Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision

Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision

There are 313385 comments on the Newsday story from Jan 22, 2008, titled Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision. In it, Newsday reports that:

Thousands of abortion opponents marched from the National Mall to the Supreme Court on Tuesday in their annual remembrance of the court's Roe v. Wade decision.

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Katie

Tacoma, WA

#295882 May 13, 2013
http://www.topix.com/forum/news/abortion/T833...
rose's response to my post w/ link she says she didn't see.

http://www.topix.com/forum/news/abortion/T833...
offered this morning to rose for rose.
rosesz

Pompano Beach, FL

#295883 May 13, 2013
cpeter1313 wrote:
I was in a coma for 8 days. They got no reaction to stimulus until that 8th day even though they stopped the ketamine a day before. It wasn't until I was already waking up that some moron did a sternum rub; evidently my response was not at all kind. But while comatose, I didn't feel a bloody thing. The neural system may register stimulus, but you can't feel pain without consciousness.
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Well ketamine might account for that..But I have seen them on comatose..the patients may not know they feel it but they react or sometimes they don't.
And I can imagine the sternal rub would not elicit a pleasant response if the ketamine wore off..or if you came more aware. A LOT..

Thing is the spin is there..a person may not remember..but you don't react if don't feel.

I may be mistaken on ketamine but it kind of paralyzed you..that would be akin to a local where you don't feel..but just unconscious..no paralytic..you feel if you respond. If not something is really wrong..is why they do the test...to see how deep the coma is

I am surprised you were on ketamine for 8 days but maybe it was to PREVENT some pain in your coma..trauma??? Burn.

They do try to keep coma patients from suffering..
One reason for paralytic DURING SURGERY. while under anesthetic is they want to control breathing and don't WANT reaction to pain.

And sorry sorry for your ordeal
worships reality

United States

#295884 May 13, 2013
cpeter1313 wrote:
He is innocent of the murder unless you have incontrovertible proof that he did it. You have nothing but suspicions. That isnt proof of malfeasance, idiot.
<quoted text>
he was not found innocent. he was found not guilty.

and that is not what I asked you, idiot. let's try this again...
can you say definitively that he did nothing illegal based on the "not guilty" verdict?
rosesz

Pompano Beach, FL

#295885 May 13, 2013
CPTER

O k not exactly a paralytic. But if you were on it for 8 days..they wanted you out and not registering pain for sure
IF THAT WAS THE CASE..had they not given it to you..unconscious or not you would have felt probably a whole lot of pain.
rosesz

Pompano Beach, FL

#295886 May 13, 2013
Katie wrote:
<quoted text>
What do you mean you "can't find that info"??
I supplied you with a link to sptimes this morning. That link includes a link to findlaw. Both of these sites have archived all the Terri Schiavo information. And of oourse, the findlaw site has the legal documents included. In those documents you will find out how she was treated upon her initial hospitalization.
There had been a document from that hospital out and about back in the day which may also be included in the legal documents.
I am completely flabbergasted I've offered you links twice and both times you claim not to've seen them. Am I to believe these posts didn't post?
Katie.

Please calm down I just went back 7 hours and found the link.
BEEN going on and off most of the day AND DID NOT SEE IT..

Will read I PROMISE..I would not have asked if I didn't want to see it!!
rosesz

Pompano Beach, FL

#295887 May 13, 2013
Katie wrote:
http://www.topix.com/forum/new s/abortion/T833PCEP80MM49OU9/p 13901#c295715
rose's response to my post w/ link she says she didn't see.
http://www.topix.com/forum/news/abortion/T833...
offered this morning to rose for rose.
Should have read down saved me some time.

I MISSED IT..SORRY. I wiLL READ IT..BEEN Looking for it.
NOT CRAZY yet to specifically ASK for something I DON'T WANT TO SEE.

I really wanted to know about early care..If this helps I thank you..
Katie

Tacoma, WA

#295889 May 13, 2013
rosesz wrote:
<quoted text>
Katie.
Please calm down I just went back 7 hours and found the link.
BEEN going on and off most of the day AND DID NOT SEE IT..
Will read I PROMISE..I would not have asked if I didn't want to see it!!
"Calm down"??

This would not be the first time posts did not show up.

It hurts nothing to be sure posts are showing up. Especially those that don't break TOS.

Since: Jun 08

Location hidden

#295891 May 13, 2013
cpeter1313 wrote:
It's the uncertainty of death and loss, I think. I heard one person, at the funeral of their mother, ask how they could go on without her? What choice did they have?
<quoted text>
Yes, I understand this, of course. However, as an advocate for the patient, I must be more concerned with the wasting body and skin of my charge than the angst of the family.
rosesz

Pompano Beach, FL

#295892 May 13, 2013
Katie wrote:
<quoted text>
"Calm down"??
This would not be the first time posts did not show up.
It hurts nothing to be sure posts are showing up. Especially those that don't break TOS.
Exactly..and I appreciate the effort..but you said you were flabbergasted..I was not ignoring you really.

Ok I have read the best on on there about the early years.
My latest posts have been about that period before the controversy.

He obviously tried to get a better result. I said I had learned a lot.

He did get 300 for himself. Along with the 700 thou for her care.

BUT my main question is still the same. SHE was with no oxygen for 5 minutes..the brain does not recover if it was that long.
BEFORE all the controversy..in the hospital..not hospice.

DID she have a DNR. DID she code. What lifeSAVING,procedures were done during that time that should maybe NOT have been..If this was her wishes not to have heroics..I'm not saying he was wrong to try to save her..But maybe they should..If that was her wish given her only palliative care. AT the beginning..before the lawsuit..etc..Maybe she would have quietly passed earlier..those questions ..well we don't know about the day to day in that hospital..they are medical records so we probably won't..and nothing was in dispute at the time..so they very well may have used heroics since at the time BOTH sides were trying to SAVE her....

As I said I have learned a lot from this thread.. and very sad story

“Truly Pro-Life”

Since: Nov 11

Proudly Pro-choice

#295893 May 13, 2013
rosesz wrote:
<quoted text>
Btw way it can be as simple as s person calling out yo God on his deathbed..Or s life in which salvation hopefully shines through with good works..Buy it is the FAITH that saved..NOT THE WORKS..
SOME RELIGIONS teach it differently....but this is how most Christians believe. THE RCC teaches it a bit differently but basically the same message. NO SIN IS TOO GREAT!!!
So contradictory, from one worshiper to another...one says 'faith without works is dead', and one says 'works don't matter it's the faith that counts', and one says you WILL go to hell for (insert 'whatever it is that person disapproves of' here _______), and one says God forgave Hitler, Stalin, Mengele, Idi Amin, if they but asked Him to, and one says the first half of the Bible is what's important, while another says the second half pretty much replaces the first one, and one says 'predestination' and one says 'all souls have a shot at Heaven'....it just goes on...and on....and on....

I'll keep my own beliefs, thanks...seems to be working for each of you....

“Truly Pro-Life”

Since: Nov 11

Proudly Pro-choice

#295894 May 13, 2013
Gtown71 wrote:
<quoted text>
So you truly believe people AND animals have a soul???
I believe if there are souls at all, that every breathing creature, whether animal or vegetable, has one...and that it may be possible that the earth itself has one too.
Gtown71 wrote:
<quoted text>
Yet pitbulls that kill other animals go to the same doggy heaven as the little cute house pups?
Please don't tell me you think 'cute little pitbull pups' are born to become ravening beasts. I've raised several pits - if they are raised with love, and not rewarded for aggressive behavior (or killed for not exhibiting same) they are some of the best dogs ever bred. Any dog trained to fight, will fight - pits just happen to be really smart, and learn quickly.

If there is an afterlife, and heaven exists, my dogs are more likely to be there than I am... because they know more about the creator than we ever will.
Gtown71 wrote:
<quoted text>
Hitler, and many other evil men go to the same place as folks who never harmed a fly?
Ask Rose - she's a Christian, and she says all they had to do was ask for forgiveness, and they get a condo in the same heaven as Albert Schwietzer and Jonas Salk.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#295895 May 13, 2013
They induced in order to put me on a respirator; by the time I got to the hospital, I was nearly dead.

A comatose person may react to stimulus but that's not the same as pain. The thing is that I have distinct memories--dreams--but had no concept of an outside world. They did tests but there was no physical response to anything. I obviously don't remember, but my ex, who acted as my guardian, is a CNA and watched whatever they did.

The coma wasn't really an ordeal--at least, not to me. The hardest part was having to relearn things like typing that I lost due to damage caused during the process.
rosesz wrote:
<quoted text>
Well ketamine might account for that..But I have seen them on comatose..the patients may not know they feel it but they react or sometimes they don't.
And I can imagine the sternal rub would not elicit a pleasant response if the ketamine wore off..or if you came more aware. A LOT..
Thing is the spin is there..a person may not remember..but you don't react if don't feel.
I may be mistaken on ketamine but it kind of paralyzed you..that would be akin to a local where you don't feel..but just unconscious..no paralytic..you feel if you respond. If not something is really wrong..is why they do the test...to see how deep the coma is
I am surprised you were on ketamine for 8 days but maybe it was to PREVENT some pain in your coma..trauma??? Burn.
They do try to keep coma patients from suffering..
One reason for paralytic DURING SURGERY. while under anesthetic is they want to control breathing and don't WANT reaction to pain.
And sorry sorry for your ordeal

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#295896 May 13, 2013
Yes, because you can't prove he did anything to the contrary.
worships reality wrote:
<quoted text>
he was not found innocent. he was found not guilty.
and that is not what I asked you, idiot. let's try this again...
can you say definitively that he did nothing illegal based on the "not guilty" verdict?

“Truly Pro-Life”

Since: Nov 11

Proudly Pro-choice

#295897 May 13, 2013
razzmatazz wrote:
Three guilty verdicts! First degree murder, Gosnell is GUILTY
Three guilty verdicts, and one acquittal. And 246 counts left to try him on.

Get it right.

:)
Gtown71

United States

#295898 May 13, 2013
elise in burque wrote:
<quoted text>No, I said no such thing. I said that you, specifically and singularly, have an aversion to education. You are a blatant liar.
Well atleast you thought enough to post :)

I also didn't single you out, I said "they" -you know "them" who say really stupid stuff, like if you allow someone to starve to death, it is a beautiful, peaceful way to die, or even better, if you remove a persons feeding tube they don't starve to death???

Any impute nurse elise?

There are two extreme views on this topic, both think they are right, you should question if you are.
rosesz

Pompano Beach, FL

#295899 May 13, 2013
not a playa1965 wrote:
<quoted text>So contradictory, from one worshiper to another...one says 'faith without works is dead', and one says 'works don't matter it's the faith that counts', and one says you WILL go to hell for (insert 'whatever it is that person disapproves of' here _______), and one says God forgave Hitler, Stalin, Mengele, Idi Amin, if they but asked Him to, and one says the first half of the Bible is what's important, while another says the second half pretty much replaces the first one, and one says 'predestination' and one says 'all souls have a shot at Heaven'....it just goes on...and on....and on....
I'll keep my own beliefs, thanks...seems to be working for each of you....
Agreed it is confusing..maybe try reading both testament??

About faith..it is necessary. Comes thru grace which is a gift.
The call or seeds of faith can come from anywhere..makes you want to know more..a tv show..a baby's smile..a post on a forum

With faith comes salvation..With salvation comes works..THE works can lead to rewards in heaven or here..knowing you have done a good thing..
Things like that.

But works will not get you saved in and of themselves..hope that helped with some of the confusion:)
Gtown71

United States

#295900 May 13, 2013
razzmatazz wrote:
Three guilty verdicts! First degree murder, Gosnell is GUILTY
So is ever other abortionist, and every single person on here who is for abortion, their trial date is set for the future, My prayer is they find a great "GO BETWEEN" BEFORE their trial date.

Also, had a woman not died they would love gosnell. Sick.
rosesz

Pompano Beach, FL

#295901 May 13, 2013
not a playa1965 wrote:
<quoted text>I believe if there are souls at all, that every breathing creature, whether animal or vegetable, has one...and that it may be possible that the earth itself has one too.
<quoted text>Please don't tell me you think 'cute little pitbull pups' are born to become ravening beasts. I've raised several pits - if they are raised with love, and not rewarded for aggressive behavior (or killed for not exhibiting same) they are some of the best dogs ever bred. Any dog trained to fight, will fight - pits just happen to be really smart, a0nd learn quickly.
If there is an afterlife, and heaven exists, my dogs are more likely to be there than I am... because they know more about the creator than we ever will.
<quoted text>Ask Rose - she's a Christian, and she says all they had to do was ask for forgiveness, and they get a condo in the same heaven as Albert Schwietzer and Jonas Salk.
WELL not exactly. There is No sin to great for God to forgive..But it is the heart and soul that lead one to ask. To turn to God..To Jesus.
In some people their hearts are so hardened they could never have a,SINCERE act of faith..this is why I disagree with poster who said it could be AFTER DEATH.. not if they knew anything in this life.
HITLER knew enough that he had bibles changed to NOT reflect that Jesus was a Jew!!! MADE his own religion..Took God's place.no old testament...etc. So on him or his like..I really doubt he was capable of a true act if Faith.
Now,we are told there are rewards in heaven..a lot if that based on how,we have lived.. some will be higher than others.
MANY mansions..WE ARE JUDGED for sure.
CATHOLICS believe in purgatory purgatory for punishment before heaven.
Personally ..while no one can be sure..I believe that the sacrifice on the Cross paid the sidebar in full.
But we have to sincerely turn to God. Hopefully before our deathbed. IT CAN be as simple as that BUT one would have to be inclined to even want Him at death..imo
And I personally would not take the chance that I might be unable to at death..
Oh a really good book...well 2 by Randy Alcorn..but the short one is
In light of eternity..the other is heaven.
HE takes things from scriptures scriptures and gives us an idea of what it Might be like..but also since we only have a,few senses here it's hard to imagine
Now he definitely thinks that since heaven is the place we were made for..and creation wad for the US we were supposed to be..we will have great food..music..and yes animals we can love..He created all of it.
:)

“Truly Pro-Life”

Since: Nov 11

Proudly Pro-choice

#295902 May 13, 2013
rosesz wrote:
<quoted text>
Agreed it is confusing..maybe try reading both testament??
About faith..it is necessary. Comes thru grace which is a gift.
The call or seeds of faith can come from anywhere..makes you want to know more..a tv show..a baby's smile..a post on a forum
With faith comes salvation..With salvation comes works..THE works can lead to rewards in heaven or here..knowing you have done a good thing..
Things like that.
But works will not get you saved in and of themselves..hope that helped with some of the confusion:)
I've read the Bible cover to cover 6 times, and got more confused with each perusal. Having found no answers, only contradictions, which led to more questions, which the 6th perusal did nothing to alleviate, I resolved to stop wasting weeks of my time reading it for a 7th.

It's good literature, but as a means to induce 'the fear of God' it hasn't got a patch on Stephen King, or Mary Shelley.

I think I'll just keep living my life the best way I know how, and doing my best to assure that my little corner of the world is a more pleasant and happier place when I leave, than when I arrived.

That's what works for me.
:)
razzmatazz

Falls City, NE

#295903 May 13, 2013
not a playa1965 wrote:
<quoted text>Three guilty verdicts, and one acquittal. And 246 counts left to try him on.
Get it right.
:)
He was guilty of three counts of first degree murder. he was found guilty on 233 . He won't leave prison alive. Justice was served.

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