Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision

Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision

There are 311926 comments on the Newsday story from Jan 22, 2008, titled Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision. In it, Newsday reports that:

Thousands of abortion opponents marched from the National Mall to the Supreme Court on Tuesday in their annual remembrance of the court's Roe v. Wade decision.

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rosesz

Dublin, Ireland

#295727 May 12, 2013
cpeter1313 wrote:
The original settlement portion went to him regardless of medical status; the majority of it went to her care as well. The settlement ran out long before he tried to put her to rest.
She was a little big to incubate...I think you meant "intubate." (damn madame kindle...) She had a feeding tube. She had no consciousness; she could not suffer.
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Well even with minimal brain activity..she can react to discomfort and pain..And . Yes intubate.(Sigh)

Read my other post to Katie I think.

If this was her wish and if she was really in danger maybe at the beginning they should have ended the heroics. She would have lived or died..sounds like died without surgeries Tec long before the mess.
AND BEFORE the lawsuit..Maybe..IMHO

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#295728 May 12, 2013
Rose--I edited out the 1st sentence when I saw it wasn't gtown. Don't know why it latched back on....
cpeter1313 wrote:
I'm really tired of educating you for free.
Brain death affects the upper brain--consciousness, thought, etc. What you are referring to are autonomic responses, ruled by the medula. The upper brain can be dead without stopping the medulla from functioning. Breathing, circulation, digestion, etc, are not upper-brain functions.
All settlement money he received went to her care. The accounting was done years ago.
Keeping her body going wasn't letting her live; it was denial of reality.
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Bit-O-Honey

Mooresville, NC

#295729 May 12, 2013
Gtown71 wrote:
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Follow the money on this one.
That leads to the parents who whored her out for their OWN paychecks.
Not truly sure if any truly cared for her, but if they breath on their own, have their own heart beat, and only need feeding, it is murder.
Whether you like it or not.
No Oh Stupid One. It is not. In our country, we have a right to refuse medcial treatment (ANH in Terri's case - surgically implanted and machine maintained) and be allowed to die naturally. It is not murder.

Much as you would LIKE it to be, fortunately for the rest of us, your delusions are NOT reality.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#295730 May 12, 2013
That's what couples do, they often talk about things they won't with others. Many younger people don't mention such things at all except in passing after a situation comes up in the news or in the media.

HE was her guardian and had primary kinship. That's what civil marriage includes. And they were a pain in his side after years of litigation. They probably did love her; love isn't all there is in such situations.
Gtown71 wrote:
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I don't think this deal was easy on anyone involved, and notice the only ones that heard her say she didn't want to be on ls, was hubby?
You act like his "in laws " were just a pain in his side. THEY WERE HER MOM AND DAD..
DID IT EVER ACCURE TO YOU THAT PERHAPS THEY LOVED HER,??? PROB NOT!

Since: Dec 09

Location hidden

#295731 May 12, 2013
Gtown71 wrote:
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I must just say I strongly disagree with you, and maybe it was about 13 days, but either way she was breathing on her own. Heart beating on its own. They removed feeding tube, and she starved to death, but HAPPY MOTHERS DAY MOM :)
you're my new mommy on topix :)
She died from dehydration not starvation.

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#295732 May 12, 2013
rosesz wrote:
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RAZZ. I AM ROSE. REALLY..
WHY would I use the name..Who cares.
Anyway they are sincere in trying to help women. I think it's wrong but this is a forum.
As for the typing. I TRY VERY HARD. But lol. Have you read some of my posts. But thanks for seeing an improvement
GOD BLESS and hope you have a good Mothers Day
Rose, the Knut is going to spout her nonsense no matter what you say, you dont have to prove anything to anyone, CERTAINLY not to the likes of her.

None of us think you're anyone but who you are - Rose AKA Madame Kindle <<<grin>>>. Let the Knut ramble and dont let it bother you. She only makes a fool of herself with that garbage.
Gtown71

United States

#295733 May 12, 2013
rosesz wrote:
And before anyone squeaks. I believe strongly in prayer. Maybe our prayers should be not fir chaos but for the changing of hearts and minds.
GOD can do anything. HE has given us free will.We live in This world as it is.
I like your idea, think I'll go that route a while :)

As you say peace.
Gtown71

United States

#295734 May 12, 2013
AyakaNeo wrote:
<quoted text>She died from dehydration not starvation.
Good, I feel better now. Instead of starving to death, she thirst to death.

Implanting Roses idea now!
As she says peace :)
rosesz

Pompano Beach, FL

#295735 May 12, 2013
cpeter1313 wrote:
I'm really tired of educating you for free.
Brain death affects the upper brain--consciousness, thought, etc. What you are referring to are autonomic responses, ruled by the medula. The upper brain can be dead without stopping the medulla from functioning. Breathing, circulation, digestion, etc, are not upper-brain functions.
All settlement money he received went to her care. The accounting was done years ago.
Keeping her body going wasn't letting her live; it was denial of reality.
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In brain death..if you take a person off life support..they USUSLLY do noy breathe.. since helping determine this was part of my job st a time when criteria were much mire stringent..we did everything ed could yo make sure they were gone. They may have had muscle spasms but no continuous movement ..we did this twice st least 24 hours apart because of possible barbituates affecting gge test. We turned the amplitude way up..2 flat lines ..meant the docs could disconnect along with other criteria. Every case We did ..they expired...if they flat lined. On the one case where it was several days he was actually auctioning our dead matter thrum his NG tube and ghd room reeked if decay. HIS BRAIN and probably other parts was liquefied..
Some cases the death is instant. Some longer but not years with brain death..

What I said was TERRY was on life support ventilation when she came in so it says.. They should have disconnected her sooner and let life take its course. She supposedly wanted this
Not years in limbo..Had this happened before all her CARE..she mist likely would have died when disconnected.. we don't know how long they kept her on it..Again supposedly against her wishes.

SORRY you feel your free education is wasted Cpterr..but I know a bit about this.

I know she had no future..but just maybe everyone involved could have decided all this YEARS before money was ar stake.
I know my typing sucks but I am actually arguing on both sides of this ..If she wanted NO HEROICS..then don t do them if she is critical. THRY knew her prognosis early on if she was that bad.

My only point is that starvation is a Bsd way to go and from all accounts this evoke mess could have Bern avoiddd

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#295736 May 12, 2013
Gtown71 wrote:
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Yes, you're correct about leaving your parents and the two becomming one flesh, but why did he also push sooo hard to have her feeding tube removed?
Becasue she was BRAIN DEAD you idiot. Autonomic function ONLY. NORMAL people dont try to keep a brain dead person alive for 15 years as her parents tried to do.
He prob did love her, but he had moved on with another woman.
Oh horseshit. If he had "moved on", he WOULD have moved on and to hell with her.

Instead, he fought to follow through with what he KNEW her wishes to be, DESPITE those that would expolit her for their own purposes.
Her parents loved her, and wanted what they could get.
Sorry, but they wanted what they could get alright - MONEY wise. You DO know they were taken to court because they snuck a camera into her room - AGAINST A COURT ORDER - and then sold the video and pictures for hundreds of dollars to any pervert that wanted them, right? Among other perversions they committed for money.
Not to mention what he choose to do with her remains, which was as well against her parents wishes.
Fk their wishes. It wasn't ABOUT their wishes. Their wishes after all the crap they pulled weren't worth anything.
The guy had more of a motive, then carring out his dead wifes wishes.
Really? You know this HOW? You dont even know the BASICS of this case. So what were his motives Mr Know it all?
Many hubbies want their wife dead, before they move on.
Really? You say this from experience huh? You wanted your wife dead before you screwed around on her?
She may have been braindead, but we have homes filled with these type of folks, but they still get fed.
I defy you to show us ONE SINGLE "homes filled with these type of folks".

Oh wait, you can't, because no such places exist.

You moron.
Most the info I have, is from a sermon I heard Dr. Phil Kidd from ms preach..
Balance of your bullshit deleted, since you just admitted you dont know shit. Idiot.

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#295737 May 12, 2013
Gtown71 wrote:
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Perhaps you can educate me on what took place?
Why? So you can ignore it?

You are a DELIBERATE idiot.
rosesz

Pompano Beach, FL

#295738 May 12, 2013
THERE WSS A MOTBID saying among mostly the RSSPIRATORY TECHS. but had.. a lot of agreement..

THEY WOULD TATOO...Do not intubate on their necks. In big letters

BACK THEN once the tube went jn
..you had to jump a whole lot if hoops to take it out!!!!!! The 2 e e gs were part of it

DNRs were kind if unstated ..but done unofficially...

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#295739 May 12, 2013
Gtown71 wrote:
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Yes it happens, so do rape and incest cases, but if abortion was only for those three, the clinics would only run 1 month out of the year, tops. More like 2 weeks :(
Rare.
Rare is when you say something with some basis in fact.

DO you have ANY clue how many women are raped yearly? ANY idea at all? Try TENS OF THOUSANDS! And that's REPORTED rapes. Over half of all rapes are NOT reported.

Did you know that 5% of those rapes will result in pregnancy? And half of those or more will be aborted.

Two weeks? You're a bigger ass than I thought.

Its morons like you that spread such terrible mis-information, that its actually DANGEROUS to women.

You SHOULD be ashamed, but you dont have the intelligence OR class. Its truly frightening that you're raising a girl. I pray your wife is a WHOLE lot smarter than you are. But I have my doubts, given she stays with you.

Since: Dec 09

Location hidden

#295740 May 12, 2013
feces for jesus wrote:
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Hardly. AOL is my homepage and cpeter's mug and the accompanying story was front and center as soon as you log on.
The fact that you would automatically assume googling molesting peacocks says more about you. IMO.
Your opinion on the other hand, ain't worth shit.
So you're linking Cpeter to charges of indecent solicitation of a child on a public forum? I feel pretty good about my opinion not being worth shit in comparison to your stupidity.
rosesz

Pompano Beach, FL

#295741 May 12, 2013
LiIrabbitfoofoo wrote:
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Rose, the Knut is going to spout her nonsense no matter what you say, you dont have to prove anything to anyone, CERTAINLY not to the likes of her.
None of us think you're anyone but who you are - Rose AKA Madame Kindle <<<grin>>>. Let the Knut ramble and dont let it bother you. She only makes a fool of herself with that garbage.
I honestly think she dies not comprehend what is said sometimes..Seriuisly. Takes one sentence and goes on..

Oh well I tried for the last two days..
Could be me.. I do go kn and people sometimes tong get my full meaning..but with her I have been clear as I can.
Did you have a good moms day

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#295742 May 12, 2013
Gtown71 wrote:
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I must just say I strongly disagree with you, and maybe it was about 13 days, but either way she was breathing on her own. Heart beating on its own. They removed feeding tube, and she starved to death,
SOrry idiot, you are simply WRONG. People dont starve to death is 13 days. Doesn't happen. You can disagree all you want, but you're still dead wrong.
you're my new mommy on topix :)
That is disgusting on SO many different levels I dont even know where to start. Seriously.

No child of mine would be as deliberately and willfully ignorant as you are determined to make yourself appear. You would make a perfect posterchild for retroactive abortion.

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#295743 May 12, 2013
cpeter1313 wrote:
The schiavo case was very much like my father's. It took two days for my father's body to stop functioning on its own. Fortunately, his family wasn't interfering in the process.
Terri was NOT coming back, no matter how much her insane family said she was. They interfered in his right to guardianship for years. Yes, he tried to move on, because his wife was dead in very meaningful way. Eventually, her family had to be banned from the hospital; her siblings tied to feed her orally. If you think starvation is a nasty way to go, look up death by aspiration. However, there was no suffering; terri's upper brain function was nil. The autopsy showed her brain had shrunk to a third of its original size, a process that takes years. She was dead long before her body stopped. There was no murder.
Pretty much every medical procedure is godless; it's a scientific process, not a religious one.
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Exactly Cpeter!

A couple years ago, my mom, who had been on ANH, started to refuse her insulin. In 4 days, she would occasionally look around - respond to pain reflexes - but nobody was home and that was very clear. We had the ANH removed that day, and it took her body 14 days to shut down. She did NOT starve to death, and it was a surprisingly peaceful process. No murder, just dying naturally.

The way these idiots talk, they act like its something bad, something to fear. While it wasn't the ideal way to go, it was worse on those of us waiting with her than it was for her.

To MOST people, the something to fear would be to be hooked up to machines the way Terri Schiavo was.

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#295744 May 12, 2013
Gtown71 wrote:
<quoted text> Has any other came out of acoma after being told they wouldn't ?
She wasn't IN a coma you dumbass. Seriously, you should REALLY shut up when you dont have a damn clue what you're babbling about.

Since: Dec 09

Location hidden

#295745 May 12, 2013
cpeter1313 wrote:
What is it your jesus said? When you marry, you leave your parents and cleave to your spouse? Legal marriag spells it out--the spouse becomes the primary kin and makes medical decisions when they cannot. Her parents were delusional concerning her condition.
Medically speaking, there is no difference between a respirator and a feeding tube--both are extraordinary measures for prolonging ife. When a dx of brain death (or PVS) is made, the guardian has every right to remove such measures.
You have no idea what he was thinking; you make assumptions based on your distaste for the situation. Having been through it, I can tell you it's not what you seem to think. Keep in mind that she would have slipped away YEARS earlier without the parents' legal maneuvering without ANY positive change in her condition.
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My oldest sister died in 2007. She was 51, on a vent, organs failing one by one and unconscious. She got a C diff infection on top of everything and the medications she was being given were not being metabolized because of the C diff so she was dying, just very slowly. Her daughter decided to take her off the vent which was fine, everyone else agreed it was best. Killed me to see my mother crying like that ya know? Took about 10 minutes and she just stopped breathing. It's a beautiful death.

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#295746 May 12, 2013
Gtown71 wrote:
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Yes, I've seen a man dye that way, and it is horrible.
You are 100% LYING. I've seen it more than once, with my mother and with my grandfather 20 years ago. Its not horrible, its extremely peaceful.
His wife and daughter were feeding him jello, even though the sign on his bed said NO FOOD.
Then they were not only stupid, they were murderers.

But you're lying about that as well. There's not a hospital in the world that would allow that for someone that's NPO.
But cpeter -what's the difference in just not feeding those in the nursing homes, who don't even know their own names?
They're not brain dead for one thing.

Do you EVER stupid being a MORON?

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