Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision

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Thousands of abortion opponents marched from the National Mall to the Supreme Court on Tuesday in their annual remembrance of the court's Roe v. Wade decision. Full Story
rosesz

Ashburn, VA

#297873 May 27, 2013
No Relativism wrote:
<quoted text>
I have no problem posting facts as presented by Lala herself.
You may not like those facts. I know I don't like those facts. But, what's "nasty" is the evil act Lala committed against her baby boy in utero.
Sad still is the fact that Lala continues to promote other mothers killing their babies (evidently to soothe her guilt in the short term; misery loves company. "See, they killed their babies, too! I'm not so bad...")
She may have shared a personal story. Some of us do.
But to keep slapping her in the face like that is abhorrent imo.
And I'm sure whatever she posted was NOT put that way anyway.
Katie

Auburn, WA

#297874 May 27, 2013
rosesz wrote:
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The simple answer Katie is like a lot of stories in the news it touches something inside us. She feels it is her baby for one thing. Secondly though this child has no future she is going to birth her child to spend the rest of her pregnancy and his short life loving him.
The fact that others have come together to celebrate this life is a great thing
.and a story.
Many woukd just abort him. She is not . That also makes it a story.
I believe every life sacred. I know that baby will be with God.
And I do not use the word baby to manipulate anyone. To me they are babies..to the mother it is her baby.
Freedom of speech is for all of us.
I had this same discussion before and afraid we will on this terminology have to agree to disagree.
In some of my posts I use the term human offspring. Just to get around semantics and argue a bit less.
My children in the womb. Even the one that was not planned were babies.
She is not the first or only woman to do such a thing, Rose. There is a poster here who was close to a family who had a child born like Terri Schiavo; with only brainstem activity. During the woman's pregnancy, her prolife doctor refused to tell her the results of tests, so the baby was born. The baby is now a child, without intelligence of that beyond a 3 month old. The work involved for caring for her has depleted the family's resources and the doctor is no where around.

Do you think what that doctor did was ethical? He didn't allow the woman to make her own choices.

What if the woman K&P posted about, what if her pregnancy becomes high risk and there are serious complications? Would you shun her if she and her family make a different decision?
rosesz

Ashburn, VA

#297875 May 27, 2013
persnickety wrote:
<quoted text> The only mean posts on this thread are lillfoofoos.
Reinforcements ..or an old name?? Who cares. We are to believe a total stranger not a friend of anyone else here came here to yell about foo.

Really???
rosesz

Ashburn, VA

#297876 May 27, 2013
No Relativism wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh dear, they shared the gory details of what abortionist Gosnell did to babies. I bet you were upset that the court didn't follow your golden rule of "Judge not lest ye be judged."
Ya know?
{Remove blinders here}
I have said many times Gosnell was demented and some sort of serial killer. I posted in detail what I found out in a special depot on him
The testimony. The jars full of babies and parts. My eyes are wide open thank you.
the regular posters on here agreed. On both sides.

Since: Jun 08

Atrisco Village

#297877 May 27, 2013
rosesz wrote:
<quoted text>
That peace just might come from Him..his little gift just for you:)
We dont have to believe in God for him himto exist.
I used to read in our hospital chapel. Felt closer some how
And, maybe, when I'm sitting in a Hindu temple, Kristina is blessing me. The odds of either are exactly the same. It's all good.
grumpy

Stony Point, NY

#297878 May 27, 2013
Gtown71 wrote:
<quoted text>
I was trying to point out "in a nice way " that cpeter was wrong.:)
We know the fate of satan, which is the lake of fire.
I realize their are many christians within many churches or no church at all, since we are the church. Many believe one should observe the Lords supper every week, some believe as often as they should is ok, and I don't think it matters on much of what we do or how we worship, but there are some things that we must stand firm on.
If one says they are a christian, but that there are more ways than He, or other gods, then something is bad wrong.
If someone says they are a "good " person and that's enough. Again -somethings wrong.
A guy rode a unicycle across a canyon on a high wire, and when finished he ask the crowd how many think I can ride across with someone on my shoulders? They all said yes they "believed ", but when asked who wants to put their faith and trust, and be the first to let me give them a ride? None came forward.:)
"If one says they are a christian, but that there are more ways than He, or other gods, then something is bad wrong.
If someone says they are a "good " person and that's enough...somthing is bad wrong."
The Pope just said that good works is entry into heaven for all. Even atheists!!!
walks with angels

Glastonbury, CT

#297879 May 27, 2013
LiIrabbitfoofoo wrote:
<quoted text>
I was just thinking I was going to look him up and see if he's doing any US tours, I'd LOVE to see him again!
So would I. I hope he brings this tour over to N. America.
rosesz

Ashburn, VA

#297880 May 27, 2013
Katie wrote:
<quoted text>
She is not the first or only woman to do such a thing, Rose. There is a poster here who was close to a family who had a child born like Terri Schiavo; with only brainstem activity. During the woman's pregnancy, her prolife doctor refused to tell her the results of tests, so the baby was born. The baby is now a child, without intelligence of that beyond a 3 month old. The work involved for caring for her has depleted the family's resources and the doctor is no where around.
Do you think what that doctor did was ethical? He didn't allow the woman to make her own choices.
What if the woman K&P posted about, what if her pregnancy becomes high risk and there are serious complications? Would you shun her if she and her family make a different decision?
From the story posted here in the event of emergency I am sure they will attempt to save both. Not let the mom die. They will deliver that child . If it dies or if it dies in the womb they seem like people who will deal. But for now in the story both are are well thank God.I don't shun anyone ever. Can't you tell at least by my posts today.

What I usually shun if that's the Word is not using methods we have to PREVENT the pregnancies. In at least a good portion of them it's pure irresponsibility. Imo. And the "human offspring" in their womb pays the price fir it.

That does not apply in this case.

On that other story they should have been honest..And Imo..Just like with Schiavo..no heroics are required in the first place. You birth them and kiss them . No neonate unit. But that's only my opinion.
walks with angels

Glastonbury, CT

#297881 May 27, 2013
LiIrabbitfoofoo wrote:
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Oh I'm sure they ARE familar, but she's not very good about actually FOLLOWING her "faith".
<quoted text>
It IS a beautiful religion. Stick around, we end up talking about it as others try to demean it and I make sure they dont get away with their lies about my faith.
Then I'll look forward to your insights.

Happy Memorial Day!
rosesz

Fort Lauderdale, FL

#297882 May 27, 2013
elise in burque wrote:
<quoted text>And, maybe, when I'm sitting in a Hindu temple, Kristina is blessing me. The odds of either are exactly the same. It's all good.
Lol
Ok

But you mentioned a Church. Just saying He loves you even if you don't believe in him
walks with angels

Glastonbury, CT

#297883 May 27, 2013
The Prince wrote:
<quoted text>
Your location says you are not "new" here. However, if in fact you are, you will find the proabortion pagans to be vile. They hate Christians but will tolerate you if you betray most of the tenets of the Faith. They hate Christianity, they hate children. Sick and perverted , they push their militant proabotion lesbonic agenda.
My Faith in God is unshakable. My faith doesn't come from an institution. It comes from within. No one here has asked me to betray my faith in God. Nobody has asked me to become a lesbian. Nobody has asked me to get an abortion. So far my conversations have been peaceful and enjoyable.
rosesz

Fort Lauderdale, FL

#297884 May 27, 2013
walks with angels wrote:
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So would I. I hope he brings this tour over to N. America.
Hi there again nice posts today huh? Not counting Ladies or Elise..
Think they are the same person or a friend..
walks with angels

Glastonbury, CT

#297885 May 27, 2013
rosesz wrote:
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Walks seems a nice person. How csn you tell by location if they are new. Mine had me in Frsnce and Ireland one day.
I was on that Catholic is the true church forum today. Didnt see you or razz. Lots of elevated debate. And no nasty though kind of heated..oh well. I thought it would be up your slley when I gave you thr link.
As far as the tenets of my faith Ivtry to follow follow them every day.
We all fall short unfortunately and have to pray to fo better
Good afternoon!

My location is not quite where I really am. It's close. A beautiful day here!
rosesz

Fort Lauderdale, FL

#297886 May 27, 2013
walks with angels wrote:
<quoted text>
My Faith in God is unshakable. My faith doesn't come from an institution. It comes from within. No one here has asked me to betray my faith in God. Nobody has asked me to become a lesbian. Nobody has asked me to get an abortion. So far my conversations have been peaceful and enjoyable.
:)
rosesz

Fort Lauderdale, FL

#297887 May 27, 2013
walks with angels wrote:
<quoted text>
Good afternoon!
My location is not quite where I really am. It's close. A beautiful day here!
Me too on location. One day it showed Mr in Ireland and France and Seattle all in 3hours or so. Lol

He thinks you may be a ringer from that. Or you coukd be. Like they think I am.

It's amazing how knit posts from New Jersey untill today she is back in Nebraska under 2 names. That is why they think everyone does the same..imo

And the vile poster who posted that nastiness about another poster is either a fried or one of her old names.. made a point to go after foo..duh like some stranger has nothing better to do..

It's so silly except for the personal attack. LA LA is Ladilu a very nice woman on here..we disagree on abortion but so do most. Still no reason to cast stones imo

Sorry that made me upset..Just like it did a few years ago.

And to top it off I think she posted it to the wrong person ..oh well.
The Prince

Phillipsburg, NJ

#297888 May 27, 2013
rosesz wrote:
<quoted text>
Walks seems a nice person. How csn you tell by location if they are new. Mine had me in Frsnce and Ireland one day.
I was on that Catholic is the true church forum today. Didnt see you or razz. Lots of elevated debate. And no nasty though kind of heated..oh well. I thought it would be up your slley when I gave you thr link.
As far as the tenets of my faith Ivtry to follow follow them every day.
We all fall short unfortunately and have to pray to fo better
I am here because these proabortion pagans support and promote the killing of unborn children. if you are fine with that, that is between you and God. Many real Christians are not "fine with that".

We have attempted to engage them in a debate on the illogic of their views on killing these children.

So far the pagans have banned to together to have
Christians banned, they use avatars mocking the Faith and God, they call Christians vile and contemptible names.

Maybe you should remind the pagans what this thread is all about instead of reminding real Christians about your faith., We have been persecuted by the heathens since the days of Jesus and it continues. We are standing up to the pagans newest campaign the American holocaust of millions of unborn children killed for no other reason than convenience.

If you are a Christian and can shrug your shoulders over that then I will pray even harder for your soul.

I have yet to read you taking Foofool or bitter or one of many proaborts to task for their vile and sacrilegious remarks, so I do wonder about your real "mission". You would not be the first pretend Christian the pagans have created out on this topic
Katie

Auburn, WA

#297889 May 27, 2013
rosesz wrote:
<quoted text>
From the story posted here in the event of emergency I am sure they will attempt to save both. Not let the mom die. They will deliver that child . If it dies or if it dies in the womb they seem like people who will deal. But for now in the story both are are well thank God.I don't shun anyone ever. Can't you tell at least by my posts today.
What I usually shun if that's the Word is not using methods we have to PREVENT the pregnancies. In at least a good portion of them it's pure irresponsibility. Imo. And the "human offspring" in their womb pays the price fir it.
That does not apply in this case.
On that other story they should have been honest..And Imo..Just like with Schiavo..no heroics are required in the first place. You birth them and kiss them . No neonate unit. But that's only my opinion.
You say, "What I usually shun if that's the Word is not using methods we have to PREVENT the pregnancies. In at least a good portion of them it's pure irresponsibility. Imo. And the "human offspring" in their womb pays the price fir it."

So, you want to see induced terminations criminalized because some women will have one when they chose not to use protection or chose to use protection but for some reason pregnancy occurred anyway?

You cannot see that induced terminations are a responsible choice to an unwanted/unhealthy pregnancy? You cannot see that the embryo/fetus is not aware of its existence or its demise?

Just to remind you, 98% of all induced terminations take place during the first trimester, with the majority of those taking place at around 8 weeks gestation.
The Prince

Phillipsburg, NJ

#297890 May 27, 2013
rosesz wrote:
<quoted text>
She may have shared a personal story. Some of us do.
But to keep slapping her in the face like that is abhorrent imo.
And I'm sure whatever she posted was NOT put that way anyway.
She was happy to do it and made it clear she would do it again and again. She claimed it doesn't even cross her mind. You are OK with that.

Now I am sure you are not anti-abortion but just another pro-abortion person calling themselves something they are not. Let me guess you are prolife but accept the choice of abortion. that makes you just like the phony bitter. Your game is up.

You sit on your hands and bless the unrepentant abortionist. Christians will call the sinners on their actions and defend the unborn children.
Katie

Auburn, WA

#297891 May 27, 2013
rosesz wrote:
<quoted text>
From the story posted here in the event of emergency I am sure they will attempt to save both. Not let the mom die. They will deliver that child . If it dies or if it dies in the womb they seem like people who will deal. But for now in the story both are are well thank God.I don't shun anyone ever. Can't you tell at least by my posts today.
What I usually shun if that's the Word is not using methods we have to PREVENT the pregnancies. In at least a good portion of them it's pure irresponsibility. Imo. And the "human offspring" in their womb pays the price fir it.
That does not apply in this case.
On that other story they should have been honest..And Imo..Just like with Schiavo..no heroics are required in the first place. You birth them and kiss them . No neonate unit. But that's only my opinion.
You say, "On that other story they should have been honest..And Imo..Just like with Schiavo..no heroics are required in the first place. You birth them and kiss them . No neonate unit. But that's only my opinion."

I agree with your assessment above. No heroics. There are some PLers here who believe just about any and every type of artificial life support should be applied in order to give that new life a chance; whether it's in his/her best interests or not. And they do not see reason or the kindness behind not using heroics at times.

This is why I mentioned that woman in the article K&P posted, what if something were to go horribly wrong? What if the parents insisted on heroics against the better judgment of the medical team? Or vice versa? The medical team insisted upon heroics and the parents said no?
Gtown71

United States

#297893 May 27, 2013
grumpy wrote:
<quoted text>"If one says they are a christian, but that there are more ways than He, or other gods, then something is bad wrong.
If someone says they are a "good " person and that's enough...somthing is bad wrong."
The Pope just said that good works is entry into heaven for all. Even atheists!!!
Ok, and?
I cannot help it, becouse many people in the world associate the pope with, with being a christian.

My personal belief, is it would be very hard to be a pope "believing what the believe " and be a christian.

Again -I believe there are many christians whithin the catholic faith, but as a whole the catholic faith teaches everything BUT what Christ taught :(

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