Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision

Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision

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Thousands of abortion opponents marched from the National Mall to the Supreme Court on Tuesday in their annual remembrance of the court's Roe v. Wade decision.

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rosesz

Ashburn, VA

#296995 May 20, 2013
Bitner wrote:
<quoted text>
"But His choice is that " none shall perish" he doesn't want us to be anywhere but in heaven."
Then he wouldn't allow anyone to go anywhere else. He most certainly wouldn't look at Hell as an alternative for humans.
"I do see it as a choice. You don't."
Where there is only one free option, there is no choice.
"Be with God or not with Him. After earthly life is over."
You're downplaying the other destination. I'm not talking about a lack of God. The destinations are either with God, or a place of eternal torture designed BY God.
"Door one riches. Door two the tiger. That is an earthly story.
You think that is unfair."
Nope. I think that a parent kicking their own child out of your house simply because they don't do exactly what you say, when you KNOW that they will have no place to go but a torture chamber YOU created, is an abusive parent.
"You believe something else.
I understand what you are saying really I do.
Not sure what your belief is after you die
Some people believe there is nothing more. That is an easier belief for sure.. I don't."
Neither do I.
"And personally I want to see the God that I love after I die and live with Him forever:)"
Again, I must ask, why would you want to be around a God who is less compassionate than his own creations? One that you have to walk on eggshells around out of fear that the littlest thing you do might result in eternal torture?
The only answer I have for you is I love God. I want to be with Him.

You may not like Him or His eternal law..Bitner.
You want Him to be different. All of our disagreement will not accomplish that..

I accept Him. I love Him.

He does not want any to perish. But some will by their own choice.

I think the choice is clear. You dont like the parameters. I cannot help that.

Have no idea what else you want me to say. I have no other answers for you on this.

So one more thing I disagree with you on. Sorry

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#296996 May 20, 2013
rosesz wrote:
<quoted text>
The only answer I have for you is I love God. I want to be with Him.
You may not like Him or His eternal law..Bitner.
You want Him to be different. All of our disagreement will not accomplish that..
I accept Him. I love Him.
He does not want any to perish. But some will by their own choice.
I think the choice is clear. You dont like the parameters. I cannot help that.
Have no idea what else you want me to say. I have no other answers for you on this.
So one more thing I disagree with you on. Sorry
Rose, I don't believe in him at all. I'm not trying to change something I don't believe in.

I'm also fine with the parameters, given they have nothing to do with me in the first place. I'm NOT fine with someone confusing rules with choice.

Since I was posting to Gtown in the first place, no offense, but I didn't need answers from you.
Gtown71

United States

#296997 May 20, 2013
AyakaNeo wrote:
<quoted text>Then you couldn't have been in church.
Well aka I, my wife, and daughter went to church yesterday morning, not sure why that bothers you, BUT going to church is "suoppose " to help us get equipt to do the work of the ministry. I don't go to church to keep my salvation, I go becouse I am saved. I did not go to church last night though, if that makes you feel any better, but they had a graduation for the christian school, so really didn't have "church ".

Believe as you wish. I believe you, about your marriage, and believe you should be very very proud of such a thing, you are rather rare. Yet you would be much better, if you didn't look down your long nose at us sinners, but I feel untill you see yourself the way God sees you, you will continue to do so.

Peace
rosesz

Ashburn, VA

#296998 May 20, 2013
Bitner wrote:
<quoted text>
Rose, I don't believe in him at all. I'm not trying to change something I don't believe in.
I'm also fine with the parameters, given they have nothing to do with me in the first place. I'm NOT fine with someone confusing rules with choice.
Since I was posting to Gtown in the first place, no offense, but I didn't need answers from you.
Aww ok . I kind of figured out your first sentence there a while back. But here I thought you just liked my voice. Lol.
No problem..
Cause got nothin more any way. And next time I'll let you two duke it out.:)
Gtown71

United States

#296999 May 20, 2013
Bitner wrote:
<quoted text>
"Those who displease Him don't go to Hell, since WE ALL didplease Him. Those who have accepted His free gift "way out " will escape it."
This is your belief. However, I was speaking to Rose then, who likened it to a child getting angry, and telling the parent they hate them.
"If you were bitten by a deadly snake, and offered a medice to keep you from dying, would you accept it? Yet when others tell you of a "medicine" that does far more then save your temperol life, but rather saves your eternal life, you say no thanks I'm good. Hey that doesnte make alot of sense either.
Yet it is what it is, is it not?"
No. Medicines can be tested. What you spout is nothing but your own belief, and no, it does not make sense. Intellectually, emotionally, or spiritually. I will not worship such a petty, abusive being as the one believe in. Feel free, no one is stopping you. But don't try to pretend it's a "free will" choice, when you yourself keep saying it's his way, or no way. That is not free will, and there is no choice when one is not free to choose either without consequences.
"You were bitten by the SIN SNAKE, God could've let you die and go to Hell, but He instead provided an anecdote for your condition, and what do you do? Say no thanks keep it God, I'm all good :) or I have another medicine here called good works that I believe will help my snake bite?!?!?!?"
There is no "snake bite". Who said anything about "good works"?
Your God could have simply not opened up Hell for humans.
Again -that's Gods law. He can do as He wills right? After all He's God.
You want to be next to Hitler in Heaven?
I can think of many others, that according to you should be in Heaven becouse they chose to do whatever they wanted with their free will.

Do you bury loved ones that die? Why not dress them up, and put them on your couch, or at your dinner table?

See death would stink up your living quarters, just.like death would stink up Gods house.

Those who die spiritualy are just that dead in sin.

Those who are.made rightious through.Gods free gift are alive spirtualy and can live with God.
I'm sure some would come to your house and think you're way to strick with your kids, others would think you're not strick enough.

If your kids spit in your face and cursed you, after you gave them life, would you thank them for being who they are?
Gtown71

United States

#297000 May 20, 2013
Bitner wrote:
<quoted text>
Rose, I don't believe in him at all. I'm not trying to change something I don't believe in.
I'm also fine with the parameters, given they have nothing to do with me in the first place. I'm NOT fine with someone confusing rules with choice.
Since I was posting to Gtown in the first place, no offense, but I didn't need answers from you.
Yes, becouse bitner never reponds to post unless, they are addressed to her @@. Lol
Must have struck something with your answers???:)

“And the Horse You Rode in On”

Since: Sep 08

Minneapolis

#297001 May 20, 2013
Gtown71 wrote:
<quoted text>
Yet you would be much better, if you didn't look down your long nose at us sinners,
Peace
You look down your own nose at yourself!! You label yourself a sinner.....you are full of self guilt and paranoia. This is how religion traps you. Now try to convince anyone that you are happy while considering yourself a low life. Your religion makes no sense whatsoever. It instills guilt and shame at every corner, you are guilty for being born.

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#297002 May 20, 2013
Gtown71 wrote:
<quoted text>
Again -that's Gods law. He can do as He wills right? After all He's God.
You want to be next to Hitler in Heaven?
I can think of many others, that according to you should be in Heaven becouse they chose to do whatever they wanted with their free will.
Do you bury loved ones that die? Why not dress them up, and put them on your couch, or at your dinner table?
See death would stink up your living quarters, just.like death would stink up Gods house.
Those who die spiritualy are just that dead in sin.
Those who are.made rightious through.Gods free gift are alive spirtualy and can live with God.
I'm sure some would come to your house and think you're way to strick with your kids, others would think you're not strick enough.
If your kids spit in your face and cursed you, after you gave them life, would you thank them for being who they are?
I love my kids unconditionally. Good parents do. What they do NOT do is to kick their kids out of the house, knowing that the only other place for them to go is a torture chamber that the parent created. An abusive parent does such things.

You're confused. I don't follow your religion, so your afterlife destinations don't worry me. I'm debating the concept of "free will", no more.

Again, it's not "free will" when there is no real choice. And there is no real choice when choosing one of the options will lead to eternal torture. It's that simple.

“And the Horse You Rode in On”

Since: Sep 08

Minneapolis

#297003 May 20, 2013
rosesz wrote:
<quoted text>
The only answer I have for you is I love God. I want to be with Him.
You may not like Him or His eternal law..Bitner.
You want Him to be different. All of our disagreement will not accomplish that..
I accept Him. I love Him.
He does not want any to perish. But some will by their own choice.
I think the choice is clear. You dont like the parameters. I cannot help that.
Have no idea what else you want me to say. I have no other answers for you on this.
So one more thing I disagree with you on. Sorry
This is just pure creepy.

The emphasis on "HIM" even creepier.

You sound lonely amongst other things.

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#297004 May 20, 2013
Gtown71 wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, becouse bitner never reponds to post unless, they are addressed to her @@. Lol
Must have struck something with your answers???:)
No, I was just letting her know that she didn't have to worry about answering my questions since they were addressed to you.

Rose and I get along just fine. Stop trying to make trouble for others.
Gtown71

United States

#297005 May 20, 2013
Morgana 9 wrote:
<quoted text>
You look down your own nose at yourself!! You label yourself a sinner.....you are full of self guilt and paranoia. This is how religion traps you. Now try to convince anyone that you are happy while considering yourself a low life. Your religion makes no sense whatsoever. It instills guilt and shame at every corner, you are guilty for being born.
While you are correct, as far as me being hard on myself, and find it hardest to forgive myself, while able to forgive others. At the same time I am a sinner, but I've been set free from Sin and shame. I don't wear the letter A on my shirt. I'm also aware that my sins have been forgiven, by God, and any guilt I hang onto is my fault

I don't believe that there is a chance, or that I might "make it " to Heaven -I believe I'm already seated there in Gods eyes, and though many if not most denominations will teach and preach people the very thing you're talking about, I don't believe it is biblical.

God doesn't want His children walking around singing woe is me.
We are victoreous, even though we don't act like it.
Salvation is sooo simple a child can grasp it, but adults make it complicated.

God made it easy so All people could partake of it. I'm far from the smartest person here, but living near ms, I have met some people, in food banks, and jails, that are very simple minded folks. Some cannot read or write, but I've got to see some of them come to Christ. It is an amazing thing to see.

One of those ladies told me about being in the hospital, it was the first time she had seen a doctor, even though she was near 50 yo. She was in alot of pain, doubled over in the floor next to her hospital bed. Doctors were running test, and told her mom something was bad wrong, and they didn't know if she would live. The woman told me, she thought she was dying, and could only remember how one of us told her, if you ever need help you can call on Jesus anytime. She called on Jesus there in the floor. She immediately felt better, and got up and unplugged herself and walked out. She then confessed that she and her husband drank beer everyday, and fought and cursed each other alot. She said ever since that day, she had not drank any beer, and quite cursing her husband. She said he still drank though :)

See she got saved "born again " saved :)

I watched a well meaning preacher do everyy
Thing BUT slap.a sinners prayer out of this woman only a few weeks prior to this, and it done my heart good, to see she really did get saved after all of that mess.
rosesz

Ashburn, VA

#297006 May 20, 2013
Morgana 9 wrote:
<quoted text>
This is just pure creepy.
The emphasis on "HIM" even creepier.
You sound lonely amongst other things.


Nothing creepy at all about faith. My life is fuller for having it.

He is God. He created everything. I believe He sent His son to die for me. I want the relationship with Him for sure.

Lonely? Well I don't get out much. My preference actually.. But have thankfully husband and family. So nope not. Besides I now have all my great frenemies on Topix.what more could I ask for (in this world)' more time with the grandkids maybe.

I like having the time to post here.
Gtown71

United States

#297007 May 20, 2013
Bitner wrote:
<quoted text>
I love my kids unconditionally. Good parents do. What they do NOT do is to kick their kids out of the house, knowing that the only other place for them to go is a torture chamber that the parent created. An abusive parent does such things.
You're confused. I don't follow your religion, so your afterlife destinations don't worry me. I'm debating the concept of "free will", no more.
Again, it's not "free will" when there is no real choice. And there is no real choice when choosing one of the options will lead to eternal torture. It's that simple.
You seem to have an issue with free will.

I am an adult, I can freely go to a bar, and a strip club, but those choices would have an effect on me don't you think?

I also have the free will and power to blow someones head off, lets say it is a bad man who no one in town likes, and most if not all are very thankful I killed him, but I get the death sentence or life in prison.

Many may say, that's not fair, but it wouldn't help me at all.

Now had man not ever built them prisons or death chambers, then I could do as I please.

Take it another way, if I was to make me up some meth and take it, who am I hurting but myself??? So why would I go to jail if they caught me making it and taking it in my own home? Is that fair?

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#297009 May 20, 2013
Gtown71 wrote:
<quoted text>
"You seem to have an issue with free will."

No, I do not. I am taking issue with what you are trying to pass off as "free will". It is no such thing.

"I am an adult, I can freely go to a bar, and a strip club, but those choices would have an effect on me don't you think?"

Nothing to do with my point, but whatever. See if you choose to go, or choose not to go, no one is going to evict you from your home to a place they created for torture. Which makes it a real choice.

"I also have the free will and power to blow someones head off, lets say it is a bad man who no one in town likes, and most if not all are very thankful I killed him, but I get the death sentence or life in prison."

You're still confusing choice with rules that must be obeyed. There is a difference. Again, it is not really a choice when one option will bring eternal torture if chosen over the other.

"Many may say, that's not fair, but it wouldn't help me at all.
Now had man not ever built them prisons or death chambers, then I could do as I please."

Not really, and you're still missing the point. Not my fault.

Take it another way, if I was to make me up some meth and take it, who am I hurting but myself??? So why would I go to jail if they caught me making it and taking it in my own home? Is that fair?"

Again, you're talking about laws, which is another way of saying rules that must be obeyed. That is a different thing from choice.

Two examples.

1)Your boss outlines the duties you're expected to perform. The choice is not yours, you must do them as part of your job. Sometimes you do them, sometimes you don't. Come review time, you don't get a raise, because you did not adequately perform your job. You didn't follow the rules.

2)Your boss tells you that sometimes you may get bored with your assigned duties. They tell you that if you want to do extra work, that's fine, but you never HAVE to do it. The choice is yours. You do it sometimes, other times you do not. When review time comes, you don't get a raise BECAUSE you sometimes didn't do the work you were told was your choice.

The former is an example of rules, the latter of choice. The lack of a raise for the former is understandable, for the latter, it's not.

You are trying to pretend that rules that must be obeyed or there will be consequences, is the same thing as choice. It's not the same thing at all.

True choice means one is free to choose either option without fear of punishment.

Since: Jun 08

Atrisco Village

#297010 May 20, 2013
Bitner wrote:
<quoted text>
You did not. I'll ask again. If I kicked my kid out of the house for telling me they hate me, and their only place to go was a torture chamber I'd devised, wouldn't you consider me an abusive parent?
God can do it because he loves you, but you didn't jump through his arbitrary hoops, and so he has no choice but to condemn you to the freaky punishment that he chose to design. It's not his fault; it's out of his hands. Makes perfect sense, lol:-!

Since: Jun 08

Atrisco Village

#297011 May 20, 2013
rosesz wrote:
<quoted text>
Well yes it would be abusive for HUMAN being.But you are not God. You have not warned and cajoled your creations for thousands of years.
You have not the power to destroy the world nor to save your people out of slavery by miraculous means
People say ..dunno about you. That the there is no God and then say he is bad because bad things happen. He set a natural order in Eden . The earth natural laws are his but he does not cause every storm. They happen.
About us again there are 2 places after we die. One is HOME with God and one is a very less nice place. Again it's His world .we live our afterlife by HIS rules.
He does not live by ours.
Th e 're is really not a good human example. But say you take a job .
You need money. Your boss is nice but part of the job is not to your liking. But it must be done. Your boss gives you a bonus and praise if you do your job well..you decide that the scrappy things are beneath you. The boss likes you so you think. Ok I'm skip that today.
The boss notices. Says hey Burner you forgot to do that.please do.
You keep skipping it..Then you get sassy about it..sooner or later the nice boss will kick you yo the curb.
Or another example not original. You are invited to a wedding. They really want you to celebrate with them. You and others don't even come. There is all this food and cake. Do the host winds up giving it away to others who really enjoy it.
In both cases who is at fault. The boss..the host???
Again it's God's heaven to share. He dies not follow our rules or laws.
Please, don't pretend it makes sense. We all know that that's why it's called faith. To try to convince a non-believer that there is logic in a philosophy that is based upon pure faith, blind faith is silly. I respect anyone's personal spiritual beliefs, as long as they don't harm others in the name of those beliefs. Trying to argue that one's faith makes more sense than another, based upon purely fantastic stories is futile. You, like most religious people that I know, aren't obnoxious about it. Thank you for that.

Since: Jun 08

Atrisco Village

#297012 May 20, 2013
rosesz wrote:
<quoted text>
She is STILL convinced I am not me. My lol spelling is a bit better.
Why I would pose as an old poster I have no idea at all lol
Razzmatazz posts under several screen names, so she thinks everyone is like her. In other words, she's nuts.

“And the Horse You Rode in On”

Since: Sep 08

Minneapolis

#297013 May 20, 2013
Gtown71 wrote:
<quoted text>
While you are correct, as far as me being hard on myself, and find it hardest to forgive myself, while able to forgive others. At the same time I am a sinner, but I've been set free from Sin and shame. I don't wear the letter A on my shirt. I'm also aware that my sins have been forgiven, by God, and any guilt I hang onto is my fault
I don't believe that there is a chance, or that I might "make it " to Heaven -I believe I'm already seated there in Gods eyes, and though many if not most denominations will teach and preach people the very thing you're talking about, I don't believe it is biblical.
God doesn't want His children walking around singing woe is me.
We are victoreous, even though we don't act like it.
Salvation is sooo simple a child can grasp it, but adults make it complicated.
God made it easy so All people could partake of it. I'm far from the smartest person here, but living near ms, I have met some people, in food banks, and jails, that are very simple minded folks. Some cannot read or write, but I've got to see some of them come to Christ. It is an amazing thing to see.
One of those ladies told me about being in the hospital, it was the first time she had seen a doctor, even though she was near 50 yo. She was in alot of pain, doubled over in the floor next to her hospital bed. Doctors were running test, and told her mom something was bad wrong, and they didn't know if she would live. The woman told me, she thought she was dying, and could only remember how one of us told her, if you ever need help you can call on Jesus anytime. She called on Jesus there in the floor. She immediately felt better, and got up and unplugged herself and walked out. She then confessed that she and her husband drank beer everyday, and fought and cursed each other alot. She said ever since that day, she had not drank any beer, and quite cursing her husband. She said he still drank though :)
See she got saved "born again " saved :)
I watched a well meaning preacher do everyy
Thing BUT slap.a sinners prayer out of this woman only a few weeks prior to this, and it done my heart good, to see she really did get saved after all of that mess.
Uh huh.

Yeah sounds like a soap opera.

I have met people that were "born" again" "saved". The look in their eyes can only be described as "lights on, nobody home". They have also been some of the most troublesome annoying people I have ever met. They lie, they cause conflict with family members, they are pompous and self righteous, and these are some of their better qualities.

Since: Jun 08

Atrisco Village

#297014 May 20, 2013
AyakaNeo wrote:
<quoted text>Were you posting from church?
That's cheesy, by any standard.
rosesz

Fort Lauderdale, FL

#297015 May 20, 2013
elise in burque wrote:
<quoted text>Razzmatazz posts under several screen names, so she thinks everyone is like her. In other words, she's nuts.
Oh yes I figured that out first week back. But cannot figure out why a stranger would come on here and pick my name to post under. Lol have not been on here for at least 2 years probably more..was I famous lol.
Oh well she can believe what she pleases.

Ugh thundering here I hate rainy season..

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