Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision

Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision

There are 311496 comments on the Newsday story from Jan 22, 2008, titled Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision. In it, Newsday reports that:

Thousands of abortion opponents marched from the National Mall to the Supreme Court on Tuesday in their annual remembrance of the court's Roe v. Wade decision.

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Katie

Tacoma, WA

#295680 May 12, 2013
Gtown71 wrote:
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I'm sorry, but I was under the impression, that when a persons heart beat on it's own, and they breathed on their own, and all YOUR job was, was to feed them, and you stopped feeding them, they starved to death?
How many do you know in nursing homes that don't even know they are there, yet they are fed and cared for?
Plus her own mother and father wanted her alive, hubby had moved on, so why not give her back to her parents, or do you feel when YOU think it is time to pull the plug on folks, it should be done?
She lived untill they stopped feeding her, then layed there till she died many days later??? Perhaps you can educate me on what took place?
Slippery slope. That guy didn't care one bit, and even had her creamated, if I remember right AGAINST her parents will.
I pray you never have that kind of son in law.
Cpeter seems to think the parents were the problem, could it be they loved their little girl?
Has any other came out of acoma after being told they wouldn't ?
Educate yourself on the legalities you would have to ignore in order to see your wishes come true.

Give her back to her parents? Was she a little plastic dolly??

Terri Schiavo's husband loved her. Loved her through and through, even after her brain liquefied. He fought hardest for her wishes to be carried out. Her wishes, as an adult married woman. He showed respect to her even as the spark that made Terri, Terri, had dimmed.

Her parents made her a paycheck.

But, then, the Schindlers had a lot of help from the PLM. The same PLM, the very same people (Father Pavone and Randall Terry), who offered enough money to NM (Roe) who chose to leave her lover when her lover needed her most.

What kind of organization, proclaiming to be Christian no less, does that?! And why would you so willingly believe their blatant deceit?

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#295681 May 12, 2013
Because they aren't brain-dead. There's a medical definition of brain-death/irreversible coma/PVS that doesn't apply to dementia. Not to mention that most patients with demenia feed themselves, with or without assistance.
Gtown71 wrote:
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Yes, I've seen a man dye that way, and it is horrible. His wife and daughter were feeding him jello, even though the sign on his bed said NO FOOD.
But cpeter -what's the difference in just not feeding those in the nursing homes, who don't even know their own names?
rosesz

Pompano Beach, FL

#295682 May 12, 2013
razzmatazz wrote:
<quoted text>Sincere? These people promote the slaughter of the unborn. A demonic act. Eww , you are either Ladi or pupc. Rosessz didn't type as well as you do.
RAZZ. I AM ROSE. REALLY..
WHY would I use the name..Who cares.

Anyway they are sincere in trying to help women. I think it's wrong but this is a forum.

As for the typing. I TRY VERY HARD. But lol. Have you read some of my posts. But thanks for seeing an improvement

GOD BLESS and hope you have a good Mothers Day
Gtown71

United States

#295683 May 12, 2013
cpeter1313 wrote:
Because they aren't brain-dead. There's a medical definition of brain-death/irreversible coma/PVS that doesn't apply to dementia. Not to mention that most patients with demenia feed themselves, with or without assistance.
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Yes, you're correct about leaving your parents and the two becomming one flesh, but why did he also push sooo hard to have her feeding tube removed? He prob did love her, but he had moved on with another woman. Her parents loved her, and wanted what they could get. Not to mention what he choose to do with her remains, which was as well against her parents wishes.

The guy had more of a motive, then carring out his dead wifes wishes.

Many hubbies want their wife dead, before they move on.

True, I don't know his motives "heart", but again her heart was beating on its own, she breathed on her own. She may have been braindead, but we have homes filled with these type of folks, but they still get fed.

Most the info I have, is from a sermon I heard Dr. Phil Kidd from ms preach. He can be found on the net, and yes he is a very contraversal preacher. I believe this was one, in his "Angels of Death " cd.

You should read how he got saved.

I know it cannot be an easy decision to pull the plug, but I will inverstigate it another way. Something don't add up.

I think had she been black, and he white, the.naacp, jessie jack, al not so sharpton, and others would have been all over that thing. Also found in Kidds cd :) if you're interested. You've never heard any preacher like this guy.
He has an awsome testimony.
Gtown71

United States

#295684 May 12, 2013
Katie wrote:
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Educate yourself on the legalities you would have to ignore in order to see your wishes come true.
Give her back to her parents? Was she a little plastic dolly??
Terri Schiavo's husband loved her. Loved her through and through, even after her brain liquefied. He fought hardest for her wishes to be carried out. Her wishes, as an adult married woman. He showed respect to her even as the spark that made Terri, Terri, had dimmed.
Her parents made her a paycheck.
But, then, the Schindlers had a lot of help from the PLM. The same PLM, the very same people (Father Pavone and Randall Terry), who offered enough money to NM (Roe) who chose to leave her lover when her lover needed her most.
What kind of organization, proclaiming to be Christian no less, does that?! And why would you so willingly believe their blatant deceit?
Well, it seems it's a toss up. From the websight I read terries hubby, was a jerk from day one, wanting her to die, and he may have been the reason she was in her condition becouse he choked her almost to death??

She had eating disorder, becouse he told her he would divorce her, if she got fat.

He had All help and rehab stopped.
He clearly wanted her dead long before. She even went 6 days of starvation and dyhrdration, before gov. Bush ordered tube put back in.

Her family wanted her alive, her hubby wanted her dead.

Lots and lots of money to be made.

I see this case no different then that of abortion, you either respect human life or you do not.

Many want to "play" a God, they don't even believe in.
This is far worse then assisted suicide, it was a clear case of first degree murder, and will one day be judged as such.

Perhaps not on earth, but the Highest of courts.
Gtown71

United States

#295685 May 12, 2013
cpeter1313 wrote:
Because they aren't brain-dead. There's a medical definition of brain-death/irreversible coma/PVS that doesn't apply to dementia. Not to mention that most patients with demenia feed themselves, with or without assistance.
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After living ON HER OWN POWER for many years, only needing to be feed, kinda like babies, and many many many others, she was put in hospice -why?

Folks don't get put into hospice unless doc feels they have less then 6 months in most cases.

Her hubby stopped all help, and wanted her dead. It seems both sides have came out ok, with book deals.
I still feel it is like abortion.

You have respect for human life, or you don't.
rosesz

Pompano Beach, FL

#295686 May 12, 2013
cpeter1313 wrote:
Because they aren't brain-dead. There's a medical definition of brain-death/irreversible coma/PVS that doesn't apply to dementia. Not to mention that most patients with demenia feed themselves, with or without assistance.
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If she was truly brain dead..she would have been on a ventilator some point. No question as she wouldn't have the function to breathe.
The thing is..if she,was so damaged she probably had been on one..at first..And taken off. IF THAT WAS THE CASE..sounds like she was breathing on her own..so still had some brain function.

I am all for no heroics..But starving to death for a week..sounds cruel to me.

Don't know what the financials were..Think there was money involved for him..some settlement rings a bell...And he had to use it for her while she lived.(not sure on this at all)

Anyway..if it was not for monetary reasons..he could have just divorced her in order to move on and make a deal parents or organizations for life would pay for her care..he could then have gotten married.

In other words wash his hands of her and any money if there was some.
And leave it to those who.wanted her to live.

Just a thought
Bit-O-Honey

Mooresville, NC

#295687 May 12, 2013
feces for jesus wrote:
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Hardly. AOL is my homepage and cpeter's mug and the accompanying story was front and center as soon as you log on.
Funny, I have AOL and it wasn't on my "front and center" news page. You're just lying again.
Your opinion on the other hand, ain't worth shit.
LOL It means a HELL of a lot more than YOURS.
Bit-O-Honey

Mooresville, NC

#295688 May 12, 2013
elise in burque wrote:
<quoted text>Gtown71 appears to have a strong aversion to education.
Not to mention his strong aversion to intelligence and common sense.

I noticed he claimed his wife was "simple".

I wonder if she would be "simple" enough to be offended at being called "simple".

Of course, one would HAVE to be "simple" to put up with such stupidity as he shows.
Katie

Tacoma, WA

#295689 May 12, 2013
Gtown71 wrote:
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After living ON HER OWN POWER for many years, only needing to be feed, kinda like babies, and many many many others, she was put in hospice -why?
Folks don't get put into hospice unless doc feels they have less then 6 months in most cases.
Her hubby stopped all help, and wanted her dead. It seems both sides have came out ok, with book deals.
I still feel it is like abortion.
You have respect for human life, or you don't.
Speaking of respecting human life, isn't it disrespectful to ignore the wants of others in order to push your wants ahead of theirs? Especially when, in reality, you are a disinterested (uninvited) 3rd party?
Bit-O-Honey

Mooresville, NC

#295690 May 12, 2013
Gtown71 wrote:
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I'm sorry, but I was under the impression, that when a persons heart beat on it's own, and they breathed on their own, and all YOUR job was, was to feed them, and you stopped feeding them, they starved to death?
How many do you know in nursing homes that don't even know they are there, yet they are fed and cared for?
And now many of THEM dont have living wills, were effectively abandoned by familiy, and dont have the ability anymore to stop ANH?

Do you even KNOW what ANH is? I doubt it.
Plus her own mother and father wanted her alive, hubby had moved on, so why not give her back to her parents, or do you feel when YOU think it is time to pull the plug on folks, it should be done?
@@ "Give her back"? WTF? She wasn't an object to be passed around you IDIOT. Her husband did NOT move on, he was there for everything. She was BRAIN DEAD. What part of that do you not grasp?

She was brain dead for years BEFORE he started to move on with his life in ANY meaningful way. He knew through discussions with her that she wouldn't have wanted to be kept alive taht way, and CERTAINLY didn't want to be used as a political football by her fuckedup parents.

Who the hell are you kidding? Or are you REALLY this stupid?
She lived untill they stopped feeding her, then layed there till she died many days later??? Perhaps you can educate me on what took place?
Why? Its not like you learn anything. You ignore everything you dont want to hear, no matter HOW factual it is.

You were a drop out I'll bet.
Slippery slope.
You truly are stupid. No slippery slope. NOTHING happened to her that doesn't happen to thousands every week in this country. Its called "refusing life sustaining medical treatment".
That guy didn't care one bit,
Oh STFU you stupid thing. If he DIDNT care, he would have abandoned her, and he certainly did NOT.
and even had her creamated, if I remember right AGAINST her parents will.
It wasn't ABOUT her parents you ass. It was about HER and what SHE wanted.
I pray you never have that kind of son in law.
Funny, I pray I do have EXACTLY that kind of son-in-law. I'd rather have him that stands up for what he believes in than something like YOU, a disgusting POS. If my child ever took up with somethng like you, I'd disown them.
Cpeter seems to think the parents were the problem, could it be they loved their little girl?
More like they didn't want to lose their gravy train. They expolited her and made money from idiots like you without her permission. But I suppose THATS okay with you huh? They had to make a living too, right?
Has any other came out of acoma after being told they wouldn't ?
She wasn't IN a coma dumbass. She was brain dead.
Bit-O-Honey

Mooresville, NC

#295691 May 12, 2013
Gtown71 wrote:
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Yes, I've seen a man dye that way, and it is horrible. His wife and daughter were feeding him jello, even though the sign on his bed said NO FOOD.
You're lying. No hospital, hospice OR nursing home would allow that. They would be banned from seeing him.
But cpeter -what's the difference in just not feeding those in the nursing homes, who don't even know their own names?
You DO understand that she hadn't "eaten" in over a decade, right?

You seem to think that she was munching down on cheezeburgers and chicken and it was being held back from you. You are dumber than dirt.

I must admit its funny when you and your kind continue to mouth off when you CLEARLY have ZERO idea what the hell you're talking about.
rosesz

Pompano Beach, FL

#295692 May 12, 2013
cpeter1313 wrote:
Because they aren't brain-dead. There's a medical definition of brain-death/irreversible coma/PVS that doesn't apply to dementia. Not to mention that most patients with demenia feed themselves, with or without assistance.
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Ok my memory not totally shot. There was money involved. SOME he got and rest in trust for her care. If he divorced her ..No money..if she lived ate up the trust money. If parents took over they would be able to use trust money for her care.

And she had been incubated as I thought but then was breathing on her own..PCS.BUT not brain dead..

Hubby got some money from suit outright..Should have faded stage left..IMO.

PERSONALLY. I don't want to live on a ventilator..But she wasn't..And I am quite sure I don't want to be starved for almost 2 weeks it appears.

No good answer. And thankfully it's over
Mar 18_31

It is different from your situation.again IMO FROM what I know from my former occupation
Katie

Tacoma, WA

#295693 May 12, 2013
rosesz wrote:
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If she was truly brain dead..she would have been on a ventilator some point. No question as she wouldn't have the function to breathe.
The thing is..if she,was so damaged she probably had been on one..at first..And taken off. IF THAT WAS THE CASE..sounds like she was breathing on her own..so still had some brain function.
I am all for no heroics..But starving to death for a week..sounds cruel to me.
Don't know what the financials were..Think there was money involved for him..some settlement rings a bell...And he had to use it for her while she lived.(not sure on this at all)
Anyway..if it was not for monetary reasons..he could have just divorced her in order to move on and make a deal parents or organizations for life would pay for her care..he could then have gotten married.
In other words wash his hands of her and any money if there was some.
And leave it to those who.wanted her to live.
Just a thought
Her brain stem functioned. Her cortex liquefied, but her brain stem functioned. She aspirated her own saliva so often that her husband went to school to become a respiratory therapist. She went without oxygen almost 7 minutes, but the paramedics worked on her almost 45 minutes and brought back a heartbeat. Her husband pushed for medical miracles, but none were forthcoming. In fifteen years, she never had bedsore.

If a baby was born the same day Terri Schiavo suffered cardiac arrest, that baby would be old enough to learn to drive by the time her ALS was removed. What had Mrs. Schiavo accomplished in all those years on her own volition? And if she were so alive, why did she not get herself out of bed, walk down the hall, and get herself some food?

Really. Her husband was young and he loved her. He loved her as he battled for her rights to be upheld. He didn't treat her like a plastic dolly. He treated her like his and made sure her wishes were followed. Hers. Not her parents. Not his. Hers.
Katie

Tacoma, WA

#295694 May 12, 2013
...he treated her like his wife...

“GO BLACKHAWKS!!”

Since: Dec 07

Home of Lord Stanley!

#295695 May 12, 2013
rosesz wrote:
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RAZZ. I AM ROSE. REALLY..
WHY would I use the name..Who cares.
Anyway they are sincere in trying to help women. I think it's wrong but this is a forum.
As for the typing. I TRY VERY HARD. But lol. Have you read some of my posts. But thanks for seeing an improvement
GOD BLESS and hope you have a good Mothers Day
Rose, you don't have to explain anything. Everyone, at least those with common sense, knows you're not Ladilulu or PupC. They haven't posted on here in a while. In fact, I was with Ladilulu yesterday as she's in town visiting for the weekend.

On an interesting note, Pope Francis canonized hundreds of new saints today, including those who are Mexican. My grandfather's godfather is a Blessed so I'm awaiting word to see if he became a saint today.

I hope you, and all the other ladies on here, have a great Mother's Day.:o)

“Truly Pro-Life”

Since: Nov 11

Proudly Pro-choice

#295697 May 12, 2013
Gtown71 wrote:
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Yes it happens, so do rape and incest cases, but if abortion was only for those three, the clinics would only run 1 month out of the year, tops. More like 2 weeks :(
Rare.
In other words, you're better with the concept of abortion, if you get to decide who can and cannot have one, than with the concept of leaving that decision up to every individual woman who becomes pregnant.

Just can't have those pesky wimminfolk making their own medical and health choices...they might decide to kill off ALL your seed...

Talk about paranoid.

The great majority of women gestate, keep, and raise our children, TO THIS DAY, and abortion has been legal for 40 years...so calm down. We're not men, you know.

“GO BLACKHAWKS!!”

Since: Dec 07

Home of Lord Stanley!

#295698 May 12, 2013
Katie wrote:
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Her brain stem functioned. Her cortex liquefied, but her brain stem functioned. She aspirated her own saliva so often that her husband went to school to become a respiratory therapist. She went without oxygen almost 7 minutes, but the paramedics worked on her almost 45 minutes and brought back a heartbeat. Her husband pushed for medical miracles, but none were forthcoming. In fifteen years, she never had bedsore.
If a baby was born the same day Terri Schiavo suffered cardiac arrest, that baby would be old enough to learn to drive by the time her ALS was removed. What had Mrs. Schiavo accomplished in all those years on her own volition? And if she were so alive, why did she not get herself out of bed, walk down the hall, and get herself some food?
Really. Her husband was young and he loved her. He loved her as he battled for her rights to be upheld. He didn't treat her like a plastic dolly. He treated her like his and made sure her wishes were followed. Hers. Not her parents. Not his. Hers.
Well said. When the TS situation occurred, while Michael Schiavo was vilified, I was quite surprised to find out how much and how far he went to bat for Terri in the beginning. He totally provided her medical care, and he did an excellent job doing it, but it got to the point where he realized he, himself, could not provide the level of care she needed. I also believe it was that point when he realized that Terri, as he knew her prior to her accident, was not ever going to come back and perhaps the reason he didn't let her go when the accident occurred was based on selfish reasons because he loved her and had hope that she would regain full consciousness and make a full recovery. When he finally accepted that she was "gone", he knew she wouldn't have wanted to be kept alive like that and it was best to honor her wishes. It should be noted that all that occurred well before he was in a relationship with another woman. If he really didn't care about Terri, it would've been way easier to give her to her parents. I highly doubt he wanted her dead for monetary reasons. It's not like he was going to make out like a bandit when she passed away.

Anyways, one thing that case taught me was to create a living will and be very specific about what you'd like done in situations like that. If I was in such a situation and there was no hope for me to fully recover, I would not want to be kept alive via machine. Bring in my kinfolk, friends and dogs to say "goodbye" to me, give me my Last Rites, bring in the Mariachi's to play "El Mariachi Loco" as a send off and pull the plug.
rosesz

Pompano Beach, FL

#295699 May 12, 2013
Katie wrote:
...he treated her like his wife...
I really get that..But he did get money..probably should NOT have kept her on ventilator as long as they did. Let her die naturally..way too long to be like that. BUT possible the lawsuit was a factor.

If they can ventilator me for s very short time and expect decent results..ok. But if not let me go ..family knows..put it in writing. Too bad she didn't

As I DID say..No good answer..The length of her starvation bothers me.
rosesz

Pompano Beach, FL

#295700 May 12, 2013
-Michelle- wrote:
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Rose, you don't have to explain anything. Everyone, at least those with common sense, knows you're not Ladilulu or PupC. They haven't posted on here in a while. In fact, I was with Ladilulu yesterday as she's in town visiting for the weekend.
On an interesting note, Pope Francis canonized hundreds of new saints today, including those who are Mexican. My grandfather's godfather is a Blessed so I'm awaiting word to see if he became a saint today.
I hope you, and all the other ladies on here, have a great Mother's Day.:o)
Thanks Michele. Hope you did also..I think it's interesting and great on the blessed. WHERE does Pope John Paul's status lie. Figured he would be "fast tracked" along with Mother Theresa..if there is a fast track..

In the end its all good but the saints are far more numerous than those canonized. THEY are in heaven!!!

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