mainly be had for procreation sake because of religious beliefs. I've seen people on these boards proclaim that. I may not agree with them but they're free to believe whatever they wish and live life as they see fit.
In *my* family, the women were taught that they must be pure yet it was ok if a man slept around. In fact, it was a given, and often encouraged, that a man sow his wild oats before he got married. Women were taught to believe that sex was dirty and something you had to put up with in order to keep your husband happy. I think that point of view was perpetuated throughout the years as a combination of religious beliefs and pure Mexican macho bullshit.
How did they get taught all that, when they wouldn't talk about sexual things at all?

(remember, wouldn't even share about menses cause anything sexual was dirty?)
sasylicious

Jackson, NJ

#301161 Jun 18, 2013
Katie wrote:
<quoted text>
Now what are you babbling about?
That's what we've been telling you. How moronic can you be? Pro Choice means supporting the woman making her own choice. It doesn't mean supporting the choice, it means supporting that she makes her own choice.
I didn't say that one HAD to agree with THAT choice,but you still have to ACCEPT that choice of abortion/adoption/giving birth for that other woman in order to be pro-CHOICE.

I am ANTI=CHOICE because I will not agree with that choice for ME or you. I do accept adoption or keeping the baby. Killing shouldn't be a choice.

Anyhoo...

She will not even say those OPTIONS. She hides behind "medical decision". An abortion is a medical decision to pay a Dr to kill their unwanted child, of course. Adoption isn't a medical choice. Nor is giving birth. People used to give birth at home with no Dr around.

Rachel explained the choices that foo refuses to say.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#301162 Jun 18, 2013
A pregnant woman may or may not end up with a baby; she is not constrained by your limits. And why does it never occur to you that she got her "jollies" too--and might have been the aggressor?
sasylicious wrote:
<quoted text>Unexpected circumstances arise in life,ones we are not always prepared for.
Just the same,a pregnant woman IS having a baby. TOO late for what "ifs". Is it wrong to help a woman who temporarily needs assistence after finding herself in a bad situation of no money and being abandoned?
If the MAN who impregnanted her acted responsibly,he'd help her and she wouldn't NEED outside help. But hey.....who cares if he got his jollys out and sexually enjoyed himself right? THAT is all that matters since sex is natural right?
I know married couples,who were well-to-do who met with tough circumstances. Should they kill their kids if they can't support them?
GOOD thinking.
sasylicious

Jackson, NJ

#301163 Jun 18, 2013
cpeter1313 wrote:
She would need sperm; she'd never need the man himself.
<quoted text>
She NEEDS a man to get pregnant. The man PROVIDES the sperm.

Come ON already.

Unless there is such thing as sperm not from a man that I don't know about?

“Truly Pro-Life”

Since: Nov 11

Proudly Pro-choice

#301164 Jun 18, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes I am stubborn..you bet.
Sorry but really the right is NOT making this up. If the right wanted to favor the right via the I R S..it would have done it..But it's only before this LAST election.
I do not want the I R S favoring anyone.
And your right...the 2Sides did used to work together.
The thing is we have much more big government now..and that is not good.
The big rant on Bush was the deficit..it has been hugely multiplied in the last few years.
And the worst is they DPRND so much time getting elected and making the other side look bad ..there is no cooperation at all.
You are afraid of the Religious right.. I am afraid of the socialists.
They are much more dangerous imo..And neither of us like people behind the scenes..But going after these people we don't like should not be the purview of the Fed..unless they break the law.
Now see I was young bug I liked Kennedy..He lowered taxes..both ghosts by in more money and stood up strong against the Commies..No wonder he got killed..congress used to work for us..now it's agsinst each other
When either party has too much power it's not good.
They kicked out Nixon for using His office and the gov for hit lists.
That was a good thing.
We should get rid of any one abusing power.
And yes this really gets to me..
As thinking abortion coukd be outlawed gets to you.
Trust me the latter won't happen..it's too ingrained and political.
So we each from opposite sides see danger ..my fears are already a reality.
You perceive the religious right as less dangerous, because they claim to share your religion - and apparently you think the socialists are more dangerous, because they actually want to put the tenets of your religion in place...feeding the poor; offering medicine to all, regardless of income; and treating men and women equally under the law.

Go figure.

“GO BLACKHAWKS!!”

Since: Dec 07

Home of Lord Stanley!

#301165 Jun 18, 2013
eyeswideopen wrote:
<quoted text>
How did they get taught all that, when they wouldn't talk about sexual things at all?
(remember, wouldn't even share about menses cause anything sexual was dirty?)
Their sex education amounted to "Sex is dirty. Men are pigs. Wait til you're married. You'll find out then."
sasylicious

Jackson, NJ

#301166 Jun 18, 2013
cpeter1313 wrote:
A pregnant woman may or may not end up with a baby; she is not constrained by your limits. And why does it never occur to you that she got her "jollies" too--and might have been the aggressor?
<quoted text>
Her getting her "jollies" too or being the aggressor has no bearing on the man who USED her for sex. If he bailed on her after finding out she was pregnant,makes him not only a user for sex,but a deadbeat selfish Dad who wants no responsibility for his actions.

What's interesting,is that if a man runs from his responsibilities,he is a low life dirtbag,deadbeat dad who should take care of his kid...but if the girl runs from her responsibilities and aborts,then she is consider okay and practicing her choices.

In your book anyway.

The book of deception.

What's ya got to say about this Petey?
sasylicious

Jackson, NJ

#301167 Jun 18, 2013
-Michelle- wrote:
<quoted text>
Their sex education amounted to "Sex is dirty. Men are pigs. Wait til you're married. You'll find out then."
I see that posters point. You went into vivid detail about what was taught,expected and accepted, but yet you said it wasn't talked about. Obviously it was talked about.
sasylicious

Jackson, NJ

#301168 Jun 18, 2013
cpeter1313 wrote:
A pregnant woman may or may not end up with a baby; she is not constrained by your limits.
<quoted text>
Pregnant means she IS with child. So,yeah,she ended up with a baby when she conceived.

You are talking about a live or dead baby (after having it killed).

Don't want a baby,don't get pregnant. SIMPLE.

If you ARE pregnant,you ARE having a baby.

Abortion kills that baby.

No abortion means nine months later,approx,you will deliver that baby.

“GO BLACKHAWKS!!”

Since: Dec 07

Home of Lord Stanley!

#301170 Jun 18, 2013
sasylicious wrote:
<quoted text>I see that posters point. You went into vivid detail about what was taught,expected and accepted, but yet you said it wasn't talked about. Obviously it was talked about.
I didn't give a vivid detail as to what was taught. I gave a detailed reason for what was *not* taught and why it was not taught.

I said my mother was not taught about sex and her body by her mother. My grandmothers idea of sex education amounted to "Ask your cousin" or "That's dirty. We don't talk about things like that." and I explained why she felt that way because her mother, my great grandmother, was raised the same way because, at the most, she was taught that sex was dirty and you only have it when you're married to keep your husband happy. If you, or anyone else, believes that's a suffice, educational and detailed sex talk, you're free to believe so.
Katie

Federal Way, WA

#301171 Jun 18, 2013
-Michelle- wrote:
<quoted text>
I respect the fact that you, and those you personally know, were taught different views regarding sex. However, I was speaking about *my* family and the way *they* were raised to think and feel about sex.
It wasn't much different than my household. Even with the animals procreating right in front of our eyes. Think we were told it was dirty to dissuade us from trying it out on our own. It worked for some, not for others. What can you do?

Besides, with your Gramma... and her ... what do you call it when she's throwing that mean looking shoe? Heck, I'd shy away from anything knowing that shoe is aimed my way!

LOL :)

“Let the Children”

Since: Aug 08

Come To Me

#301172 Jun 18, 2013
cpeter1313 wrote:
I suspect rose is like my mother. She hated abortion, but believed just as strongly in minding her own business. I wouldn't classify her as pro-choice as much as non-interference--the essence of a free society.
<quoted text>
Sorry to disappoint Peter.

I am very much on the pro life side.

No I don't picket ..But I would try to counsel an alternative if given the chance with someone I know. I think. It's horrid. For both baby and woman.
But I think Roe is too much entrenched in politics to ever be. Overturned..

So barring that........ education. for PEOPLE WHOSE PARENTS CAN'T OR WON'T GIVE IT..the nastier the videos the better. I woukd have PSA s all over the. Place like the smoking ones on M T V and the net. People with diseased..saying be careful ..use condoms.

I'd have vids of birth and ABORTION( would the PC activists allow THAT)
And have birth control education in high school like that.

And if parents don't want this in the class..have it mandatory on the school web. They can watch with their kids kids and have a test on it.

And also let them know the only way to be totally safe is abstinence .

Throw all of it at them in parts easy to understand. And then educate on being as safe as possible .
BC and yes respect for self..HOOKING up is plain uncool ..get celebrities to push this..They live the likelike.

So I guess I'm probably more into this than mom ..But fir heaven sake in this day and age ..having so many pregnancies unwanted and ABORTION in these numbers is the worst news in the women's dept.

It's harder on the moms than using safety and it ends human life.

“GO BLACKHAWKS!!”

Since: Dec 07

Home of Lord Stanley!

#301173 Jun 18, 2013
Katie wrote:
<quoted text>
It wasn't much different than my household. Even with the animals procreating right in front of our eyes. Think we were told it was dirty to dissuade us from trying it out on our own. It worked for some, not for others. What can you do?
Besides, with your Gramma... and her ... what do you call it when she's throwing that mean looking shoe? Heck, I'd shy away from anything knowing that shoe is aimed my way!
LOL :)
It's funny you mention animals as my grandma was raised in the country. The family had farmland in Texas and Mexico. But when it came to talking about human sex and all that jazz, they didn't have discussions about that. It was basically "Don't do it until you're married" and it was the end of the discussion. There really was no detailed discussions or detailed explanations for their beliefs and you didn't question what you were told.

Even to this day, my grandma doesn't like to talk about those things and some of the most hilarious discussions with my grandma involves those subjects. She damn near died of shock when I sent my SO on a Kotex run. She was like: "You can't send him out to the store to buy THAT!" and I was like: "If you're sending him out to the store to buy you some Dulcolax because you can't poop, he can bring back some damn pads!" and that's when she breaks out the infamous chancla and flings it my way, LMAO!! And you can't get her started about sex. She refers to it as "being filthy with each other". As in: "When I stay at your aunt and uncle's house, I don't even dare go into the basement when they're down there because only God knows what kind of filthy things they're doing to each other down there!", I swear, my Gram's a trip!!:o)

“Let the Children”

Since: Aug 08

Come To Me

#301174 Jun 18, 2013
Katie wrote:
<quoted text>
No, it's not YOU Christians taking over. I have not once said or implied it.
The organization is called The Religious Right. It is an organization, Rose. Been in existence as long as Roe v Wade has been. I gave you the link with the entire history and still you reflect no new knowledge of what the organization is about.
We do agree that preventing pregnancy is far better than terminating it.
But you are still fetus focused and I am still woman focused. The fetus has no awareness of itself. The woman is aware of herself, her life, her circumstances. She is the only one, imo, with any authority on dealing with unwanted/unhealthy pregnancy.
Sadly we don't agree that these decision affect two humans . Katie.

I just saw a black woman on tv ..some professor on a panel say with a straight face that if I am white and oppose lat e term abortion it's because we are racist..We do nit want to see any late term elective abortion ..Nit one single bit if evidence says we think either is fine.

Politics..shameful. And I will look up that history when I can..what I read on the last link I got here was its a,movement that all of us who are religious,are lumped in with.

They used to accuse JEWS if running things behind the scenes. Now it's,Christians ...fir people with so much power ..how have we had this administration and Congress fir five years..it makes no sense to be afraid of that IMO

But I'll look for that history.
Having a small surgery tomorrow ..So be busy .

whe Cloward Pivin agenda was enacted since the Sixties leading to bigger government..And now,we have it..
Katie

Federal Way, WA

#301176 Jun 18, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry to disappoint Peter.
I am very much on the pro life side.
No I don't picket ..But I would try to counsel an alternative if given the chance with someone I know. I think. It's horrid. For both baby and woman.
But I think Roe is too much entrenched in politics to ever be. Overturned..
So barring that........ education. for PEOPLE WHOSE PARENTS CAN'T OR WON'T GIVE IT..the nastier the videos the better. I woukd have PSA s all over the. Place like the smoking ones on M T V and the net. People with diseased..saying be careful ..use condoms.
I'd have vids of birth and ABORTION( would the PC activists allow THAT)
And have birth control education in high school like that.
And if parents don't want this in the class..have it mandatory on the school web. They can watch with their kids kids and have a test on it.
And also let them know the only way to be totally safe is abstinence .
Throw all of it at them in parts easy to understand. And then educate on being as safe as possible .
BC and yes respect for self..HOOKING up is plain uncool ..get celebrities to push this..They live the likelike.
So I guess I'm probably more into this than mom ..But fir heaven sake in this day and age ..having so many pregnancies unwanted and ABORTION in these numbers is the worst news in the women's dept.
It's harder on the moms than using safety and it ends human life.
The numbers for the most recent reporting year are around 4M live births annually to about 800K induced abortions annually. There is a net gain of one person every 13 seconds in the USA.
http://www.census.gov/popclock/

"Results: A total of 784,507 abortions were reported to CDC for 2009. Of these abortions, 772,630 (98.5%) were from the 45 reporting areas that provided data every year during 20002009. Among these same 45 reporting areas, the abortion rate for 2009 was 15.1 abortions per 1,000 women aged 1544 years, and the abortion ratio was 227 abortions per 1,000 live births. Compared with 2008, the total number and rate of reported abortions for 2009 decreased 5%, representing the largest single year decrease for the entire period of analysis. The abortion ratio decreased 2%. From 2000 to 2009, the total number, rate, and ratio of reported abortions decreased 6%, 7%, and 8%, respectively, to the lowest levels for 20002009."
http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/ss61...

Please note the number of annual abortions decreased 5% for the last reporting year of 2009. This is good news.

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